cloud713 Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 You just read that article about all the budget cuts too? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nativehoustonion Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 Yes across the world. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloud713 Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 Yeah.. But "moving 100 jobs to Houston".. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howard Huge Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 Got damn Saudis. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloud713 Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 I know, right? They don't know how bad they're screwing us over, killing HAIFers hopes and dreams.. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H-TownChris2 Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 I was actually hoping that this and 609 would go up at the same time.....what a bummer.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nonenadazilch Posted March 13, 2015 Share Posted March 13, 2015 (edited) sounds like a 2016 start. http://www.bizjournals.com/houston/blog/drilling-down/2015/03/chevron-gives-new-details-on-downtown-houston.html Edited March 13, 2015 by nonenadazilch 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gator Purify Posted March 13, 2015 Share Posted March 13, 2015 (edited) sounds like a 2016 start. http://www.bizjournals.com/houston/blog/drilling-down/2015/03/chevron-gives-new-details-on-downtown-houston.html Edited March 13, 2015 by Gator Purify Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dakota79 Posted March 13, 2015 Share Posted March 13, 2015 (edited) sounds like a 2016 start.http://www.bizjournals.com/houston/blog/drilling-down/2015/03/chevron-gives-new-details-on-downtown-houston.htmlThat's awesome news as we will need a big ass crane in the sky in 2016 and for the Super Bowl. Edited March 13, 2015 by Dakota79 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
houstontexasjack Posted March 13, 2015 Share Posted March 13, 2015 Well, at least the quote indicated "until 2016" and not "until 2016 at the earliest." I am optimistic this will move forward, but the timeline just might be a bit slower than we would like. However, I think it will--simply by virtue of its bulk and height--ad quite the presence to the Downtown skyline and act as a counterbalance to the south of the Wells Fargo Plaza. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avossos Posted March 13, 2015 Share Posted March 13, 2015 The tower will happen most likely... not sure when, but happy to know its still in the plan. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triton Posted March 13, 2015 Share Posted March 13, 2015 The tower will happen most likely... not sure when, but happy to know its still in the plan. How do you figure that? I feel like this Chevron statement was wishy-washy. I really really hope this gets built... it's a beautiful tower and it's tall... but it feels like a 50/50 chance that it does get built. They don't want to overspend and are willing to sell their assets, but then they want to spend several hundred million dollars on a shiney new tower? Something doesn't sound right there. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
houstontexasjack Posted March 13, 2015 Share Posted March 13, 2015 How do you figure that? I feel like this Chevron statement was wishy-washy. I really really hope this gets built... it's a beautiful tower and it's tall... but it feels like a 50/50 chance that it does get built. They don't want to overspend and are willing to sell their assets, but then they want to spend several hundred million dollars on a shiney new tower? Something doesn't sound right there. I didn't think the statement was necessarily wishy-washy or inconsistent. It sounded to me as though Chevron is committed to moving forward eventually, but that the tower might be subject to further delays depending on how the market shakes out. I would love to see a 2016 start but would not be shocked for a push into 2017 or 2018. However, given the really long drought this city had in skyscraper construction (the skyline barely changed when I was growing up here in the 90's), a delay of a few years is not so bad. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houston19514 Posted March 13, 2015 Share Posted March 13, 2015 How do you figure that? I feel like this Chevron statement was wishy-washy. I really really hope this gets built... it's a beautiful tower and it's tall... but it feels like a 50/50 chance that it does get built. They don't want to overspend and are willing to sell their assets, but then they want to spend several hundred million dollars on a shiney new tower? Something doesn't sound right there. "We remain committed to the new building" does not sound very wishy-washy to me. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloud713 Posted March 13, 2015 Share Posted March 13, 2015 yeah i think the start date is the only wishy washy part. maybe it will allow for a redesign? 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triton Posted March 13, 2015 Share Posted March 13, 2015 All right, perhaps we can simply expect more delays. I don't know... here's my thinking. Say this oil market just doesn't improve at all for a while and say this hurts Chevron's budget more than they expect. I know they say they are committed now, but what if that just doesn't look realistic a year from now? If HAIF hasn't understood me yet, I like to challenge the consensus here even if I agree with it. I hope this tower gets built and this article does make me feel a bit optimistic but I am still not convinced this tower is a sure thing despite what they are saying. We'll check back to this section of the thread in a year from now and see what actually panned out. yeah i think the start date is the only wishy washy part. maybe it will allow for a redesign? Or not as tall. I hope not. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fkp5 Posted March 13, 2015 Share Posted March 13, 2015 yeah i think the start date is the only wishy washy part. maybe it will allow for a redesign? A redesign would be nice. There's nothing wrong with the current design, but I think they could do a little better in tying it in with their other two buildings. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LTAWACS Posted March 13, 2015 Share Posted March 13, 2015 I wouldn't mind a redesign ... there is always a better design ... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triton Posted March 13, 2015 Share Posted March 13, 2015 I wouldn't mind a redesign ... there is always a better design ... ...And then there is always a worse design and a smaller tower. Budget cuts, baby! "Yea, we are committed to this thing but it's 30 stories now and it resembles the Embassy Suites by DG." No thank you! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloud713 Posted March 13, 2015 Share Posted March 13, 2015 Don't get me wrong, I love the podium and wouldn't change a thing about that part. I just wish the tower itself had a little more of a signature element to it. Then again Wells and 600 Travis don't really have much pizzazz(?). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timoric Posted March 13, 2015 Share Posted March 13, 2015 (edited) - Edited July 8, 2019 by Timoric Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
houstontexasjack Posted March 13, 2015 Share Posted March 13, 2015 chev·ronˈSHevrən/noun a line or stripe in the shape of a V or an inverted V, especially one on the sleeve of a uniform indicating rank or length of service. So, we add a light-up crown in the shape of a Chevron to get this thing's height over 900 feet (and maybe a little bit over the Williams Tower). Now, all I need to do is persuade Chevron that this is a good use of their money. :-) 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nativehoustonion Posted March 13, 2015 Share Posted March 13, 2015 Another 5 Allen Center. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swtsig Posted March 13, 2015 Share Posted March 13, 2015 All right, perhaps we can simply expect more delays. I don't know... here's my thinking. Say this oil market just doesn't improve at all for a while and say this hurts Chevron's budget more than they expect. I know they say they are committed now, but what if that just doesn't look realistic a year from now? If HAIF hasn't understood me yet, I like to challenge the consensus here even if I agree with it. I hope this tower gets built and this article does make me feel a bit optimistic but I am still not convinced this tower is a sure thing despite what they are saying. We'll check back to this section of the thread in a year from now and see what actually panned out. Or not as tall. I hope not. doesn't it go without saying that if things go to hell in handbasket of course all sorts of projects will get cancelled, this included? you could say the exact opposite too - if all of these idled rigs cuts production in half by next month and oil bounces back to $85 a barrel they'll probably break ground this year. everything is subject to change 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobert Posted March 13, 2015 Share Posted March 13, 2015 I wouldn't hold my breath on this one even for 2017 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triton Posted March 13, 2015 Share Posted March 13, 2015 doesn't it go without saying that if things go to hell in handbasket of course all sorts of projects will get cancelled, this included? you could say the exact opposite too - if all of these idled rigs cuts production in half by next month and oil bounces back to $85 a barrel they'll probably break ground this year. everything is subject to change Very true. Let's hope for the best! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H-TownChris2 Posted March 13, 2015 Share Posted March 13, 2015 I think they'll proceed, but of course, I don't expect them to delay. The only thing that'll cause another delay, is if the oil price goes down again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timoric Posted March 13, 2015 Share Posted March 13, 2015 (edited) - Edited July 8, 2019 by Timoric Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purdueenginerd Posted March 13, 2015 Share Posted March 13, 2015 (edited) Windows need to have Chevron Hatching with a chevron shaped crown at the top. It would be like inception. Chevron within a Chevron within a Chevron. Edited March 13, 2015 by Purdueenginerd 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
houstontexasjack Posted March 13, 2015 Share Posted March 13, 2015 Windows need to have Chevron Hatching with a chevron shaped crown at the top. It would be like inception. Chevron within a Chevron within a Chevron. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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