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from an e-mail i got

"VIP MEMBERSHIPS

SCOTT GERTNER’S AT HOUSTON PAVILIONS

Of course, you are all VIPs to me, but if you really want to slip by the velvet rope, get your 2011 VIP Diamond Membership to Scott Gertner’s at Houston Pavilions. You get a $200 discount from the yearly $1,000 fee if you purchase one before April 15th. As a VIP Diamond Member, you will never wait in line, you will get VIP table reservations and VIP rooftop cabana reservations. You also get access to the VIP Lounge and Balcony. And, there’s more...advance notice of all upcoming specials and events and a VIP invitation to the grand opening party! Scott Gertner’s at Houston Pavilions opens this spring/summer!

THE 411: Scott Gertner’s at Houston Pavilions is located on the third floor above center court. 713.303.4839. For VIP memberships, contact Cindy Gertner at cgertner@aol.com. scottgertner.com"

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The board of the Downtown Redevelopment Authority has agreed to release, in the form of a loan, the last of $3.3 million in funds promised to developers of the Houston Pavilions.

Other covenants to be worked into the modified agreement include requiring that developers enhance the exterior of the project with streetscapes, awnings and outdoor eating areas and that a Houston Police Department special operations storefront be placed in the complex.

The city believes additional amenities and streetscape improvements would make the site more attractive and “help entice more customers to explore the development’s shopping and entertainment options,” city spokeswoman Janice Evans said.

The city also believes the Pavilions is a convenient location for a police storefront and more visible than the former one on Preston, she said.

Naveen Jaggi, a local retail broker with CB Richard Ellis, noted that amenities to encourage outdoor eating and gathering are critical to creating a sense of space.

“For retail success you need personality and a sense of energy,” he said. “The city, it appears, feels as if The Pavilions is a bit sterile and needs to promote more outside and invigorating environment. The request for an HPD storefront is certainly not desirable from a landlord perspective but the city wants to promote downtown retail as a safe environment for families and tourists, so the request is logical.”

http://blog.chron.co...ance-from-city/

Anyone been to HP lately? Haven't been since winter.

Funny how they describe it as a bit stale, haha.

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JUMBOTRONS! That would give it more synergy. It wouldn't kill downtown if there was a little more flash, sparkle and glamour. HP would get more attention if it emitted light.

I wonder why that got scrapped in the first place. You're right, it's in need of some bling.

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I've been to HP a couple of times during the last few months to go to concerts at the House of Blues and I agree that it's pretty stale. It's never reached a high enough occupancy rate to really become a destination. The first floor is ok, and the eastern end of the third floor has some good places, but the second floor is a ghost town.

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These were taken two weeks ago, but never got around to posting them:

This is where I'm guessing where Scot Gertner's bar will be.

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For a little context, this was taken at about 8ish? So it was still fairly early on a Saturday night.

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The inside of Forever 21. It wasn't packed, but there were people inside and saw more than a few people with bags walking around town.

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pavilions isn't a shopping destination because all the stores here can be found at the mall around the corner from where you live. The only unique things are the HoB and Lucky Strike

You also seem to forget, not everyone lives in the 'burbs.

This would be better marketed to the people coming in for business or conventions, not to mention the occasional Midtowner.

Just a pity we couldn't get a hotel in there, I think it would have been more successful. :(

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You also seem to forget, not everyone lives in the 'burbs.

This would be better marketed to the people coming in for business or conventions, not to mention the occasional Midtowner.

Just a pity we couldn't get a hotel in there, I think it would have been more successful. :(

I agree on the hotel. I think the longer HP sites idle like it has been, the longer and more difficult it is to eventually persuade Houstonians this is a place to be.

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perhaps one can be built next door?

There's one already next door, I'm curious how many visitors HP gets from them. I would think hotel visitors like convenience, especially business travlers, so a hotel next door would benefit HP and the hotel I would think.

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You also seem to forget, not everyone lives in the 'burbs.

This would be better marketed to the people coming in for business or conventions, not to mention the occasional Midtowner.

Just a pity we couldn't get a hotel in there, I think it would have been more successful. :(

That's what happens when you cut so many damn corners. If the Pavilions looked like the first rendering they showed, I don't have much doubt that it would be a success. They should have kept the condo/hotel tower (just build that parking!), maybe add a 12-screen movie theater (AMC or Cinemark), add jumbotrons (with ads for the Rockets, movie ads, etc.), and probably the most important, make stores accessible from the sidewalk. There should be two entrances, one in the inside corridor, and one on the sidewalk.

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That's what happens when you cut so many damn corners. If the Pavilions looked like the first rendering they showed, I don't have much doubt that it would be a success. They should have kept the condo/hotel tower (just build that parking!), maybe add a 12-screen movie theater (AMC or Cinemark), add jumbotrons (with ads for the Rockets, movie ads, etc.), and probably the most important, make stores accessible from the sidewalk. There should be two entrances, one in the inside corridor, and one on the sidewalk.

MisterX strongly disagrees with your post! we should all stop our complaining b/c hey, at least the parking lots are gone! what an ungrateful lot around here....

:)

but that;s exactly what should have happened. the developers were able to turn what should have been a transformative block of cbd into what has amounted to little more than an outdoor mall with an office building attached. i'm glad the city is trying to force them to open up the sidewalks. i mean the fact that they didn't do that to begin with (as shown in their own renderings) is almost mindblowing. probably the single biggest goal of a development like this (outside of turning a profit) is to increase pedestrian activity, to draw the surrounding people to the complex... and they literally went in the other direction. the developer deserves to be broke.

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swtsig agrees with your post (no offense Trae). We should all keep up the complaining and then the developer will tear down this version of HP and build a new one just for disgruntled HAIFers. Seriously, if typing complaints on the internet about a project which has already been built can make HP be a better place to visit, then by all means keep typing and bitching.

I know HP could have been better, but besides the positive of replacing vacant lots, the other positive (a dirty word at HAIF) that might come out of HP not having the residential component COULD be that the near by vacant lots to the east of HP may one day be a draw to developers wanting to cash in on having residential proximity to HP. The hotels and condos that didn't get built on top of HP could very well be built next to HP and fill some vacant lots. Whereas if HP built hotels and residential, it might keep those other vacant lots empty forever.

Another positive (excuse my language) is that now there is something to work with on those blocks. Really, it is a miracle that anything was built there at all - especially now. Instead of discussing ways to make HP better we could very well be discussing what pie in the sky ideas we all WISH somebody would build on those 3 vacant blocks which could have easily remained empty for the rest of our lives.

Yes. I'm glad HP is there. Now at least there is something to fight about. Maybe swtsig's idea of what HP should have been will go up on the 3 vacant lots directly east of HP.

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