Urbannizer Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 The new owner of 3 adjacent 2-story apartment complexes at the western edge of Winlow Place in Montrose have politely asked all tenants to leave by the end of August. The fifties-and-sixties-era courtyard complexes, at 1920 W. Alabama St. (above), 2810 McDuffie, and 1924 Marshall, were sold by Prestige Holdings at the end of April to a company called City Centre at Midtown, which appears to be connected to apartment developer Dolce Living. The adjacent complexes together include 73 apartments; the 1.58 acres of land they sit on has frontage on West Alabama St. (between Hazard and Huldy, pictured above) and McDuffie St., which dead-ends into a parking lot shared by the McDuffie and Marshall St. properties. According to a tipster, a notice for the abandonment of that dead-end portion of McDuffie St. was posted in February. Admiral Linen’s 3-building complex (behind the Randalls grocery store) at 2030 Kipling St. is immediately adjacent to the properties. According to a notice sent to residents by the property manager, City Centre at Midtown plans to demolish the buildings in September and build new apartments on the site. The same notice informs residents that they must vacate their apartments no later than August 31st, and offers to prorate August rent accordingly. “Thank you for your residency,” the notice reads. “Many of you have made your home at City Centre for a long period of time.” “Longtime residents aren’t finding any consolation in this offer,” a tipster tells Swamplot. “Especially with such short notice. The residents are a demographically diverse group with a wide range of occupations from students to retirees. It’s mostly quiet, peppered with moments of friends laughing it up outside and impromptu music concerts.” The actions of the seller and buyer in preparing for redevelopment “flew under the radar,” according to the tipster. http://swamplot.com/new-owners-to-montrose-apartment-dwellers-everybody-out-by-the-end-of-august-were-tearing-these-places-down/2014-07-28/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mollusk Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 I know they "have the right," but that doesn't make it right when it's just over the minimum 30 days' notice to vacate for people who've been in place for some time. Somehow I doubt that an extra two to four weeks would have killed them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luminare Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 I hope that whatever they build it will be relatively low in rent or just above what was there now. Not everything needs to be super upscale which is probably whats going to go here, but then again if they are already that quick to demo in september it's probably just going to be regular apartments and not a midrise or even townhomes. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jt16 Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 I hope that whatever they build it will be relatively low in rent or just above what was there now. Not everything needs to be super upscale which is probably whats going to go here, but then again if they are already that quick to demo in september it's probably just going to be regular apartments and not a midrise or even townhomes. The only chance of something being low rent in the area was to leave the existing building. The land costs and building costs pretty much prohibit any kind of newer low rent building without some kind of subsidy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triton Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 http://www.click2houston.com/news/montrose-residents-have-mixed-feelings-over-planned-midrise-construction/27235362 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fernz Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 Terrible sidewalk engagement. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZKB9 Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 Looks like another generic faux-historical apartment complex...yay! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howard Huge Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 This is so not in Midtown. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triton Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 Yea I still don't understand why this is considered Midtown. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillip_white Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 Do we finally some Heights-esque Midtown creep?! This is so not in Midtown. Yea I still don't understand why this is considered Midtown. To me this looks like the condos in Miami designed to keep non-residents out. http://www.click2houston.com/news/montrose-residents-have-mixed-feelings-over-planned-midrise-construction/27235362 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avossos Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 Yea I still don't understand why this is considered Midtown. It is not... they just want it to appeal to a crowd looking for that name... or they are very misinformed. This design looks bad, and I am not even concerned about the street stuff. It makes logical sense to put a garage on the bottom floor. It is the stylings that have no integrity to anything and are built to catch a trend. This building wont look great when new, and it will look worse as it ages. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OkieEric Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 I refuse to believe that this will wind up being the name of the complex - it just makes no sense. Typically "Upper Kirby" is the name creep over this particular part of Montrose The LLC was formed October of last year and the sale wasn't until April/May of this year so maybe it was originally formed for another deal that fell through? Anyway, hard to tell much from that "rendering" but I'm impressed with the height of these new complexes (like the Susanne) in the area. Just imagine if the Admiral Linen plot gets developed into a midrise and Read King finally goes vertical on that center at Shepherd and W Alabama. I lived in the area until very recently and W Alabama always made for a nice commute in - I suspect that is changing 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toxtethogrady Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 http://www.click2houston.com/news/montrose-residents-have-mixed-feelings-over-planned-midrise-construction/27235362 Well, that's decidedly underwhelming. No interest in first floor retail? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monarch Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 this looks like a sand storm in dubai, uae. trust me! 2 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timoric Posted August 4, 2014 Share Posted August 4, 2014 (edited) - Edited July 8, 2019 by Timoric 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UtterlyUrban Posted August 4, 2014 Share Posted August 4, 2014 I own a peice of land in Sugar Land. I think I will develop as "WoodLands City Centre."Geez. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urbannizer Posted December 30, 2014 Author Share Posted December 30, 2014 Demolition has begun:http://swamplot.com/across-w-alabama-from-the-icehouse-those-3-2-story-apartment-complexes-are-now-making-way-for-one-6-story-complex/2014-12-30/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H-Town Man Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 One positive benefit of an oil-related recession would be if this were somehow to be left as a vacant piece of dirt, rather than the building in the rendering be built on it. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toxtethogrady Posted December 31, 2014 Share Posted December 31, 2014 You watch: this building will be as orange as the rendering. This seems to be popular with Hispanic-oriented development. Orange is the new black. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skwatra Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 Variance request going forward today. I took this picture last week. I missed this thread and was really confused when I saw 'Midtown'. thought i made a wrong turn on my bike! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andre154 Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 Some renderings from the Planning Commission packet for today. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curbur Posted August 22, 2015 Share Posted August 22, 2015 Is this dead? My balcony looks over this site and there's 3-5 ft shrubs/weeds covering it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigFootsSocks Posted November 10, 2016 Share Posted November 10, 2016 The plat was just filed on the country clerk's website. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AREJAY Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 (edited) Was browsing the proposed cases to the FAA and found crane and building cases for "Millenium at Midtown" (misspelling and all). Likely another 7ish story midrise from the Dinerstien Company. Looks like this will be at 1920 W Alabama where an older 2 story complex stood. I searched and couldn't find another thread on this development, please merge if it already exists. http://swamplot.com/new-owners-to-montrose-apartment-dwellers-everybody-out-by-the-end-of-august-were-tearing-these-places-down/2014-07-28/ https://oeaaa.faa.gov/oeaaa/external/searchAction.jsp?action=displayOECase&oeCaseID=390697467&row=295 https://oeaaa.faa.gov/oeaaa/external/searchAction.jsp?action=displayOECase&oeCaseID=390697478&row=296 Overview Study (ASN): 2018-ASW-17912-OE Prior Study: Status: Work In Progress Received Date: 11/26/2018 Entered Date: 11/26/2018 Map: View Map Construction Info Structure Summary Notice Of: CONSTR Duration: TEMP (Months: 18 Days: 0) Work Schedule: 01/01/2019 to 01/01/2021 Structure Type: Crane Structure Name: Millenium At Midtown FCC Number: Structure Details Height and Elevation Latitude (NAD 83): 29° 44' 19.85" N Longitude (NAD 83): 95° 24' 29.10" W Datum: NAD 83 City: Houston (and vicinity) State: TX Nearest County: Harris Proposed Site Elevation: 51 Structure Height: 160 Total Height (AMSL): 211 Frequencies Low Freq High Freq Unit ERP Unit Overview Study (ASN): 2018-ASW-17911-OE Prior Study: Status: Work In Progress Received Date: 11/26/2018 Entered Date: 11/26/2018 Map: View Map Construction Info Structure Summary Notice Of: CONSTR Duration: PERM (Months: 0 Days: 0) Work Schedule: 12/02/2018 to 08/05/2020 Structure Type: Building Structure Name: Millenium At Midtown FCC Number: Structure Details Height and Elevation Latitude (NAD 83): 29° 44' 19.85" N Longitude (NAD 83): 95° 24' 29.10" W Datum: NAD 83 City: Houston (and vicinity) State: TX Nearest County: Harris Proposed Site Elevation: 51 Structure Height: 91 Total Height (AMSL): 142 Frequencies Low Freq High Freq Unit ERP Unit Edited November 27, 2018 by AREJAY 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cspwal Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 This is nowhere near midtown! GAH 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urbannizer Posted November 27, 2018 Author Share Posted November 27, 2018 Please merge with: https://www.houstonarchitecture.com/haif/topic/30771-city-centre-at-midtown-by-dolce-living/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hindesky Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 This land has been cleared for at least a couple years. Its right across from west Alabama Icehouse and one of the best taco trucks in Houston. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbigtex56 Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 On 7/28/2014 at 2:08 PM, mollusk said: I know they "have the right," but that doesn't make it right when it's just over the minimum 30 days' notice to vacate for people who've been in place for some time. Somehow I doubt that an extra two to four weeks would have killed them. 53 minutes ago, hindesky said: This land has been cleared for at least a couple years. Its right across from west Alabama Icehouse and one of the best taco trucks in Houston. There, in a nutshell, is the story of development, Houston style. Think I'll go to the River Cafe and order a pitcher of sangria to drown my sorrows.... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thatguysly Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 Move out in a month and we won't build for years. Dolce seems to move at a snails pace or slower (and also name their projects "Midtown" when they aren't in Midtown, i.e. West Gray project). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urbannizer Posted July 24, 2019 Author Share Posted July 24, 2019 Yikes, design hasn't changed much from 2014. https://www.luxecrowdfunding.com/portfolio/ Millennium Midtown will consist of 258 “Class A” residential rental units and a 4,000 square foot amenity center when fully completed. It will be situated in the heart of the West sub-market in one of the Houston finest residential neighborhoods. Due to its close proximity to downtown Houston,the developments transportation needs are well met. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HtownWxBoy Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 My old address ... don't miss the bands across the street at the Ice House keeping me awake... lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urbannizer Posted October 8, 2019 Author Share Posted October 8, 2019 Don't think this one is happening anytime soon. Same crowd funding group behind the stalled Regalia at the Park is behind this..their website is now offline. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highrise Tower Posted December 26, 2020 Share Posted December 26, 2020 Property flyer for 1920 Alabama from DMRE. https://dmre.com/properties/ 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
astrohip Posted December 26, 2020 Share Posted December 26, 2020 I love how the flyer shows West U home values up to $10.9M, but poor River Oaks only has home values up to $9.5M. And this is now in Upper Kirby! PS: It's not, UK stops at Shepherd. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilcal Posted March 26, 2022 Share Posted March 26, 2022 On 3/23/2022 at 9:54 PM, CREguy13 said: Can you say 30 floors with ground floor retail.... Hopefully they can get this financed soon with all the economic activity starting to occur in Houston and the high demand for living in this area. Hope the design fits the neighborhood obviously, but wow does Montrose continue to blow up with great height, density and quality of businesses, restaurants. https://verosade.com/projects/ I'm not trying to derail the thread, but is there a thread on the West Alabama project they have listed on their site? 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hindesky Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 (edited) This is the W. Alabama render we saw last week. Across from Tacos Tierra Caliente and next to the future Kipling apartments by Allen Harrison. Architects - https://www.theprestonpartnership.com Edited March 30, 2022 by hindesky 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CREguy13 Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 wow wow wow. This along with AH will be a huge change for the area. The density continues... 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urbannizer Posted March 30, 2022 Author Share Posted March 30, 2022 50 minutes ago, hindesky said: This is the W. Alabama render we saw last week. Across from Tacos Tierra Caliente and next to the future Kipling apartments by Allen Harrison. Architects - https://www.theprestonpartnership.com Just to be clear, this rendering is not the design for their West Alabama project. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hindesky Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 (edited) The reason I think it might be is that Us Living and Vero Sade are connected. The Vero Sade description in their render and the TDLR description are the same. Of course renders rarely are what is built. https://www.us-living.com Edited March 30, 2022 by hindesky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urbannizer Posted March 30, 2022 Author Share Posted March 30, 2022 22 minutes ago, hindesky said: The reason I think it might be is that Us Living and Vero Sade are connected. The Vero Sade description in their render and the TDLR description are the same. Of course renders rarely are what is built. https://www.us-living.com The rendering they used is the backside of their Heights project. I take it we’ll see the real thing closer to construction. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paco Jones Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 Just to add to the confusion... The renderings shown on the Vero Sade website for Heights and W. Alabama are the same renderings and are are for the Heights project. I don't know what the W. Alabama project looks like yet, but perhaps it's similar. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hindesky Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 4 minutes ago, Paco Jones said: Just to add to the confusion... The renderings shown on the Vero Sade website for Heights and W. Alabama are the same renderings and are are for the Heights project. I don't know what the W. Alabama project looks like yet, but perhaps it's similar. Just like the Novare Group who used the same design for all their SkyHouse buildings around the nation. I guess that makes economic sense. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urbannizer Posted March 30, 2022 Author Share Posted March 30, 2022 Designs may be the similar as they share the same architect and number of stories though I doubt it’ll be copy n paste like Novare Group’s Skyhouses- this site is more narrow than the one for The Heights. Preston’s design portfolio is a bit all over the place so who knows. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luminare Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 3 hours ago, hindesky said: The reason I think it might be is that Us Living and Vero Sade are connected. The Vero Sade description in their render and the TDLR description are the same. Of course renders rarely are what is built. https://www.us-living.com I'd have to push back on that last sentence. Its not rare that renders are rarely are what is built, its that renders that don't convey what is possible are rarely built. I also think this forum is a double edge sword in some ways. Its great that laypeople get a chance to see the evolution of projects, but at the same time the first image that's shown is what ends up being their (the average layperson's) vision of the project, and if they don't keep up with the process then by the time something is built and they see it built for the first time since an initial render in predesign then they ask why something doesn't look like the render. The question is, what render? The render from a week before construction only distributed in-house, or the pre-design render or design documentation render that was floated to city council as a one off to clear a hurdle. Big difference. Most projects actually do look like their renders. Sometimes you can gauge a quality of a project by its render, and sometimes you just can't. Especially with rising costs these days, and with improvements to realtime rendering, the client is not going to begin construction unless they see an updated render on the eve of construction. 3 hours ago, Paco Jones said: Just to add to the confusion... The renderings shown on the Vero Sade website for Heights and W. Alabama are the same renderings and are are for the Heights project. I don't know what the W. Alabama project looks like yet, but perhaps it's similar. I think I said this in a previous post, but if Preston is designing both and Us Living is a partner of Vero Sade then it stands to believe that Preston is the architect for both which owns the instruments of service and design copyright for one which could be used for the other (aka why we can have two copies of Skyhouse). I'd imagine the company wants to do multiples and make it known that they are building these as one type of branded theme, scheme, or idea. The sites are very different, and I'm not a fan of duplicate designs even for the same client, but aesthetics can be the same just the forms would have to be adjusted. I haven't seen anything in the Heights renders that tells me that that design is so specific to the Heights that it can't be transferred over. It certainly can be done. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Paco Jones Posted March 31, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted March 31, 2022 14 hours ago, Luminare said: I think I said this in a previous post, but if Preston is designing both and Us Living is a partner of Vero Sade then it stands to believe that Preston is the architect for both which owns the instruments of service and design copyright for one which could be used for the other (aka why we can have two copies of Skyhouse). I'd imagine the company wants to do multiples and make it known that they are building these as one type of branded theme, scheme, or idea. The sites are very different, and I'm not a fan of duplicate designs even for the same client, but aesthetics can be the same just the forms would have to be adjusted. I haven't seen anything in the Heights renders that tells me that that design is so specific to the Heights that it can't be transferred over. It certainly can be done. Hello and thank you for your reply. You make very good points and I don't disagree with you. I would like to add some clarification, though. The renderings that I shared for the Heights project are true to the Heights project itself. They are part of the DD drawings (5th progressive set) and are reflective of the Architectural and Structural plan sets. I thought this information might be helpful so that others would know that the renderings were not found by themselves somewhere and are part of the construction documents. It is very possible that the renderings could be used as a basis of design for future developments, though. There are a few additional elevations for the Heights project that are provided as cost saving alternate pricing deductions to the base construction cost (and schedule). So it would make sense to start with a base conception for future developments and then simply make changes on the overall building to accommodate the site and location. It would give the developer a good price point to work with when establishing the overall cost budget Thank you. 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hindesky Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 Core drilling. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luminare Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 1 hour ago, Paco Jones said: Hello and thank you for your reply. You make very good points and I don't disagree with you. I would like to add some clarification, though. The renderings that I shared for the Heights project are true to the Heights project itself. They are part of the DD drawings (5th progressive set) and are reflective of the Architectural and Structural plan sets. I thought this information might be helpful so that others would know that the renderings were not found by themselves somewhere and are part of the construction documents. It is very possible that the renderings could be used as a basis of design for future developments, though. There are a few additional elevations for the Heights project that are provided as cost saving alternate pricing deductions to the base construction cost (and schedule). So it would make sense to start with a base conception for future developments and then simply make changes on the overall building to accommodate the site and location. It would give the developer a good price point to work with when establishing the overall cost budget Thank you. That all makes sense to me. Good clarification on your part. Definitely the Heights project was developed first, and probably during discussions they said, we like this project hey by the way we have this other property that we would like to develop as well. Can we use this as a base for the next project? This happens a lot. In fact I'm currently working on a project where we are taking a basic apartment layout from a previous job and moving it to another job, but just doing a reskin. It is what it is. If a form or aesthetic works and is profitable then its something worth repeating. Alexan, Pearl, Hanover do this as well. Its just how the market works especially when margins are tight, but you want to pump out a lot of units and projects. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hindesky Posted April 1, 2022 Share Posted April 1, 2022 I think this front end loader operator was getting tacos at Tierra Caliente and was actually from the S. Shepherd street construction. I also saw a pick up from an inspection company parked on site. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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hindesky Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 More core drilling on site, talked to one of the workers filling up his water truck down the street. He didn't know what was being built so I told him. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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