Marcus Allen Posted May 26, 2014 Share Posted May 26, 2014 YIKES! one can only pray as per the good man above.. that both of these mixed use concepts, may in fact produce better forthcoming / updated / modern renderings. imo, both of the prospective designs harken back to the (80's) when i was still in high school. the hotel concept, is foreboding, dull, way to much earth tones, albeit browns, darkness everywhere... i could only imagine just what a visitor from new york, dubai, london, or anywhere upon this great earth.. would think of staying there overnight. the only thing upon my opinion that is altogether enlightening... is it's proposed 36 floor height factor. any proposed edifice in houston that is close to 40 floors.. would certainly entertain my vote of confidence.I like the second one, but YES, it looks like it belongs with the former Enron collection. LoLthe tower concept, is a very haphazard design to say the very least. just what in the world was the architectural firm thinking vs dreaming? again dark, old, foreboding, it's as if they took one of the enron buildings from downtown.. and started to butcher it like crazy, until they realized their mistake. then they decided to try and piece it back together again. i guess, something along the lines of "humpty ENRON dumpty". i guess we could call it that!midway cos, has become the new essential, as per design innovation as per the city of houston. i for one, could just only imagine what midway cos., could do with this piece of prime real estate upon post oak. it would be such.. that only dreams are indeed made of. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcus Allen Posted May 26, 2014 Share Posted May 26, 2014 Ooops, monarch, I agree that the second one looks like it belongs with the former Enron collection. loL. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swtsig Posted May 31, 2014 Share Posted May 31, 2014 Latest word is late 3rd qtr groundbreaking, going spec. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avossos Posted May 31, 2014 Share Posted May 31, 2014 What do you mean "going spec" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigFootsSocks Posted May 31, 2014 Share Posted May 31, 2014 ^Going up with no tenants signed yet 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fernz Posted June 1, 2014 Share Posted June 1, 2014 For the office tower...when is the multi family going up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigFootsSocks Posted June 1, 2014 Share Posted June 1, 2014 They've already started removing the sidewalks around the property so probably soonish. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urbannizer Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 It looks like the project is undergoing a change in design, they've removed most of the previous renderings and added these: http://trccp.com/ 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fernz Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 Is it really a change, or are we just looking at a side we hadn't seen before? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luminare Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 At first glance it doesn't look like it's a redesign, but in fact there are definitely some changes. Most of these seem to be in front of the building and how the building addresses the street condition. Before I point out what the differences are though. I would say that for once the redesign is actually better than what was before which hasn't been the case lately. First look at both pics old and new. I really don't have the time to do all this stuff as I literally just arrived at work and this is usually 'catch up on the news' part of my morning. If someone would like to make a post with the old and new back to back that would be great Once you look at the bottom fronts of the old and new the changes will be more apparent. The old one had a very awkward front facing the street. For one it didn't really acknowledge the street. instead whoever is designing this thought that it would be cool to throw in what I have termed "the glass sandwich" and stuck it on the side and said 'oh look at me I'm a clever designer and I'm current with the architecture of the time. All done'. This approach to the building seemed like an after thought, and if you look at the new image you can see that clearly an attempt was made to better this part of the design. It's not perfect, but it very much succeeds where the other didn't. So what about the new entrance? Probably the most striking is it's massing and geometry. Instead of an enormous vertical edge right from the sidewalk. It seems they moved the building back a bit and elongated the entrance to create a sort of stair step effect. Now you have an entrance that is more at a human/streetlevel scale. I'm also glad they redid the goofy 'glass sandwich'. The entrance simply has more variety. From what it looks like the majority of the building looks the same. Most of the same materials are still there as a whole. The overall look is still the same. I think we all want to take a look at the other side to really confirm that it really hasn't changed. I make my deduction of this from the garage. It literally is the same form and same material usage as it was before. Thankfully it looks like they are keeping the office from before as well, but I'm sure there are some minor tweaks in that one too. All in all it's actually a more mature design and they actually resolved a problem that I saw in the original. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloud713 Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 (edited) At first glance it doesn't look like it's a redesign, but in fact there are definitely some changes. Most of these seem to be in front of the building and how the building addresses the street condition. Before I point out what the differences are though. I would say that for once the redesign is actually better than what was before which hasn't been the case lately. First look at both pics old and new. I really don't have the time to do all this stuff as I literally just arrived at work and this is usually 'catch up on the news' part of my morning. If someone would like to make a post with the old and new back to back that would be great Once you look at the bottom fronts of the old and new the changes will be more apparent. The old one had a very awkward front facing the street. For one it didn't really acknowledge the street. instead whoever is designing this thought that it would be cool to throw in what I have termed "the glass sandwich" and stuck it on the side and said 'oh look at me I'm a clever designer and I'm current with the architecture of the time. All done'. This approach to the building seemed like an after thought, and if you look at the new image you can see that clearly an attempt was made to better this part of the design. It's not perfect, but it very much succeeds where the other didn't. So what about the new entrance? Probably the most striking is it's massing and geometry. Instead of an enormous vertical edge right from the sidewalk. It seems they moved the building back a bit and elongated the entrance to create a sort of stair step effect. Now you have an entrance that is more at a human/streetlevel scale. I'm also glad they redid the goofy 'glass sandwich'. The entrance simply has more variety. From what it looks like the majority of the building looks the same. Most of the same materials are still there as a whole. The overall look is still the same. I think we all want to take a look at the other side to really confirm that it really hasn't changed. I make my deduction of this from the garage. It literally is the same form and same material usage as it was before. Thankfully it looks like they are keeping the office from before as well, but I'm sure there are some minor tweaks in that one too. All in all it's actually a more mature design and they actually resolved a problem that I saw in the original. youre right.. that BLVD Place style front is now gone, and it does look like it interacts better with the street/pedestrian activity. glad the office building didnt appear to change, and they kept most of this the same."Pulled" these from the site.. Looks like the office tower is unchanged! Edited July 9, 2014 by cloud713 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luminare Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 youre right.. that BLVD Place style front is now gone, and it does look like it interacts better with the street/pedestrian activity. glad the office building didnt appear to change, and they kept most of this the same. "Pulled" these from the site.. Looks like the office tower is unchanged! Danke schoen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montrose1100 Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 I find it a shame the residential tower lost it's curvy glass facade. While it doesn't look too bad, I just hope the color comes out darker brown than the super light BBVA beige. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luminare Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 it still has its curve. Just look closer 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sky-guy Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 Looks like Miami. Especially the first one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lockmat Posted July 9, 2014 Author Share Posted July 9, 2014 it still has its curve. Just look closer The curve is on the south side isn't it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityliving Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 That tower looks similar to the Hanover project in Montrose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monarch Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 (edited) NOW WE'RE TALKING! the hotel concept, reminds me of a snake that has gone through it's natural metamorphosis. new skin, fresh new outlook upon life. heck, i think that i would enjoy lodging here at some point. both edifice concepts now look fresh, fun, and ready for tenants / residences. build them.. and we shall arrive! Edited July 9, 2014 by monarch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
treblelino Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 (edited) Another box that resembles the boxes they're about to erect downtown. I like the original rendering more. Edited July 9, 2014 by treblelino Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texasota Posted July 10, 2014 Share Posted July 10, 2014 NOW WE'RE TALKING! the hotel concept, reminds me of a snake that has gone through it's natural metamorphosis. new skin, fresh new outlook upon life. heck, i think that i would enjoy lodging here at some point. both edifice concepts now look fresh, fun, and ready for tenants / residences. build them.. and we shall arrive! snakes... metamorphose? I hate to think what they must turn into (and I actually like snakes) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mab Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 any update on this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloud713 Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 My buddies father said they were bidding on the project? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luminare Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 If they are bidding on this now then expect construction to start later this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fernz Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 I was told that project is over budget due to construction costs going up. Sounded like design and/or scope might need to change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triton Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 I was told that project is over budget due to construction costs going up. Sounded like design and/or scope might need to change.What? Where is that from? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swtsig Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 construction costs are messing with a lot of projects right now... it's a huge concern. if you got it priced 6 months ago you're probably off by 10% now. that will kill a deal fast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nativehoustonion Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 I went to the Hilton Americas for breakfast yesterday and all the developers were there. They said we will crash in 2016. For $89 a cold egg wrap, it suck! They said the 609 Main building is the best project and will be a icon for Houston. Nothing said on Chevron getting concern if they will not build it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
houstontexasjack Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 Chevron pushed the start date for its tower back to 2016 awhile ago. I see no reason for them to need to hype it up so long before groundbreaking. More troubling is the sudden rise in construction costs. I recall a recent article discussing that guards are being posted at certain sites to avoid poaching workers. I would love to see this project in its current form, but with the mass of new office space under construction and the shadow of the 1980's oil bust looming in the memories of many developers, I can just as easily understand cutting back on the size (and thus the costs of the project). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nativehoustonion Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 You are right, Chevron should have started construction the original date. I have a bad feeling about it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rechlin Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 If Chevron had started on the original date, they'd be paying for the workers now at the peak of costs. Perhaps they are the smart ones -- if the "crash" happens, then construction labor will certainly become much cheaper if they start in 2016. My parents ran into this, too. They are building a house (almost done), and for various reasons the construction took far longer than expected (currently at 17 months), and partially due to rising costs, it's over 40% over budget. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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