swtsig Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 So by that logic, Hines, The Novare Group, Leon Capital, JLB Patners, Midway, and Houston First (who recently started construction on a downtown office tower/hotel, yet oddly enough is run by the same guy who says now is a bad time to start contruction), are all about to lose their collective asses in the next 6 months since they have all recently started construction on large projects in a time when only a bunch of idiots on HAIF would build, you know, because of construction costs being too high. It will be sad to see all of the above companies build themselves into insolvency over the next 6 months, especially Houston First. But at least Ric Campo will still have his job with Camden when that happens. Campo has a job at Camden - one of the most succesful publicly traded development firms - because he's good at what he does. but alas, therein lies the problem with your rant... you think PRIVATELY held companies operate in the same fashion as PUBLICLY held companies. let me clue you in on something - putting together a development package catered to a select few partners allows for significantly greater risk as opposed to putting one together that meets the scrutiny of ones shareholders and the developments ability to enhance shareholder value. there's a reason why every company you listed above is PRIVATELY held. i'll go ahead and skip over the oft-repeated notion that ric campo somehow singlehandedly makes the decisions at said publically traded company, like he's some sort of CEO-totalitarian. feel free to get as frustrated as you want - hell i'm annoyed that they haven't kicked it off either - just know that your hostility towards mr. campo is largely misdirected and partially due to your general lack of knowledge. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigFootsSocks Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 Campo has a job at Camden - one of the most succesful publicly traded development firms - because he's good at what he does. but alas, therein lies the problem with your rant... you think PRIVATELY held companies operate in the same fashion as PUBLICLY held companies. let me clue you in on something - putting together a development package catered to a select few partners allows for significantly greater risk as opposed to putting one together that meets the scrutiny of ones shareholders and the developments ability to enhance shareholder value. there's a reason why every company you listed above is PRIVATELY held. i'll go ahead and skip over the oft-repeated notion that ric campo somehow singlehandedly makes the decisions at said publically traded company, like he's some sort of CEO-totalitarian.feel free to get as frustrated as you want - hell i'm annoyed that they haven't kicked it off either - just know that your hostility towards mr. campo is largely misdirected and partially due to your general lack of knowledge.I think you should have focused on the fact that he doesn't make every decision for the company. He's successful, yes, but he's a figure head for some people and that's simply not how it works.I guess it's like blaming the President for every single problem in government. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H-Town Man Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 (edited) It should be embarrassing to Camden that they've had this thing on the drawing boards since 2005 and didn't get it going during a massive boom, regardless of whether they're public or private, or how intelligent Ric Campo happens to be. I think there's also some lingering venom on here for how they screwed up the Superblock site plan and dimmed the prospects for Midtown's most important greenspace. Glad to know that you're annoyed too. Edited May 6, 2015 by H-Town Man 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoustonIsHome Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 It should be embarrassing to Camden that they've had this thing on the drawing boards since 2005 and didn't get it going during a massive boom, regardless of whether they're public or private, or how intelligent Ric Campo happens to be. I think there's also some lingering venom on here for how they screwed up the Superblock site plan and dimmed the prospects for Midtown's most important greenspace. Glad to know that you're annoyed too.This exactly^^^ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigFootsSocks Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 Any source to this or are we pulling straws still? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H-Town Man Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 Any source to this or are we pulling straws still? To what? Everything I said about the time frame and changing site plan is common knowledge on here and I don't think even the Campo defenders would dispute it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigFootsSocks Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 No, I get that, I meant the "lingering venom" part. Genuinely curious lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H-Town Man Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 Just a sense I get. The decade-long time frame is probably a bigger factor, since those who really hate the site plan (like me) want to see this project fail entirely and something different get put up. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigFootsSocks Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 Ah I see now, I haven't been following the project for this long, nor the park, so that makes sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toxtethogrady Posted May 8, 2015 Share Posted May 8, 2015 Well, people are always griping about ugly parking garages going up in Houston, but this is going up in Downtown Dallas (according to reports): Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purdueenginerd Posted May 8, 2015 Share Posted May 8, 2015 lol why even make a rendering of that? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naviguessor Posted May 8, 2015 Share Posted May 8, 2015 Every ugly building looks better in the dark. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_cuevas713 Posted May 8, 2015 Share Posted May 8, 2015 (edited) lol why even make a rendering of that?Because dallas likes to brag about everything they build, yet everything they build is not that impressive And why are all those people pictured in downtown dallas? Edited May 8, 2015 by j_cuevas713 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cspwal Posted May 8, 2015 Share Posted May 8, 2015 (edited) And why are all those people pictured in downtown dallas? The freeway was shut down, and these are all drivers, wandering helpless with their cars out of fuel sitting on entrance ramps Edited May 8, 2015 by cspwal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hindesky Posted May 9, 2015 Share Posted May 9, 2015 McGowan Station Parking GARAGE !!! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrLan34 Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 (edited) Camden McGowen Station Developer: Camden Units: 315 Move-ins: January 2017 C amden boldly started its Midtown community amid falling oil prices at the end of 2014. Since little else started around that time, CEO Ric Campo says there will be a gap in deliveries in 2017, and this property will be there to fill it.Read more at: https://www.bisnow.com/houston/news/multifamily/montrose-still-has-a-huge-pipeline-45952 Edited May 19, 2015 by DrLan34 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoustonIsHome Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 Wasn't Campo just saying they are going to drag their feet? Now they are acting like they are sticking this out like champs? 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luminare Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 Wasn't Campo just saying they are going to drag their feet? Now they are acting like they are sticking this out like champs? Campo must be reading off of Culbersons playbook 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrLan34 Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 (edited) The Midtown Redevelopment Authority plans to hold a groundbreaking ceremony for Midtown Park — the site commonly known as the SuperBlock — next week. Midtown Park is a six-acre site that will be developed into a mixed-use facility including a public park, retail space, residential facilities and a public parking garage, according to the Midtown Redevelopment Authority. The organization is developing the site, bordered by Main Street and adjacent to McGowen Street Rail Station, with Houston-based developer Camden Property Trust (NYSE: CPT). The Midtown Redevelopment Authority is developing the public park, retail and parking garage, while Camden is developing the multifamily residential project, Camden McGowen Station. The groundbreaking is scheduled for May 28, and Midtown Park is expected to be complete in late 2016. Camden began work in 2014 on the $90 million Camden McGowen Station, an eight-story, 315-unit apartment complex along Main and McGowen streets near downtown Houston. The Midtown Redevelopment Authority project consists of two park spaces covering a total of three acres, including food and beverage anchors, pedestrian-oriented streetscapes and the underground parking garage, which will have 400 spaces. The retail plaza will take up half an acre adjacent to McGowen Street and will include a restaurant and kiosk. The 2.5-acre greenspace south of the multifamily development will include a great lawn and a pavilion and stage structure. Edited May 20, 2015 by DrLan34 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howard Huge Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 (edited) The Midtown Redevelopment Authority is developing the public park, retail and parking garage, while Camden is developing the multifamily residential projectSee, Midtown is building the garage, not Camden. Or am I reading this wrong? Edited May 20, 2015 by Howard Huge 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillip_white Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 Being the developer (MRA) and general contractor (Camden for MRA) aren't necessarily the same thing. Let's not get into semantics so soon after that whole "digital vs analog" thing.See, Midtown is building the garage, not Camden. Or am I reading this wrong? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howard Huge Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 Being the developer (MRA) and general contractor (Camden for MRA) aren't necessarily the same thing. Let's not get into semantics so soon after that whole "digital vs analog" thing. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howard Huge Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 (edited) That clock is digital, I don't care what anybody says. Edited May 20, 2015 by Howard Huge 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkHouston Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 (edited) Houston Business Journal Edited May 20, 2015 by MarkHouston 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_cuevas713 Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 ABOUT TIME! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monarch Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 (edited) lively and energetic! loving the midtown entry signage... Edited May 20, 2015 by monarch 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urbannizer Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 There's a sign on the Travis side of this block that has a nice rendering of the apartments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrLan34 Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 There's a sign on the Travis side of this block that has a nice rendering of the apartments. 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoustonIsHome Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 Coming 2017??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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