Brooklyn173 Posted February 14, 2021 Share Posted February 14, 2021 I think the green walls is the Fanin facing side. The complete build out will have a new building in front of that. I went to the sales office a while back and they described the future there as "mid-sized" but when pressed they admitted they didn't really know the actual plan. My guess is the green is more artistic license than an actual design element. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bassclef Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 On 2/13/2021 at 8:18 PM, Highrise Tower said: Fitzroy Residences model in the showroom. Ugly, boxy and boring as usual. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 10 hours ago, Bassclef said: Ugly, boxy and boring as usual. Their goal is to maximize the usable space they can sell. That means boxy. That's just the way it is. What would you build, if you were using your own money, or investor's money? Something cool and cutting edge, or something that maximized your profit? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thatguysly Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 It looks decent for being all boxy. The amount of glass helps. Great for Midtown infill. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H-Town Man Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 22 hours ago, Ross said: Their goal is to maximize the usable space they can sell. That means boxy. That's just the way it is. What would you build, if you were using your own money, or investor's money? Something cool and cutting edge, or something that maximized your profit? But there have been plenty of buildings in Houston that were cool and cutting edge rather than boxy, and that brought profit to their investors. How do you know that a boxy building is the only building that can be profitable? Have you seen the cost sheets and revenue projections? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 4 minutes ago, H-Town Man said: But there have been plenty of buildings in Houston that were cool and cutting edge rather than boxy, and that brought profit to their investors. How do you know that a boxy building is the only building that can be profitable? Have you seen the cost sheets and revenue projections? Not for those specific buildings, but I've had enough discussion with my architect and developer friends to learn what shapes maximize profits. Some developers may not want to maximize profits, but the boxy designs help that goal. Keep in mind that I didn't offer an opinion on whether that's good or not, I just offered an explanation of why it happens. I've also been in buildings in the Middle East that were cool shapes, and the floor plans were awful, since it's hard to maximize usable space in circles, ovals, truncated cones, etc. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H-Town Man Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 15 minutes ago, Ross said: Not for those specific buildings, but I've had enough discussion with my architect and developer friends to learn what shapes maximize profits. Some developers may not want to maximize profits, but the boxy designs help that goal. Keep in mind that I didn't offer an opinion on whether that's good or not, I just offered an explanation of why it happens. I've also been in buildings in the Middle East that were cool shapes, and the floor plans were awful, since it's hard to maximize usable space in circles, ovals, truncated cones, etc. Some developers are more daring, others are more safe. Architectural enthusiasts are going to applaud the daring ones and groan at the safe ones. Just the way it is. Part of the reward for taking risks is winning the gratitude of the public. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zaphod Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 (edited) Boxy isn't bad. Most of Houston's more iconic buildings are boxy. I think those translucent plastic models aren't a good representation of what this will look like. Also I think it looks good. It kind of reminds me of something you'd see in Miami, in a good way. The rounded corners, darker glass, etc, do that. Edited February 16, 2021 by zaphod 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West Timer Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 (edited) This will be the biggest and best building ever built in the history of Midtown. Houston will be lucky if it gets built at all. Even ugly, old Dallas and tiny, over-rated Austin would be happy to have it. Edited February 16, 2021 by West Timer 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tumbleweed_Tx Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 the "points" at Pennzoil Place may look cool from the outside, but they are wasted space inside. You can't do anything with them except make them storage or mechanical areas 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoustonBoy Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 4 hours ago, Tumbleweed_Tx said: the "points" at Pennzoil Place may look cool from the outside, but they are wasted space inside. You can't do anything with them except make them storage or mechanical areas Or turn them into a cool architectural bar/restaurant 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H-Town Man Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 18 hours ago, Tumbleweed_Tx said: the "points" at Pennzoil Place may look cool from the outside, but they are wasted space inside. You can't do anything with them except make them storage or mechanical areas But because they looked cool, Hines was able to charge more for rent throughout the building and make more money. This was his innovation in high-rise office development in the 70's. He realized that a less efficient building could be more profitable because of the aesthetic appeal. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post phillip_white Posted February 18, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 18, 2021 Anyway... back to Caydon related updates: they have been running a generator to keep power on at Drewery Place. Photo taken 2/16. 14 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post MarathonMan Posted March 2, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted March 2, 2021 Common Bond Midtown coming to Drewery Place. Big win for Midtown! 13 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HNathoo Posted March 2, 2021 Share Posted March 2, 2021 2 hours ago, MarathonMan said: Common Bond Midtown coming to Drewery Place. Big win for Midtown! Wow. Two midtown locations? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarathonMan Posted March 2, 2021 Share Posted March 2, 2021 16 minutes ago, HNathoo said: Wow. Two midtown locations? Where is the other Midtown location? I know of Montrose, Med Center and Downtown locations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
houstontexasjack Posted March 2, 2021 Share Posted March 2, 2021 (edited) 27 minutes ago, MarathonMan said: Where is the other Midtown location? I know of Montrose, Med Center and Downtown locations. Common Bond is also opening up at the Ion. Edit: I think both the location at the Ion and the location at Drewery Place will be “on-the-go” concepts similar to what Common Bond has up in the Heights (cold sandwiches, pastries, coffee, but without the full menu that includes hot items). Edited March 2, 2021 by houstontexasjack 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toxtethogrady Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 On 2/15/2021 at 2:46 PM, thatguysly said: It looks decent for being all boxy. The amount of glass helps. Great for Midtown infill. And rounded corners. Someone thinks rounded corners are in this season... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarathonMan Posted March 20, 2021 Share Posted March 20, 2021 Heard from a friend who works for Midtown Management District that the Fitzroy/Kimpton tower will be delayed again. . . until 2022. Anyone else hear anything to that effect? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillip_white Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 On 3/19/2021 at 10:50 PM, MarathonMan said: Heard from a friend who works for Midtown Management District that the Fitzroy/Kimpton tower will be delayed again. . . until 2022. Anyone else hear anything to that effect? I just got a marketing e-mail from them (today) stating the estimated closing date for the condos would be late 2023. Of course it has a little asterisk next to it confirming they are full of crap 😆 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paco Jones Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 On 3/19/2021 at 10:50 PM, MarathonMan said: Heard from a friend who works for Midtown Management District that the Fitzroy/Kimpton tower will be delayed again. . . until 2022. Anyone else hear anything to that effect? Yes, it is delayed. There has been no new progressive set of construction documents issued (that I'm aware of). The latest set are Design Development, so they still have at least issue for permit drawings and construction drawing to produce. I know they were shopping at least three general contractors in October/November of last year and then everything went silent. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Avossos Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 39 minutes ago, hindesky said: Does that mean it’s starting in 1.5 months!? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twinsanity02 Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 2 hours ago, Avossos said: Does that mean it’s starting in 1.5 months!? I read it as 1.5 months minimum time or 1.5 months +30 days maximum time. But you are in the ballpark with your estimate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shasta Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 (edited) Yes, there appears to be a ton of activity going on behind the scenes right now. A lot of capital had been tied up because of the uncertainty of the pandemic but there is a light at the end of the tunnel now and real estate is an investment type people have been waiting to invest in. Especially before the interest rates tick back up. We may see a flurry of new project proposals this summer. Let's see how many break ground! Edited April 16, 2021 by shasta 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarathonMan Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 3 hours ago, hindesky said: Great news!!! Anyone know how condo sales are going for this? It seems like Houston is slow to embrace high-rise condo living. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hindesky Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 Caydon is selling their Midtown Drewery Place apartments. https://realtynewsreport.com/caydon-selling-drewery-place-apartment-tower-in-midtown/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H-Town Man Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 That low muttering you hear right now is a bunch of Houston developers saying, "Hope you enjoyed your time in America. Rook." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSirDingle Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 14 minutes ago, hindesky said: Caydon is selling their Midtown Drewery Place apartments. https://realtynewsreport.com/caydon-selling-drewery-place-apartment-tower-in-midtown/ I'm betting it goes for around $120-$145 million. Also it seems like they're still going foward with the rest of the development Quote Having completed the Drewery Place tower, Caydon’s next Midtown project is Fitzroy, a 32-story tower pairing 191 condominiums with a 190-room boutique hotel operated by Kimpton Hotels and Restaurants. Caydon is expect to expected to break ground in mid-2021 and complete the Fitzroy condo tower in late 2023.The 558,000 SF tower will be the second phase of the 2.5 million SF mixed-use district Caydon intends for three city blocks – about 3.5 acres bordered by Main, McGowen, Fannin and Tuam, and adjacent to Midtown Park. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H-Town Man Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 1 minute ago, TheSirDingle said: I'm betting it goes for around $120-$145 million. Also it seems like they're still going foward with the rest of the development Does Biv really know something or is he just regurgitating old information? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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