Subdude Posted October 7, 2014 Author Share Posted October 7, 2014 If the Elmiraj concept was built, it would've carried the Eldorado name with pride. With this new nomenclature scheme at Caddy, most of their vehicles will adopt a CTx scheme for new names in the next few years, with x being a number. The ATS and CTS will change into something like CT1 and CT2, but the Escalade will keep its name. I'm not sure I see how it's a big improvement over their current names but whatever. Maybe the idea is to denote the sales price hierarchy. I think that Mercedes is also about to change their naming system. Here is the new XE, Jaguar's latest attempt to compete against the 3-Series or 4-Series or whatever it is now. To me it looks just like the small Volvo. These luxury manufacturers might do better not to copy each other so much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoustonMidtown Posted October 7, 2014 Share Posted October 7, 2014 I like the new baby Jag....I see a lot of 3-series in the side profile...Im not sold on the interior yet, I will need to see it in person, it looks a bit plain....the materials will really have to be top notch... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoustonMidtown Posted October 7, 2014 Share Posted October 7, 2014 Dangit. It's right up there with the Infiniti Qwhateverthehellitis. I've been driving cars with numbers on the trunk lid for years (and as they have always had). I recall when "tii" meant Touring International (the speed kit) Injected (an even more serious speed kit). Frankly, I'm a bit annoyed that they keep putting "i" on the end. Injection quit being special when I was a lot younger and skinnier. ...and the numbers now aren't even based on engine size like they used to be....just an arbitrary number to show rank amongst their siblings.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLWM8609 Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 ...and the numbers now aren't even based on engine size like they used to be....just an arbitrary number to show rank amongst their siblings.... Up until the early 90s, Mercedes-Benz used a relatively straightforward scheme based on engine size and vehicle body for their models. There were a few instances where the model number didn't match the engine size, but they fixed that by putting the engine displacement on the trunklid opposite of the model number. For example, there was the 300E 2.6, 190D 2.5 Turbo, 280SEL 4.5, and the 450SEL 6.9. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoustonMidtown Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 (edited) Up until the early 90s, Mercedes-Benz used a relatively straightforward scheme based on engine size and vehicle body for their models. There were a few instances where the model number didn't match the engine size, but they fixed that by putting the engine displacement on the trunklid opposite of the model number. For example, there was the 300E 2.6, 190D 2.5 Turbo, 280SEL 4.5, and the 450SEL 6.9. BMW did a similar naming scheme until recently....I guess as the engines have been getting smaller (albeit more powerful with turbos and such) they didn't want their model numbers going down....mostly doesn't matter to the normal buying public who buy based on the badge on the hood and couldn't care a less what the model name/number is on the trunk. BMW is updating their 3-series shortly with new engines....the 328 will be called 330 (with a 2.0l engine) and the 335 will become the 340 (still with a 3.0l).... Edited October 8, 2014 by HoustonMidtown 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subdude Posted October 8, 2014 Author Share Posted October 8, 2014 So what once represented the engine displacement isn't terribly meaningful now, even less so with hybrids and electrics, so moving to pure hierarchical names, such as Infiniti has done and Cadillac will do, probably makes some sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLWM8609 Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 (edited) BMW did a similar naming scheme until recently....I guess as the engines have been getting smaller (albeit more powerful with turbos and such) they didn't want their model numbers going down....mostly doesn't matter to the normal buying public who buy based on the badge on the hood and couldn't care a less what the model name/number is on the trunk. BMW is updating their 3-series shortly with new engines....the 328 will be called 330 (with a 2.0l engine) and the 335 will become the 340 (still with a 3.0l).... MB threw its naming convention out with one of its newer models.The new CLA45 AMG's model number refers to the 450 newton meters of torque that the twin-scroll turbocharged 2.0L 4 banger (which is not a tuned version of the 2.0L I4 engine found in its non AMG brother) puts out. Edited October 9, 2014 by JLWM8609 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoustonMidtown Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 MB threw its naming convention out with one of its newer models.The new CLA45 AMG's model number refers to the 450 newton meters of torque that the twin-scroll turbocharged 2.0L 4 banger (which is not a tuned version of the 2.0L I4 engine found in its non AMG brother) puts out. I wondered where they came up with the "45".....interesting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samagon Posted October 9, 2014 Share Posted October 9, 2014 BMW hasn't followed their naming scheme for years, almost decades. For someone who appreciates their heritage, it's sad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLWM8609 Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 (edited) So, now Cadillac says the CT6 won't be their flagship after all. The CT8 or CT9 will come out around 2020. Then, a Cruze based model positioned below the ATS will be coming out in 2017. Sounds like the Cimarron all over again. http://jalopnik.com/cadillacs-real-flagship-isnt-coming-until-the-end-of-th-1644985358?utm_campaign=socialflow_jalopnik_facebook&utm_source=jalopnik_facebook&utm_medium=socialflow Edited October 10, 2014 by JLWM8609 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samagon Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 cimarron, catera, they are destined to continue making the same mistakes. I'm not entirely sure who makes these decisions, and in what world they can possibly conceive that it's a good idea. Okay guys, the cadillac brand is starting to be seen as a good brand again, let's dump some poop on them and see if they even notice! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subdude Posted October 13, 2014 Author Share Posted October 13, 2014 So, now Cadillac says the CT6 won't be their flagship after all. The CT8 or CT9 will come out around 2020. Then, a Cruze based model positioned below the ATS will be coming out in 2017. Sounds like the Cimarron all over again. http://jalopnik.com/cadillacs-real-flagship-isnt-coming-until-the-end-of-th-1644985358?utm_campaign=socialflow_jalopnik_facebook&utm_source=jalopnik_facebook&utm_medium=socialflow Well in general there has been a huge increase in the number of models that each luxury manufacturer feels they need to carry, so I assume Cadillac feels they have to expand their range to compete. They're in a tough spot though, given how Cadillac sales have dropped so much recently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLWM8609 Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 I'm surprised nobody mentioned the recent passing of Tom Magliozzi, especially since this thread shares the same name of Tom and Ray's legendary radio show.http://www.npr.org/2014/11/03/357428287/tom-magliozzi-popular-co-host-of-nprs-car-talk-dies-at-77?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=npr&utm_term=nprnews&utm_content=202503 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fringe Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 Always loved their show. He will be missed. I'm surprised nobody mentioned the recent passing of Tom Magliozzi, especially since this thread shares the same name of Tom and Ray's legendary radio show.http://www.npr.org/2014/11/03/357428287/tom-magliozzi-popular-co-host-of-nprs-car-talk-dies-at-77?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=npr&utm_term=nprnews&utm_content=202503 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkultra25 Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoustonMidtown Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 (edited) 2016 ATS-V (455hp!) Edited November 19, 2014 by HoustonMidtown Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLWM8609 Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 Drooling.... http://jalopnik.com/maybach-is-back-meet-the-200-000-mercedes-maybach-s-1660559741 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subdude Posted December 10, 2014 Author Share Posted December 10, 2014 Drooling.... http://jalopnik.com/maybach-is-back-meet-the-200-000-mercedes-maybach-s-1660559741 I like the little leather-stitched throw pillows for the passenger seats. What next? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoustonMidtown Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 Mercedes GLE 450 AMG -- the Mercedes answer to the BMW X4 and X6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subdude Posted December 10, 2014 Author Share Posted December 10, 2014 Mercedes GLE 450 AMG -- the Mercedes answer to the BMW X4 and X6 14c1269_066-548813eb51e32.jpg The answer to a question nobody asked. I mean seriously, does Mercedes really need this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoustonMidtown Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 (edited) The answer to a question nobody asked. I mean seriously, does Mercedes really need this? Supposedly BMW makes money on their X6 (so they now also have an X4) so I guess MB said we want a slice of that very small pie...I personally find them ugly and a waste of money....less room and less function than their SUV counterpart, but more money.....and calling it a "coupe" ?? Edited December 10, 2014 by HoustonMidtown Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samagon Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 I think they're not calling it a coupe, but a coopay, so it doesn't matter how many doors it has. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subdude Posted December 10, 2014 Author Share Posted December 10, 2014 BMW might well make money on the X6, as they might make money selling drugs or contract killing, but it still doesn't make it right. Unfortunately Audi is planning something much the same, so that poseurs might have yet more choices. Btw, while BMW gets the credit (blame) for these things, the true originator was the 2005 Ssangyong Actyon and arguably, the Pontiac Aztek. Strange fruit indeed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 Not the Aztek. It's so ugly it hurts my eyes! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoustonMidtown Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 2016 Cadillac CTS-V (640hp !!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLWM8609 Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 Buick unveiled two cars this week. One is a RWD concept, the other is a production vehicle that's basically an Opel with Buick logos. 2016 Buick Cascada (known as the Opel Cascada elsewhere) http://jalopnik.com/2016-buick-cascada-this-is-it-1678788536 Buick Avenir Concept http://jalopnik.com/buick-avenir-concept-the-gorgeous-rwd-buick-weve-been-1678872596 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LTAWACS Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 Not a bad looking Buick. Hope it makes it market as is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mollusk Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 Do take the time to pop on over to the Jalopnik link. It has a... somewhat jaded view of this fine successor to the Nissan Murano CrossCabriolet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLWM8609 Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 The Cadillac CT6 will make its debut on March 31. Sounds good on paper. I hope I won't be underwhelmed when it finally makes it appearance.http://jalopnik.com/the-twin-turbo-hybrid-cadillac-ct6-flagship-will-debut-1681094358 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLWM8609 Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 The 2016 Cadillac CT6 made its first appearance in a commercial during the Oscars pre-show tonight.http://jalopnik.com/cadillac-ct6-this-is-it-1687358640 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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