TMC Helix Park: Texas Medical Center Bio Research Campus

[IntheKnowHouston]

A new Instagram for TMC Helix Park:

https://www.instagram.com/tmchelixpark/



Also, there is a website but it's not up and running yet.

http://tmchelixpark.com/

Edited February 2, 2023 by IntheKnowHouston

[004n063]

Anybody have more details about the bridge at the bottom of @hindesky's image?

[BeerNut]

I'm putting my money on Grand Hyatt.

[Luminare]

On 2/1/2023 at 6:56 AM, 004n063 said:

Anybody have more details about the bridge at the bottom of @hindesky's image?

All I know is that TMC should seriously consider in the coming years relocating their central plants and electric substations. With this project extending the borders of the TMC across the Brays, it makes no sense to keep that northern shore of Brays utilitarian. That land is going to be to valuable in the coming years and it needs to look the part as a way to seamlessly "bridge" between both parts. It will be expensive. I'd say somewhere in the $500M - $1B range to move everything, with the whole process taking 5-10 years, but would be a great investment. Only question is...where do you relocate it?

[004n063]

1 hour ago, Luminare said:

Only question is...where do you relocate it?

You're gonna make me say it, aren't you...

....

Okay, fine. 

 

The Astrodome.

[thatguysly]

Good luck getting TECO to move. If anything they will expand soon to meet TMC needs.

[kennyc05]

17 minutes ago, thatguysly said:

Good luck getting TECO to move. If anything they will expand soon to meet TMC needs.

TECO is a major part of the Med Center. 

[Houston19514]

23 hours ago, Luminare said:

All I know is that TMC should seriously consider in the coming years relocating their central plants and electric substations. With this project extending the borders of the TMC across the Brays, it makes no sense to keep that northern shore of Brays utilitarian. That land is going to be to valuable in the coming years and it needs to look the part as a way to seamlessly "bridge" between both parts. It will be expensive. I'd say somewhere in the $500M - $1B range to move everything, with the whole process taking 5-10 years, but would be a great investment. Only question is...where do you relocate it?

If it would seriously cost, anywhere near the $500 M - $1 B range to move these, it's hard to imagine that being a good investment.

[Houston19514]

1 hour ago, kennyc05 said:

TECO is a major part of the Med Center. 

Yeah, TECO is owned by the Texas Medical Center and some of its member institutions.  If the Medical Center wanted TECO to move its facilities, TECO would move them. 

Edited February 3, 2023 by Houston19514

[NB_Brendan]

5 minutes ago, Houston19514 said:

If it would seriously cost, anywhere near the $500 M - $1 B range to move these, it's hard to imagine that being a good investment.

I guess it depends on how much they think that land is worth, huh? But yeah that is a significant amount of change to hand out if you don't know for sure that you're going to make your money back through commercial/residential developments. 

[Houston19514]

2 minutes ago, NB_Brendan said:

I guess it depends on how much they think that land is worth, huh? But yeah that is a significant amount of change to hand out if you don't know for sure that you're going to make your money back through commercial/residential developments. 

Well, yes, of course it does.  And again, it's hard to imagine anyone thinking spending $500 M to $1 Billion to move the TECO facilities would be a good investment. Especially when you consider, they can't be moved miles away; so the dirt they would move them to would not be hugely less expensive dirt than that on which they are now sitting.

[NB_Brendan]

1 minute ago, Houston19514 said:

Well, yes, of course it does.  And again, it's hard to imagine anyone thinking spending $500 M to $1 Billion to move the TECO facilities would be a good investment. Especially when you consider, they can't be moved miles away; so the dirt they would move them to would not be hugely less expensive dirt than that on which they are now sitting.

Good point, it's not like they can move them across town. Wonder what Luminare was getting at?

[Amlaham]

I don't think it needs to be moved tbh that sounds close to impossible. It would be nice if they considered remodeling the outside? It's not very pretty and other central plants in big cities do a better job at making them look decent to the public eye.

 

 

[hindesky]

I think it's a good looking building considering what it does.

[NB_Brendan]

15 minutes ago, hindesky said:

I think it's a good looking building considering what it does.

ahhh im loving the double helix design. 

[Amlaham]

To me, the view from the project looks awful 😅

Maybe if they plants trees/ shrubs to cover this side of the building it wouldn't be so bad?

 

 

Edited February 4, 2023 by Amlaham

[Twinsanity02]

16 hours ago, NB_Brendan said:

ahhh im loving the double helix design. 

 

16 hours ago, NB_Brendan said:

ahhh im loving the double helix design. 

I agree, as much as my fellow Professors of Biology would wish to add the hydrogen bonds between DNA's nitrogenous bases. Hydrogen bonds are vital . Still, we shall endure.

[bobruss]

I think its pretty fortuitous that 20 years ago when they built that wall they chose to add Double Helix symbols on it. I can see the architects for TMC3, driving around  the site surveying the property and it's surroundings. Perhaps seeing that wall with the row of double helix's symbols was they're inspiration. As for the ugly power plant. They could always build a tall wall with more Double Helix's echoing the shape.

[NB_Brendan]

6 hours ago, Twinsanity02 said:

 

I agree, as much as my fellow Professors of Biology would wish to add the hydrogen bonds between DNA's nitrogenous bases. Hydrogen bonds are vital . Still, we shall endure.

haha. to be fair, only a few bio nerds will notice! 

[Highrise Tower]

One Discovery Way:

Unknown Street:

Parcel E is being worked on:

Two Discovery Way:

Helix Park, section 1:

Helix Park, section 2:

Helix Park, section 3:

Helix Park, section 4:

Collaborative Building:

Mixed-Use Garage topping out:

[NB_Brendan]

3 hours ago, Highrise Tower said:

One Discovery Way:

Unknown Street:

Parcel E is being worked on:

Two Discovery Way:

Helix Park, section 1:

Helix Park, section 2:

Helix Park, section 3:

Helix Park, section 4:

Collaborative Building:

Mixed-Use Garage topping out:

That thing is looking beautiful! 

[Highrise Tower]

One Discovery Way:

Helix Park, section 2:

Helix Park, section 3:

Helix Park, section 4:

Collaborative Building:

Parcel E coming out nicely:

Two Discovery Way:

Mixed-Use Garage:

[NB_Brendan]

9 hours ago, Highrise Tower said:

One Discovery Way:

Helix Park, section 2:

Helix Park, section 3:

Helix Park, section 4:

Collaborative Building:

Parcel E coming out nicely:

Two Discovery Way:

Mixed-Use Garage:

love the design on that collaborative building. this whole project seems to have an appropriate amount of natural light, by my standards :) 

[cityliving]

[Highrise Tower]

One Discovery Way:

Unknown path:

Collaborative Building:

Helix Park, section 1:

Helix Park, section 2:

Helix Park, section 3:

Helix Park, section 4:

Unknown Street:

Two Discovery Way:

Mixed-Use Garage:

[Highrise Tower]

One Discovery Way:

Unknown Path:

Two Discovery Way:

Parcel E:

Unknown Street:

Collaborative Building:

Unknown Street:

Helix Park, section 1:

Helix Park, section 2:

Helix Park, section 3:

Helix Park, section 4:

Mixed-Use Garage featuring the topping out tree:

[Highrise Tower]

On 1/18/2023 at 1:08 PM, Big E said:

Are they finally starting on this? Bout time. This is the largest piece of phase one and it hasn't started yet.

There's a new TMC Helix Park Retail Book Brochure.

https://www.tmc.edu/wp-content/uploads/2023/02/TMC-HelixPark-Retail-Deck_Online_022023.pdf

This is no longer considered phase one.  Phase two includes the hotel, conference center, and multifamily tower. Phase 2 is due to come online in 2025/2026.  This means construction should start later this year? Or at the latest early next year. 

The campus activities and amenities list grew! This place seems like a dream!! 

37 acres mixed-use at full build-out including:

5.4M developed SF
275K SF of programmed park
123K SF retail
150 seat beer garden (!!)
20K SF food hall (!!)
1K seat amphitheater (!!)
300K SF parking

The Mixed-Use Garage looks better than I thought. wow!!  The fitness club that they are calling "Burn Fitness" includes a roof top pool! Look at that unique golden mesh wrap and the curvy ground floor glass facade!!

Even the parking garage is a master piece!

[ChannelTwoNews]

On 2/27/2023 at 10:00 AM, Highrise Tower said:

There's a new TMC Helix Park Retail Book Brochure.

https://www.tmc.edu/wp-content/uploads/2023/02/TMC-HelixPark-Retail-Deck_Online_022023.pdf

This is no longer considered phase one.  Phase two includes the hotel, conference center, and multifamily tower. Phase 2 is due to come online in 2025/2026.  This means construction should start later this year? Or at the latest early next year. 

The campus activities and amenities list grew! This place seems like a dream!! 

37 acres mixed-use at full build-out including:

5.4M developed SF
275K SF of programmed park
123K SF retail
150 seat beer garden (!!)
20K SF food hall (!!)
1K seat amphitheater (!!)
300K SF parking

The Mixed-Use Garage looks better than I thought. wow!!  The fitness club that they are calling "Burn Fitness" includes a roof top pool! Look at that unique golden mesh wrap and the curvy ground floor glass facade!!

Even the parking garage is a master piece!

Looks like Dynamic One has a new brochure as well...

https://www.tmc.edu/wp-content/uploads/2023/02/BC_Dynamic_Brochure_230216.pdf

They put the timeline of the 2nd (South) Tower construction from Q3 2023 to the end of Q4 2025, if the chart in the brochure is anything to go off of.

[Big E]

On 2/27/2023 at 10:00 AM, Highrise Tower said:

There's a new TMC Helix Park Retail Book Brochure.

https://www.tmc.edu/wp-content/uploads/2023/02/TMC-HelixPark-Retail-Deck_Online_022023.pdf

This is no longer considered phase one.  Phase two includes the hotel, conference center, and multifamily tower. Phase 2 is due to come online in 2025/2026.  This means construction should start later this year? Or at the latest early next year. 

The campus activities and amenities list grew! This place seems like a dream!! 

37 acres mixed-use at full build-out including:

5.4M developed SF
275K SF of programmed park
123K SF retail
150 seat beer garden (!!)
20K SF food hall (!!)
1K seat amphitheater (!!)
300K SF parking

The Mixed-Use Garage looks better than I thought. wow!!  The fitness club that they are calling "Burn Fitness" includes a roof top pool! Look at that unique golden mesh wrap and the curvy ground floor glass facade!!

Even the parking garage is a master piece!

Well this is somewhat disappointing (the construction timeline, not the design itself). This means phase one is...two and a half buildings? As is Phase 2, if we count the hotel, conference center and residential tower as one building. At least I like the garage's design now that I've seen the finished product. And what's with Parcel A? Does this mean they don't even have plan on when they will start building that? Also, they show the UTHealth and MD Anderson buildings in the picture, but give no timeline on their completion.

[H-Town Man]

On 2/28/2023 at 10:19 PM, Big E said:

Well this is somewhat disappointing (the construction timeline, not the design itself). This means phase one is...two and a half buildings? As is Phase 2, if we count the hotel, conference center and residential tower as one building. At least I like the garage's design now that I've seen the finished product. And what's with Parcel A? Does this mean they don't even have plan on when they will start building that? Also, they show the UTHealth and MD Anderson buildings in the picture, but give no timeline on their completion.

This article may shed some light. I waited to post it so as not to rain on the parade or be accused of undue pessimism. After ten years of heady growth, the biotech sector is now contracting rather than expanding, with one index of biotech stocks showing a 48% decline from two years ago and many companies struggling to survive. The upswing in interest rates the last couple years chased investors out of biotech as it did tech in general. Probably not the time to be a new, unproven biotech city trying to capture some of the overflow from the core biotech centers.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/layoffs-and-shutdowns-hit-biotech-industry-in-u-turn-ffdf14eb?page=3