j_cuevas713 Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 Ahh ok sorry, I'm trying to keep up with everything and its hard because so much is happening all at once. But that's awesome, glad they are keeping it. So has this thread merged with the Hines development? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloud713 Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 No? Why would this merge with the Hines thread (I assume you mean Hines 32 story residential tower at Market Square).. Hines has nothing to do with this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_cuevas713 Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 That's why I asked... because earlier in the thread there were posts about the Hines development Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloud713 Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 That's why I asked... because earlier in the thread there were posts about the Hines developmentAh, for sure. Some people were discussing how this project moving forward might affect the Hines residential development a block away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcus Allen Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 Metro West. moo, I have seen better. JKJKJK, lolololol, jkjk. Please, please, oh development gods, let that side of DT look like that. Thank you MW. Thank you very much for your efforts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate99 Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 The van in the picture in the article is no older than a 1971 model, FWIW. Sounds seedy. We have Fondren for that now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H-Town Man Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 The van in the picture in the article is no older than a 1971 model, FWIW.Sounds seedy. We have Fondren for that now.Don't worry, I don't think anyone's trying to bring all that back. It's as much a part of downtown's past as men in top hats helping women in dresses onto trolleys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mollusk Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 Sounds seedy. Heeyyyyyyyy... what's so bad about seedy? Driving past on Milam earlier today, I saw a Harvey sign on the fence. Looks like there will be more cement trucks to dodge sooner rather than later there. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_cuevas713 Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 I think I'm more excited about this development than Hines... Just because it removes more surface parking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate99 Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 I think I'm more excited about this development than Hines... Just because it removes more surface parking Hines tower takes all of the surface lot parking out of the block it is going on, same as this one.Don't worry, I don't think anyone's trying to bring all that back. It's as much a part of downtown's past as men in top hats helping women in dresses onto trolleys. There's way a market for seedy, it's just interesting where it goes over time. All interesting stuff. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H-Town Man Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 There's way a market for seedy, it's just interesting where it goes over time. All interesting stuff. I was referring to the hippy/lovefest thing that the article discussed. Did you think it was seedy because the buildings looked run down in the photo? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate99 Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 (edited) I was referring to the hippy/lovefest thing that the article discussed. Did you think it was seedy because the buildings looked run down in the photo? No, I meant seedy as referring to the types of activities that they were describing/relative position in the overall city cultural scene. Edited July 23, 2014 by Nate99 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_cuevas713 Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 Hines tower takes all of the surface lot parking out of the block it is going on, same as this one. There's way a market for seedy, it's just interesting where it goes over time. All interesting stuff. Yeah it does you're right Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triton Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 2014-07-24 20.11.09 by marclongoria, on Flickr 2014-07-24 20.13.06 by marclongoria, on Flickr 2014-07-24 20.11.37 by marclongoria, on Flickr 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UtterlyUrban Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 (edited) Hogg Palace is about to get noisy.That is Hogg Palace in the last shot, right? If not, somebody else is about to get noisy. Edited July 25, 2014 by UtterlyUrban Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lockmat Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 Hogg Palace is about to get noisy.That is Hogg Palace in the last shot, right? If not, somebody else is about to get noisy. At least construction will be when most of them are at work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UtterlyUrban Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 At least construction will be when most of them are at work.True!Unless they work from home. Or, worse, work the nightshift and sleep during the day! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rsb320 Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 They've now got both southbound sidewalks closed (Louisiana & Milam). This is creating a dangerous situation. Parkers in the garage are having to walk in the street. Downtown drivers be crazy, including Metro buses. Should I report this Hazard to the city? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metro West Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 No! It might cause them to cancel the project and then the boom will be over! How'd you like THAT hanging over your head for the rest of your life? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rsb320 Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 (edited) No! It might cause them to cancel the project and then the boom will be over! How'd you like THAT hanging over your head for the rest of your life? Haha. Maybe I'll just start taking the shuttle to go 1 BLOCK.! Or, I could walk against traffic, so that I can see what's about to hit me. It won't be hanging over my head if I'm dead. Edited July 29, 2014 by rsb320 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mollusk Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 Isn't the sidewalk across either street still open? This isn't nearly the obstacle course that Rusk has turned into. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rsb320 Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 They took out most of the asphalt yesterday and are digging into the dirt today. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rsb320 Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 They just took down a tree that was on the former Milam sidewalk. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H-Town Man Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 Pics or it didn't happen. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swtsig Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 (edited) no one believes you rsb320... take your propaganda elsewhere. Edited August 5, 2014 by swtsig 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luminare Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 I think a thread that holds the rules of the internet is in order.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H-Town Man Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 Guys it was intended humorously. swtsig continues to shadow me... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigFootsSocks Posted August 6, 2014 Share Posted August 6, 2014 Yeah those are jokes too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swtsig Posted August 6, 2014 Share Posted August 6, 2014 Guys it was intended humorously. swtsig continues to shadow me...It was a joke and here's a newsflash... It wasn't intended at you.The personality of this board is that of a wet paper sack. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
urbanize713 Posted August 6, 2014 Share Posted August 6, 2014 To appease the masses here are some pics from earlier today. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoustonIsHome Posted August 6, 2014 Share Posted August 6, 2014 Yay!! They are starting to dig. Saw the beginnings of a hole today Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H-Town Man Posted August 6, 2014 Share Posted August 6, 2014 It was a joke and here's a newsflash... It wasn't intended at you.The personality of this board is that of a wet paper sack.Now I can rest assured that no hostility was meant towards me in your previous post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mollusk Posted August 6, 2014 Share Posted August 6, 2014 To appease the masses here are some pics from earlier today. Thanks. When driving past I'm usually on Milam or Louisiana and paying too much attention to trying to make the light at Preston without getting clobbered by a bus to get a good look. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rsb320 Posted August 6, 2014 Share Posted August 6, 2014 no one believes you rsb320... take your propaganda elsewhere.I have an office full of witnesses... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mollusk Posted August 6, 2014 Share Posted August 6, 2014 I have an office full of witnesses... There are studies questioning the reliability of eyewitnesses... (for the skeptics - did I put in enough links?) 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urbannizer Posted August 6, 2014 Author Share Posted August 6, 2014 Texas D.E. Harvey Builders has started constructing Market Square Tower at 777 Preston in downtown Houston. The 40-story, 500,000-sq-ft building will contain 463 rental apartments, an indoor basketball court, a virtual golf simulator, a screening room with recliners, a banquet room and two swimming pools. The project owner is the Woodbranch Investment Group. Construction is expected to be completed by January 2017. The project is valued at $147.3 million. D.E. Harvey Builders, Attn: Dustin Kelch, Project Manager, 3630 Westchase, Houston, 77042. DR#14-00507311.http://enr.construction.com/resources/pulse/2014/0811-pulse.asp 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UtterlyUrban Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 2.5 years to build this?For whatever reason (likely totally wrong headed on my part), this seems quite long to me. I would have guessed no more that 2 years. Shows again why fools like me don't build buildings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigFootsSocks Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 (edited) 2.5 years to build this?For whatever reason (likely totally wrong headed on my part), this seems quite long to me. I would have guessed no more that 2 years. Shows again why fools like me don't build buildings.Don't beat yourself down too much. You're right, something like this could go up in less than 2 years. The key factor here is money. Spend more money on construction and it'll go quicker. Save money on construction and amount of labor the months start to add up. Think BHPBilliton Tower vs Astoria. BHP started theirs months after Astoria started yet they're at the same height and are somewhat confined to similar tight land spaces on Post Oak. Edited August 7, 2014 by BigFootsSocks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toxtethogrady Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 That's odd. My experience with construction projects is it usually takes longer the more money you spend... Can anyone confirm labor shortages? It's been suggested as the reason some other projects in town aren't getting started as fast as anticipated. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigFootsSocks Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 I meant more money spent during the construction phase for labor. As in, more labor = faster project time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purdueenginerd Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 I'm in industrial construction, and were having some occasional labor shortages. The highrise market may be more severe though. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tangledwoods Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 I'm in industrial construction, and were having some occasional labor shortages. The highrise market may be more severe though. We are having crazy labor shortages. Also in sub markets like the energy corridor lead times for concrete are 5-8 weeks even for the big concrete guys (Keystone / Baker). Dont get me wrong there are plenty of warm bodies willing to fill your jobsite, but finding qualified labor is becoming a real challenge. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UtterlyUrban Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 A concrete shortage and a skilled labor shortage would explain the 2.5 years. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toxtethogrady Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 Hmm, I sense an apprentice program would create the talent. But I guess the non-union projects won't ever have anything like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fernz Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 Yes, there are both labor and material shortages for RE construction projects. That's the downside of a boom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purdueenginerd Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 I won't go too much down the path of politics/labor movements. A lot of the plants/refineries/etc.. require federal background checks and significant drug testing. When I was traveling all over the country a lot more; I'd get hair follicle tested like 5 times a year- Urinalysis was easily a dozen times per year. Rather annoying, but it thins out our available pool of workers. I kind of wish they lightened up about that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metro West Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 Hm, I wonder what kind of "Wacky Shacks" they are building in Denver and Seattle these days? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houston19514 Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 2.5 years to build this?For whatever reason (likely totally wrong headed on my part), this seems quite long to me. I would have guessed no more that 2 years. Shows again why fools like me don't build buildings. Don't beat yourself down too much. You're right, something like this could go up in less than 2 years. The key factor here is money. Spend more money on construction and it'll go quicker. Save money on construction and amount of labor the months start to add up. Think BHPBilliton Tower vs Astoria. BHP started theirs months after Astoria started yet they're at the same height and are somewhat confined to similar tight land spaces on Post Oak. Is there any particular reason this building should go up faster than other buildings of comparable height? Will 2929 Weslayan be completed in less than 2 years? (Hint: it was started in November 2012.) 2 1/2 years seems like a pretty normal construction time for a 40-story building. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Graystone Posted August 7, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted August 7, 2014 (edited) Hi, New to the forum. I wanted to add some pictures of this since I work in 717 Texas and my office faces the construction site. The first picture is July 18th and the second is today (August 7th) 2014. Edited August 7, 2014 by Graystone 13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxman Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 (edited) Is the above photo-shopped image an accurate portrayal of the building? Seems 'fat' for such a narrow piece of land as seen from the image above taken from the previous poster. I figured it would resemble more One Park Place with a wide face and narrow sides and not a perfect square as seen in this rendering. Edited August 7, 2014 by wxman 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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