Naviguessor Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 jesus christ 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkultra25 Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 1 hour ago, monarch said: trust me, i have personally witnessed these particular and remarkable fetes of mankind many times... especially in dubai, uae. It's indeed remarkable what can be accomplished when state-sponsored industries have no aversion to employing coercive labor practices that border on slavery. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monarch Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 On 1/7/2024 at 2:21 PM, monarch said: ^^^ you mean to tell me that city officials "CLOSED" down such a gorgeous fountain for maintenance... while downtown is loading up with fans and visitors from out of state for the CFP championship game? why on earth, wasn't this taken care of beforehand? my goodness houston! 30 minutes ago, Houston19514 said: I don't know about Dubai, but certainly, in the case of Las Vegas, you are comparing private, for-profit, operations with a city operation. The fountains are a big part of the marketing identity for those casinos and the like. The profit motive is very motivating indeed. Public entities just don't function as well. The last time I was in Rome, the Trevi Fountain wasn't working. The other problem with your post is that none of us are in these other places all the time, monitoring their operations 24/7. All fountains need some maintenance from time to time. It is highly unlikely that the various fountains in Las Vegas, Dubai, etc. are ALWAYS fully operational. But we're all thrilled that you've been to Dubai AND Las Vegas (or at least are able find lovely videos of their animated fountains on the internet). ^^^ first of all, it is quite evident that you do not know much about DUBAI, UAE. however, I DO. (since the city and surrounding emirates were like a second home to me for numerous years... during my time working throughout the country and theater of afghanistan respectively.) however, please allow for me to suggest that you not spend such an exorbitant time of your life upon HAIF trying in earnest to constantly CONTRADICT others... and actually get out a bit more. also, i have included my original posting for your reading convenience and comprehension. please note: i have never stated that all animated fountains do not ever require maintenance. my argument was with the TIMING of this require maintenance. the city of houston has known for a considerable amount of TIME, that we were hosting the 2024 CFG and subsequent entertainment weekend. additionally, i have noticed that you have so eloquently stated about the "MARKETING IDENTITY for casinos and the like" well, don't you think that the city of houston, as well as our sumptuous DOWNTOWN MAIN STREET, needs to market itself accordingly with OPERABLE street fountains? lastly, i cannot help but be so very "THRILLED" that you are hereby so very "THRILLED" that i have been to dubai, uae, and las vegas. however, judging from your constant contradicting posts and the such, somehow, i guess that i have always known that you @Houston19514 are the consummate, unadulterated... THRILL SEEKER... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monarch Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 15 minutes ago, mkultra25 said: It's indeed remarkable what can be accomplished when state-sponsored industries have no aversion to employing coercive labor practices that border on slavery. ^^^ oh really? well, can you please be so very kind as to point out the... SLAVES OF LAS VEGAS? we're waiting... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mollusk Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 Complex systems do break on their own from time to time, even if well maintained. I'll hazard the guess that Bellagio has a full time worker (or two, or three, or more) assigned to their fountains and a storeroom fully stocked with plenty of anything that can conceivably break, as does Dubai. Any municipal budget in Texas is spread much more thinly as a matter of course and thus doesn't have room for that, as evidenced by Houston still using Crown Victoria police cruisers (last manufactured in 2011) until very recently. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobruss Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 It also might be due to the weather yesterday. I know in the past these fountains have been closed down when the wind is forecast to be blowing hard from the north. When the fountains originally opened and water rained down on workers walking from their offices when the winds were heavy people were complaining and the city shut them down for a while. It causes the water to completely soak people walking on the sidewalk. The difference with the incredible fountains in Las Vegas, and Dubai, is that they are out in the middle of a very large body of water, far enough away from the crowds to not be a nuisance or a reason to detour. People go to see them as a tourist entertainment attraction and not a main thoroughfare for pedestrians. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATH Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 The fountains were down on Saturday, before the winds picked up. The fountains are supposed to be maintained by the Downtown District. The Downtown District is also responsible for maintaining the downtown parks, but if you've taken a close look at Market Square Park lately, you will see that this, too, is simply not being maintained. It's a shame because the District's budget should allow for proper maintenance to be carried out. You would think they could find a good contractor to keep the fountains running. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hbg.50 Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 7 minutes ago, ATH said: The fountains were down on Saturday, before the winds picked up. The fountains are supposed to be maintained by the Downtown District. The Downtown District is also responsible for maintaining the downtown parks, but if you've taken a close look at Market Square Park lately, you will see that this, too, is simply not being maintained. It's a shame because the District's budget should allow for proper maintenance to be carried out. You would think they could find a good contractor to keep the fountains running. I think what was bizarre is that the fountains had been off for several months, they were miraculously restored a week before the CFP Championship game and then shut off for “maintenance” the weekend of the game. Obviously it wasn’t maintenance. Anyway I think you guys have made a mountain out of a molehill. They aren’t that beautiful! If ABC wanted a beautiful water shot they could have taken the Mecum Fountains or the Water Wall at the Galleria. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_cuevas713 Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 19 hours ago, steve1363 said: I think what was bizarre is that the fountains had been off for several months, they were miraculously restored a week before the CFP Championship game and then shut off for “maintenance” the weekend of the game. Obviously it wasn’t maintenance. Anyway I think you guys have made a mountain out of a molehill. They aren’t that beautiful! If ABC wanted a beautiful water shot they could have taken the Mecum Fountains or the Water Wall at the Galleria. I agree, maintenance isn't the issue. It might not be the most beautiful fountain but I think it has potential if the square could draw more tenants. Also that waterwall thing that is never turned on needs to be removed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hindesky Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 I signed up for updates on the "More Space Main Street 2.0" got this update earlier today. Final Conceptual Plan https://ctycms.com/tx-houston/docs/231229-morespace-main-street-bod-summary.pdf If you want to get the updates sign up here..... https://form.jotform.com/233314580493153 3 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastwoodEnvoy Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 10 hours ago, hindesky said: Final Conceptual Plan https://ctycms.com/tx-houston/docs/231229-morespace-main-street-bod-summary.pdf Well this is interesting! Quote TABC policies: When patrons carry drinks out to publicly-accessible seating areas. Final resolution to be determined. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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