mattyt36 Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 1 minute ago, Reporter said: Look at it like this - Houston already has the shortest W in the world. It is 0 stories tall. And we have to share that indignity with San Antonio! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vy65 Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 Rah rah rah Can’t rationalize away how utterly unimpressive that design is. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobruss Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 My concern lies not with the height of this hotel, but the developers themselves. I tried to find out more about this fairly new 2016 company that Yashani started and offices on Bellaire Blvd., but there is no way to get to a site and the little bit of information sounds very weak. It reminds me a bit of the guys sitting on the Holidaze inn downtown. These are not the guys we want building this hotel. Yashani and Yari built the Scottsdale W and I'm not impressed. I have serious fears that they are going to build something similar to the Embassy Suites with stucco siding or the Hampton Homewood suites in downtown. Mark my word these are not the developers we want building a W hotel in this space. We want somebody willing to splurge a little and these guys won't do that. Keep them in the burbs. Who built the Austin W. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattyt36 Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 2 minutes ago, bobruss said: Yashani and Yari built the Scottsdale W and I'm not impressed. Uh oh, that one is super short!!!! ;-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattyt36 Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Vy65 said: Rah rah rah Can’t rationalize away how utterly unimpressive that design is. Is anyone really all that impressed with the W Austin or W Dallas other than they're taller? Talk about bland boxes. Edited February 17, 2018 by mattyt36 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vy65 Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 1 minute ago, mattyt36 said: Is anyone really all that impressed with the W Austin or W Dallas other than they're taller? Talk about bland boxes. Im not saying they’re architectural feats. But compared to this rendering, yeah I’d say they are impressive. All the obvious caveats apply with the limited information we have, but this design leaves a lot to be desired. Doesn’t even appear to have the condo components both Dallas and Austin have. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattyt36 Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 2 minutes ago, Vy65 said: Im not saying they’re architectural feats. But compared to this rendering, yeah I’d say they are impressive. All the obvious caveats apply with the limited information we have, but this design leaves a lot to be desired. Doesn’t even appear to have the condo components both Dallas and Austin have. I'd definitely take this one over those, quite honestly. And, again, if it's only 15 floors, then I don't think there will be a condo component. But I don't think that this site was ever intended to. I'm somewhat baffled--if this hotel were not the W, would people like it more? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vy65 Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 3 minutes ago, mattyt36 said: I'd definitely take this one over those, quite honestly. Why? Considering this is projected to be shorter and smaller, that makes no sense to me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattyt36 Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 9 minutes ago, Vy65 said: Why? Considering this is projected to be shorter and smaller, that makes no sense to me Well if that’s the sole criteria I guess you should go for that brutalist beauty in Chicago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LBC2HTX Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 Really don’t understand all the tears over the W’s height. It’s on the eastern edge of downtown so it’ll be seen from the east regardless of how tall it is. Moreover, a taller W at this site will just have more guests staring out of their room to the shitty industrial side of Houston. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vy65 Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 11 minutes ago, mattyt36 said: Well if that’s the sole criteria I guess you should go for that brutalist beauty in Chicago. Ahh, good answer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reporter Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 (edited) Blah Blah Blah. You can't rationalize that a W Hotel won't be a welcomed addition to this city no matter what the building design looks like (to you )... or whatever it overlooks. Come on, it's all about the highly sought after 2000's tackiness on the inside, really. It's not about whether or not you like glass or stucco or angles or whatever else they stick on or don't stick on the outside of the building. And anyone concerned about 7 floors more or less is just demonstrating their own personal insecurities, not Houston's. And speaking of the view, one side of the Dallas W overlooks the shitty industrial warehouse district on the west side. But I'm sure the Dallas cheerleaders are happy they have the ugly old goat anyway. Edited February 17, 2018 by Reporter 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vy65 Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 What does being a welcome addition have to do with the mediocre-at-best design? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattyt36 Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 17 minutes ago, Reporter said: Come on, it's all about the highly sought after 2000's tackiness on the inside, really. That has certainly always been my impression of the W. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattyt36 Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 1 minute ago, Vy65 said: What does being a welcome addition have to do with the mediocre-at-best design? I think some of us here might not think it's "mediocre-at-best." Can we start by acknowledging that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reporter Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Vy65 said: What does being a welcome addition have to do with the mediocre-at-best design? What does your opinion of this being a mediocre-at-best design have to do with actual design? Edited February 17, 2018 by Reporter 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vy65 Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 Acknowledge what? I’m not disputing that you or anyone else is entitled to their opinion? What does that have to do with anything. We’re talking about a small glass box put on top of another small glass box. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vy65 Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 (edited) 1 minute ago, Reporter said: Wh What does your opinion of this being a mediocre-at-best design have to do with the actual design? Ummm, a lot. what does it being a welcome addition have to do with the design given? Edited February 17, 2018 by Vy65 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reporter Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 I don't think so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luminare Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 24 minutes ago, Reporter said: Blah Blah Blah. You can't rationalize that a W Hotel won't be a welcomed addition to this city no matter what the building design looks like (to you )... or whatever it overlooks. Come on, it's all about the highly sought after 2000's tackiness on the inside, really. It's not about whether or not you like glass or stucco or angles or whatever else they stick on or don't stick on the outside of the building. And anyone concerned about 7 floors more or less is just demonstrating their own personal insecurities, not Houston's. And speaking of the view, one side of the Dallas W overlooks the shitty industrial warehouse district on the west side. But I'm sure the Dallas cheerleaders are happy they have the ugly old goat anyway. I like this guy haha. Can we get more of you please? I agree. I'm hearing no actual critiques thus far. Just blah blah blah I don't like it. Gotta have a better argument than that right? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattyt36 Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 3 minutes ago, Vy65 said: Acknowledge what? I’m not disputing that you or anyone else is entitled to their opinion? What does that have to do with anything. We’re talking about a small glass box put on top of another small glass box. So thus far your very strong opinion is the design is mediocre-at-best because: -it’s not tall enough -it doesn’t have condos -it’s glass -and it’s rectangular Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reporter Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 6 minutes ago, Vy65 said: what does it being a welcome addition have to do with the design given? It's not just about the design. The design is just fine. Nothing spectacular, but it doesn't need to be. It's all about Houston finally getting a W Hotel. They could stick it in the Embassy Suite building for all I care, it still pretty good news. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luminare Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 10 minutes ago, Vy65 said: What does being a welcome addition have to do with the mediocre-at-best design? I would like to ask, what do you define as mediocre? What is your standard in your hypothetical world that satisfies? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vy65 Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 Just now, mattyt36 said: So thus far your very strong opinion is the design is mediocre-at-best because: -it’s not tall enough -it doesn’t have condos -it’s glass -and it’s rectangular Sure. What in your opinion makes it above average? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vy65 Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 Just now, Reporter said: It's not just about the design. The design is just fine. Nothing spectacular, but it doesn't need to be. It's all about Houston finally getting a W Hotel. They could stick it in the Embassy Suite building for all I care, it still pretty good news. Oh ok. I apologize for expecting something above average. I’ll stick to mediocrity from here on out. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vy65 Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 1 minute ago, Luminare said: I would like to ask, what do you define as mediocre? What is your standard in your hypothetical world that satisfies? Take a look at the rendering and you’ll have a start Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reporter Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 1 minute ago, Vy65 said: Oh ok. I apologize for expecting something above average. I’ll stick to mediocrity from here on out. I'm sure you will. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luminare Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 1 minute ago, Vy65 said: Oh ok. I apologize for expecting something above average. I’ll stick to mediocrity from here on out. 1 minute ago, Vy65 said: Take a look at the rendering and you’ll have a start No you don't get to play this game. I don't read minds and nobody else knows what you prefer. If you don't know then its ok, but you need to bring a point of reference or at least make the effort. Its not about accepting mediocrity. Its about knowing the actual world. We live in the real world. Not your hypothetical world that is to your liking. Especially when we don't know what that world is to begin with. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattyt36 Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 2 minutes ago, Vy65 said: Sure. What in your opinion makes it above average? I don’t have a strong opinion one way or th other. I personally prefer it, though, to the Dallas and Austin examples (or at least don’t think it’s any worse) as I think they look cheap or equally uninspired. You can’t get any more boxy than Austin, no matter how much taller it may be. What recent hotel developments in non-tourist hotspots do you like? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vy65 Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 (edited) 33 minutes ago, Luminare said: No you don't get to play this game. I don't read minds and nobody else knows what you prefer. If you don't know then its ok, but you need to bring a point of reference or at least make the effort. Its not about accepting mediocrity. Its about knowing the actual world. We live in the real world. Not your hypothetical world that is to your liking. Especially when we don't know what that world is to begin with. Its not about accepting mediocrity, but we live in the real world so we should accept mediocrity. got it Edited February 17, 2018 by Vy65 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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