Houston19514 Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 (edited) No. You are not confused. (Except perhaps the 29 story part) An affiliate of Hilcorp owns the property. Rumor was that Hilcorp had shown its employees renderings of a "regular looking office building over 20 stories high." We were also told here that it would be 23 stories, elliptical shaped. Take the rumors for what they are worth. ;-) Edited August 21, 2013 by Houston19514 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jt16 Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 It's owned by hildebrand ventures, whose owner also owns rapidly growing Hilcorp Energy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloud713 Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 No. You are not confused. (Except perhaps the 29 story part) An affiliate of Hilcorp owns the property. Rumor was that Hilcorp had shown its employees renderings of a "regular looking office building over 20 stories high." We were also told here that it would be 23 stories, elliptical shaped. Take the rumors for what they are worth. ;-) oh yeah, thats the same one im talking about. the design sounds intriguing but i wish the height was a bit taller. ah well, hopefully it will be a gem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KinkaidAlum Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 Maybe downtown will get a River Oaks Donut! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatesdisastr Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 Maybe downtown will get a River Oaks Donut! Not to get off topic but their blueberry donuts are crazy delish. Okay now back to our regularly scheduled topic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triton Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 Where's a good viewing angle for this demo? Again, this demo is occurring sometime around 5 or 6am? I want to be there when it happens... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naviguessor Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 Biznow mentioned today that Hines may be involved in this project. Is this true or has it been previously discussed? That's got to be a good thing. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triton Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 Sooooo.... Houston Greenstreet it is?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TowerSpotter Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 Biznow mentioned today that Hines may be involved in this project. Is this true or has it been previously discussed? That's got to be a good thing. I just read the whole thing earlier today and re-read again but don't see anything about Hines being involved with Macy's redevelopment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaggieMay Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 (edited) Where's a good viewing angle for this demo? Again, this demo is occurring sometime around 5 or 6am? I want to be there when it happens... I doubt there will be a good viewing angle with public access. The "perimeter" will no doubt be published before the event, but everybody will be kept a block or two away. There will be highrises a few blocks away with good views; those who work in those buildings & have weekend access might get lucky. Still, not for the public. With luck, there will be a camera (or cameras) for internet viewing. But you'll be able to hear it..... The fluctuating rumors on what will replace the store really irritate me. It was doing business well enough & was only closed by the landlords. If the land stays empty for long or becomes a parking lot, I will be miffed. Especially because I wait for light rail 5 mornings a week, right between the deconstructed Foley's & the empty monument to Bobby Sakowitz's bad decisions.... Edited August 22, 2013 by MaggieMay 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arrodiii Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 The "perimeter" will no doubt be published before the event, but everybody will be kept a block or two away.They have already published what the perimeter will be: http://swamplot.com/metro-taking-cover-now-that-macys-implosions-impending/2013-08-15/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naviguessor Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 I just read the whole thing earlier today and re-read again but don't see anything about Hines being involved with Macy's redevelopment. Oops, Tower. Your right. It wasn't mentioned in Bisnow. However, is was referenced in HBJ. Qte: Unconfirmed reports suggest Houston-based developer Hines may be involved with the next structure on the site. However, the company would not comment either way on the subject. Unqte: Link: http://www.bizjournals.com/houston/blog/breaking-ground/2013/08/officials-developers-remain-quiet-on.html Thanks for fact checking me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TowerSpotter Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 (edited) Oops, Tower. Your right. It wasn't mentioned in Bisnow. However, is was referenced in HBJ. Qte:Unconfirmed reports suggest Houston-based developer Hines may be involved with the next structure on the site. However, the company would not comment either way on the subject.Unqte: Link: http://www.bizjournals.com/houston/blog/breaking-ground/2013/08/officials-developers-remain-quiet-on.html Thanks for fact checking me. haha, that explains that. Anyways Bisnow says there is a rumor that a Class-A office building would replace Macys, maybe your right Naviguessor, Hine's might be involved. http://www.bisnow.com/commercial-real-estate/houston/four-ways-to-backfill-retail/ "Demolition and redevelopment is especially likely inside the Loop. The biggest example now is the former Macy's Downtown. It added 791k SF of vacancy to the market in Q1, but now it's being torn down. (Rumors say it's being developed into a Class-A office building, but no one's confirming it.) Randy points out it doesn't have to become a new use; consider BLVD Place's redevelopment." Edited August 22, 2013 by TowerSpotter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houston19514 Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 Biznow mentioned today that Hines may be involved in this project. Is this true or has it been previously discussed? That's got to be a good thing. Sadly, Hines' "involvement" in no way guarantees a good project. They were involved with the hideous new parking garage on Main Street just a few years ago. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naviguessor Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 Nope. Never any guarantees. However, over all, Hines' track record is hard to beat. In Houston, anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houston19514 Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 ^ Agreed, when it's Hines' project and they are the owner and developer. But when they are just "involved" (i.e. being project manager), they have no control of the design quality and all bets are off. Having said that, from what we've heard out of Hilcorp (which isn't much I admit), I think we can expect a quality project. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triton Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 Well whoops! I drove down there at 6am thinking it was this morning. I was really confused when I saw a woman with a stroller walking next to the building and then the light rail passing it by like nothing... Thought the date was August 22nd. September 22nd makes more sense though since it's a Sunday morning rather than a work day. Either way, good thing I only live 5 minutes away so it wasn't as humiliating. hahah! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatesdisastr Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 Well whoops! I drove down there at 6am thinking it was this morning. I was really confused when I saw a woman with a stroller walking next to the building and then the light rail passing it by like nothing... Thought the date was August 22nd. September 22nd makes more sense though since it's a Sunday morning rather than a work day. Either way, good thing I only live 5 minutes away so it wasn't as humiliating. hahah! Haha I certainly know that I appreciate you sharing your humiliation and embarrassment with us. It sounds like something I would do sadly as well. Gave me a good laugh. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tumbleweed_Tx Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 I have been scouting locations for my 'And Boom Goes The Dynamite" party being held on that morning. the ONLY good place to see it is... ooh.... ack.... I think I'm having cardia.... accc... choke..... (sorry, can't tell.. I'm ok...lol) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rsb320 Posted August 28, 2013 Share Posted August 28, 2013 It looks like it has been wired with explosives. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tumbleweed_Tx Posted August 29, 2013 Share Posted August 29, 2013 24 days until 'and boom goes the dynamite' 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoustonMidtown Posted August 29, 2013 Share Posted August 29, 2013 24 days until 'and boom goes the dynamite' LOL @ Cleveland !! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
infinite_jim Posted September 11, 2013 Share Posted September 11, 2013 Demo of the exterior overhangs is in full swing now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jax Posted September 12, 2013 Share Posted September 12, 2013 Today on my way home from work at the Metro station. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triton Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 And we still don't have a rendering of the building replacing it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_cuevas713 Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 Im sure they will come sure enough but its still tough to see this go. The good thing is that it can only get better not worse. Nothing is worse than a parking lot. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urbannizer Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 9/12 by the Houston Chronicle 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subdude Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 Im sure they will come sure enough but its still tough to see this go. The good thing is that it can only get better not worse. Nothing is worse than a parking lot. This is the potential downtown development that I worry about the most, and the lack of renderings or any detail on their plans doesn't give me any confidence. Any downturn in the economy and we can expect a lot of plans to be scuttled "temporarily" in favor of surface parking. That is what happened on the adjacent block (now Reliant). Same thing on the block that was supposed to have held the Bank of the Southwest tower. The existing structure was torn down and never replaced. If they don't develop something a surface lot will harm any plans to develop Dallas St as a retail "district". 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate99 Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 Interesting looking at the Travis St. side. You will notice that they have cables threaded through the wall, I'm guessing that they are providing some tension inward so it will collapse in to itself once the BOOM happens. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_cuevas713 Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 This is the potential downtown development that I worry about the most, and the lack of renderings or any detail on their plans doesn't give me any confidence. Any downturn in the economy and we can expect a lot of plans to be scuttled "temporarily" in favor of surface parking. That is what happened on the adjacent block (now Reliant). Same thing on the block that was supposed to have held the Bank of the Southwest tower. The existing structure was torn down and never replaced.If they don't develop something a surface lot will harm any plans to develop Dallas St as a retail "district".You make a very solid point which I agree with. The only optimism I hold on to is how fast developers are jumping on starting new projects. Its at such a feverish pace that I personally believe we could hear somethibg as soon as this is torn down. Its a prime piece of real estate. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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