Nate99 Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cspwal Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 Going off that - maybe it will be a mattress firm. Downtown is horribly underserved by Montrose standards, as there isn't a store every 3 blocks 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigFootsSocks Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 Lovett? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigFootsSocks Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 (edited) . Edited January 8, 2016 by BigFootsSocks 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mab Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 I would love hines to be the developer but I wouldn't be surprised if the city picked Midway. With Greenstreet being next door it would be a perfect opportunity to expand Greenstreet. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urbannizer Posted January 13, 2017 Author Share Posted January 13, 2017 Pg 13. http://www.downtowntirz.com/downtownhouston/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/FS-2016-Main-Street-Market-Square-final-report-UPDATED.pdf The Authority issued a Request for Qualifications (RFQ) for the development of 1111 Main and 1010 Lamar as part of the Shopping District series of projects beginning in fiscal year 2015. The project is still in early development and if it is successful and a mixed‐use project is developed on the site, the Authority anticipates that public incentives may be needed to achieve a significant soft goods retail component in the project in fulfillment of the directives from the Mayor’s Retail Task Force. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate99 Posted January 13, 2017 Share Posted January 13, 2017 4 minutes ago, Urbannizer said: Pg 13. http://www.downtowntirz.com/downtownhouston/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/FS-2016-Main-Street-Market-Square-final-report-UPDATED.pdf On 6/17/2015 at 0:13 PM, H-Town Man said: And it's gonna take money A whole lot of public money It's gonna take plenty of money To do it right... Paraphrasing George Harrison. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H-Town Man Posted January 13, 2017 Share Posted January 13, 2017 (edited) Translation: We, the city of Houston, want badly to see fancy retail in the 1100 block of Main, but we don't want it badly enough to actually shop there to the extent that the economics will work. So we will pay tax money to any retailer who will set up there, to make up for the lack of money we will pay shopping at the store. If it's tax reductions to jump start retail as happened with the DLI, then I can be for it. That would be consistent, and the DLI did its job. Still a little icky though. Edited January 13, 2017 by H-Town Man 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CREguy13 Posted January 13, 2017 Share Posted January 13, 2017 I'm okay with letting this sit for the time being. I'd like to see the natural progression with a few years after all these high-end residential units coming online. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post HoustonIsHome Posted January 13, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted January 13, 2017 Downtown foot traffic has picked up, while the homeless population in that spot has gone down. There is still no big draw to Main Street Square though. Forever 21 is ok, but not enough. The Park Shops and Greenstreet are too inward facing. As far as department stores go are they still popular? I'm not sure what it's going to take to Jumpstart retail but I think it has to be visual. People need to be able to see in. I think low end retail would work wonders here for now. Lower end than even Macy's. With the Galleria, ROD, Highland Village, River Oaks and Rice Village all in close proximity I don't see much high end coming to downtown soon. Don't laugh but I would put in Ross, Marshalls, Target, a general goods store, a Houston souvenir shop, A sports merchandise shop, a smoke shop, Petsmart, expand that CVS, bring in an urban version of Specs, throw in some restaurants, bars and about a dozen lower end retailers such as Rainbow, Old Navy, Bath and Body works, Lids, Sephora. That will keep the nearby residents interested. Once the crowds become regular we can step up the game. I do think we may need something like a Williams Sonoma soon. Something with home goods 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KinkaidAlum Posted January 14, 2017 Share Posted January 14, 2017 Downtown Hobart, Tasmania has a freaking Target and it's a ghost town after dark. It's in the pedestrian mall about 8 blocks up from the waterfront. A Target would make bank in downtown Houston. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subdude Posted January 14, 2017 Share Posted January 14, 2017 Something like Target is the only thing I can see working. The days of the old-style department stores are quickly drawing to a close. I wouldn't want to pay incentives to support a business model that is going away. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post dml423 Posted January 14, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted January 14, 2017 Agreed. A City Target like the one in portland would do really well. This would be perfect in the old Sakowitz building. 14 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post HoustonIsHome Posted January 14, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted January 14, 2017 That is beautiful. Two things downtown is severely lacking. Windows and lights. These storefronts make so much of a difference in terms of warmth. These blanks walls on all these buildings give disgustingly that cold, sterile, soul-less feel 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enriquewx91 Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 On 1/13/2017 at 6:47 PM, HoustonIsHome said: Downtown foot traffic has picked up, while the homeless population in that spot has gone down. There is still no big draw to Main Street Square though. Forever 21 is ok, but not enough. The Park Shops and Greenstreet are too inward facing. As far as department stores go are they still popular? I'm not sure what it's going to take to Jumpstart retail but I think it has to be visual. People need to be able to see in. I think low end retail would work wonders here for now. Lower end than even Macy's. With the Galleria, ROD, Highland Village, River Oaks and Rice Village all in close proximity I don't see much high end coming to downtown soon. Don't laugh but I would put in Ross, Marshalls, Target, a general goods store, a Houston souvenir shop, A sports merchandise shop, a smoke shop, Petsmart, expand that CVS, bring in an urban version of Specs, throw in some restaurants, bars and about a dozen lower end retailers such as Rainbow, Old Navy, Bath and Body works, Lids, Sephora. That will keep the nearby residents interested. Once the crowds become regular we can step up the game. I do think we may need something like a Williams Sonoma soon. Something with home goods Low end stores like Ross, Marshalls, etc. have worked great in other cities. Nashville, Chicago I know that Houston isn't a Chicago but it'll be a start. We would just need the foot traffic. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloud713 Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 I may be ignorant on the matter, but I don't see low end stores working for downtown. Unless you're catering to the homeless population, like Main Street Market, I don't see the clientele for low end retail being in downtown. All those new apartment buildings have rents starting at like $1500 for a studio. I'm not saying everything needs to be upscale luxury, but I just have a hard time seeing very much low end retail working in downtown. Especially given the rents/profit margins needed to make money. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UtterlyUrban Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 (edited) A target or a tjmax would be teaming with office workers everyday. "Low end" retail does not mean that "upscale and wealthy" shoppers don't go there. Said another way, Engineers earning $125k don't all shop at Nordstrom and crate and barrel exclusively. Edited January 17, 2017 by UtterlyUrban 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chi-Char-Hou-Dal Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 What the mole people want is a DRESS BARN !! Tatget would be cool, it would be nice to speed up the eventual natural progression and get a city target through tax breaks and monies. Make it happen Sylvester . 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subdude Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 If you look at the explosion of retail for the "upscale and wealthy" lately (River Oaks District, Galleria expansion, Kirby Collection, Rice Village redevelopment etc etc) it is hard to see how much demand there could be for yet another retail destination for the upscale and wealthy. Or maybe they feel they don't have enough choices, and I'm just blind to it. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cspwal Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 What Downtown needs is something like a Target, where the residents can get their basic stuff that isn't sold in grocery stores. Right now in downtown, there's no place that your $125k engineer is going to be able to get duck tape, sand paper, and a new drill bit to fix the hobby project that has gone severely wrong at 8 pm. A downtown Target would have people in there day and night 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mollusk Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 Target could make bank in downtown or maybe near a midtown rail stop. The Sawyer Target is just about always packed. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cspwal Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 East side of downtown still has a bunch of parking lots and even a few greenfield sites. Though right at 1111 Main would be perfect 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloud713 Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 I agree, a CityTarget would do very well. I would much rather it be in the ground floor(s) of an office/residential tower downtown than be located in midtown. Maybe I'm not rich enough, but I don't consider target to be a "low end retailer". My previous comment was in response to the suggestions of Ross/Marshalls types of discount stores in downtown. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cspwal Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 I think a Ross or a Marshalls would be able to get plenty of bussiness, but I don't know if they'd make enough revenue per square foot to pay for downtown rent. It would be nice to have a legit small shopping area with something like that, plus a Target and a whole bunch of little stores or something 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Urbannizer Posted May 17, 2017 Author Popular Post Share Posted May 17, 2017 First look from a GreenStreet PDF file advertising office space. 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobruss Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 I'm confused. That rendering doesn't look anything like Greenstreet or Alessandra. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subdude Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 Dallas at Fannin, looking east. I think it is purely conceptual. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lockmat Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 (edited) I agree, that rendering doesn't make any sense, even from the Dallas/Fannin perspective, in my opinion. ...unless you meant, west? Edited May 17, 2017 by lockmat 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naviguessor Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 Definitely Dallas/Fannin looking WEST toward Main. See the Light Rail & Hilcorp. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H-Town Man Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 So in that case, it looks like they are placing the parking garage on Main with the retail on the bottom. Sort of a dueling parking garage with Hilcorp's across the street, and continuing the rich tradition of parking garages on Main - 9 in 6 blocks between Texas and Dallas if this goes through. You would think that creative office space users would want to overlook Main Street Square, rather than overlook Fannin Street and have their cars overlook Main Street Square. Right? Or maybe they are preserving the Sakowitz building with garage inside, which would be slightly better, but I doubt the building can take that much more reconfiguration. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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