TheNiche Posted October 10, 2008 Share Posted October 10, 2008 The Mosaic is a beautiful building but they can not get it together. I Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roadrunner Posted October 10, 2008 Share Posted October 10, 2008 (edited) I know they are having problems absorbing these towers, but I have to admit they are some of the best looking buildings that have been built inside the loop in the last 5-10 years. They look spectacular from the park and even better from 288 or Almeda. I love how the Museum District has towers that randomly pop up out of the trees. This area has almost formed a skyline of its own. Edited October 10, 2008 by roadrunner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Original Timmy Chan's Posted October 12, 2008 Share Posted October 12, 2008 I know they are having problems absorbing these towers, but I have to admit they are some of the best looking buildings that have been built inside the loop in the last 5-10 years. They look spectacular from the park and even better from 288 or Almeda. I love how the Museum District has towers that randomly pop up out of the trees. This area has almost formed a skyline of its own. The Mosaic towers have indeed formed their own skyline...and that new skyline blocks out half of the previously fantastic vista of the downtown skyline looking north up Almeda. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Impossible Posted October 12, 2008 Share Posted October 12, 2008 The Mosaic towers have indeed formed their own skyline...and that new skyline blocks out half of the previously fantastic vista of the downtown skyline looking north up Almeda. What is it with you people and views? I admit, I like them as much as anyone else, but it's the same story in Dallas. As soon as someone builds something that "blocks their view" they freak out. Calm down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Original Timmy Chan's Posted October 12, 2008 Share Posted October 12, 2008 What is it with you people and views? I admit, I like them as much as anyone else, but it's the same story in Dallas. As soon as someone builds something that "blocks their view" they freak out. Calm down. My apologies for the outburst. I think I'm OK now...whew! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InTheLoop Posted October 16, 2008 Share Posted October 16, 2008 Want to see Mosaic's "country cousin"?In 2005-6 "The Glass House" was completed in Denver. Same general exterior (beautiful, in my book), 389 units, 8th floor pool/club room, twin towers atop 7 level garage, adjacent to picturesque park w/fast running S. Platte River at base. Beautiful finshes in all common areas, but cut corners on interior finishes (mediocre cabinets, etc.). Walk to downtown.Pre-sale announcement followed by immediate 100% sellout. A year later, almost every "flipper" had been rewarded as +/- $300/sf presale went to$400/sf + w/in a year. Currently still full, pricing holding up except for oddball view units, etc.. Why? Read TheNiche's insights as to location, above.Marketed to young professionals/trust fund babies with an "edgy" campaign. Bought by empty-nesters, those who wanted a pied a terre prior to driving to the slopes, and a few folks who wanted to walk to work. Not the target crowd. It was hilarious to read the Glass House official blogwritten by a chick who used terms like "peeps" ad nauseum, "communicating" with owners who just didn't want to "get it", dude.If you want to see how a city got infill RIGHT, check out Riverfrontpark.com, and see how Denver did/is doing transit and infill. Denverinfill.com is also a top-notch "scorecard" site that does a great job of politically pressuring crap building owners and surface parking lot blighters.BTW, Denver already has a "Pavillions" with mostly the same old bowling alley/music venue, etc. that is being hyped here. Denver attracts far more after hours folks d'town (huge convention city). Nevertheless, after 2-3 years Pavillions turned into a hangout for scary-looking kids from adjacent neighborhoods who panhandle, smoke, glare, skate and kill time. What they don't do is spend $, and there has been turnover from quality retail to cheaper stuff. The almost-new movie theatre is so bad that I once had to endure the projectionist stopping the movie, turning up the lights and ejectingseveral "patrons".I hope the Houston Pavillions crowd learned, but I doubt it. Maybe Denver Pav. is a success (I don't know) but it is in no way a landmark Denverites are proud of...and they have a much more vibrant downtown scene.I just don't see our Pavillions standing the test of time...but hey, it's not my $!. I would suggest lots of security (LOTS!) and a no-nonsense approach to loitering. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbigtex56 Posted October 18, 2008 Share Posted October 18, 2008 Merged "Beware of the Monster" with exisiting thread about Mosaic. Removed "going up" from title, and moved from Going Up! to Texas Medical Center. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNiche Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 Merged "Beware of the Monster" with exisiting thread about Mosaic. Removed "going up" from title, and moved from Going Up! to Texas Medical Center.The second tower is still 'Going Up!'For those of you contemplating renting a highrise residence in the near future, sources tell me that the smallest one-bedroom units here are starting at about $1,800 per month. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
musicman Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 For those of you contemplating renting a highrise residence in the near future, sources tell me that the smallest one-bedroom units here are starting at about $1,800 per month. that should be interesting to see who actually rents these. we went and looked at some various places around houston this weekend. foreclosures a'plenty and prices are falling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NenaE Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 That Wulfe list is interesting, there are some old structures included, the old gas station at LaBranch, old bldgs. downtown at Prairie, have a look. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roadrunner Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 That Wulfe list is interesting, there are some old structures included, the old gas station at LaBranch, old bldgs. downtown at Prairie, have a look.What are you referring to? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChannelTwoNews Posted November 9, 2008 Share Posted November 9, 2008 (edited) The second tower is still 'Going Up!'And it's been renamed "Montage", now an all-rental tower.Pretty sad when your naming contest originated here, much less picked the winner from the "unlucky" pile... I'd link to the Sarnoff piece about the situation that was in today's paper, but their website doesn't have the link at the moment. Edited November 9, 2008 by ChannelTwoNews 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
citizen4rmptown Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 And it's been renamed "Montage", now an all-rental tower.Pretty sad when your naming contest originated here, much less picked the winner from the "unlucky" pile... I'd link to the Sarnoff piece about the situation that was in today's paper, but their website doesn't have the link at the moment.So according to this, the second towers name is "Montage"? well i find that hard to believe.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChannelTwoNews Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 So according to this, the second towers name is "Montage"? well i find that hard to believe..Here's the article.http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/busine...ff/6103357.html 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgriff Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 The average price per square foot is $325.No wonder. I just can't imagine paying that much plus .39 cents a month per square foot maintinence. The people who buy these things must be financial imbeciles. Even if you are super rich why would you just throw money away for no reason? You can get a townhouse in the same area for half the price per square foot with a lower maintinence fee, a private garage and it doesn't take an elevator ride to get outside.When I first moved to Houston I looked at getting into a high-rise and just couldn't make financial sense out of it. Who buys these things? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sowanome Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 No wonder. I just can't imagine paying that much plus .39 cents a month per square foot maintinence. The people who buy these things must be financial imbeciles. When I first moved to Houston I looked at getting into a high-rise and just couldn't make financial sense out of it. Who buys these things? This is an entire discussion to itself, but since most of Houston isn't a population-dense city and home prices are still in check, it's hard to justify buying in a high rise unless you take into consideration the amenities(what's included in the maintenance fee) of most high-rises: THESE are Avg's. Only Landscaping: $25/month Pool usage: $20/month Workout facility (midscale w/privacy): $50 pp/month Homeowners Insurance (but, renters insurance, $100/yr, is needed): $120/month Standard Cable/Internet: $100/month Water: $10 Total: $325 At some places, Electricity is also included, so go figure. It's not that bad of a deal at all, it's just all about what's included! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgriff Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 This is an entire discussion to itself, but since most of Houston isn't a population-dense city and home prices are still in check, it's hard to justify buying in a high rise unless you take into consideration the amenities(what's included in the maintenance fee) of most high-rises:THESE are Avg's. Only Landscaping: $25/month Pool usage: $20/month Workout facility (midscale w/privacy): $50 pp/month Homeowners Insurance (but, renters insurance, $100/yr, is needed): $120/month Standard Cable/Internet: $100/month Water: $10 Total: $325 At some places, Electricity is also included, so go figure. It's not that bad of a deal at all, it's just all about what's included! Still doesn't make sense to me. Why buy in this high rise when you can have a townhouse in the same neigborhood that's bigger has a private garage and costs less per sf? Also, go up a little in the sf on a high rise and that maintinence fee goes into crazy land. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
citizen4rmptown Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 Here's the article.http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/busine...ff/6103357.htmlthanks, for the more reliable source Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNiche Posted November 11, 2008 Share Posted November 11, 2008 Still doesn't make sense to me. Why buy in this high rise when you can have a townhouse in the same neigborhood that's bigger has a private garage and costs less per sf? Also, go up a little in the sf on a high rise and that maintinence fee goes into crazy land.ViewSnobbery and/or ExclusivitySecurity (real or perceived)Phallic Symbology Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuilderGeek Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 Pretty sad when your naming contest originated here, much less picked the winner from the "unlucky" pile... What do you expect for a grand prize of $29.70? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
photolitherland Posted December 1, 2008 Share Posted December 1, 2008 Some photos from Saturday night. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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swtsig Posted December 9, 2008 Share Posted December 9, 2008 So according to this, the second towers name is "Montage"? well i find that hard to believe.."even Rocky had a mon-taaaage..." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lwood Posted December 9, 2008 Share Posted December 9, 2008 ViewSnobbery and/or ExclusivitySecurity (real or perceived)Phallic SymbologySome people like one thing while others like something else. No reason to put them down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNiche Posted December 9, 2008 Share Posted December 9, 2008 (edited) Some people like one thing while others like something else. No reason to put them down. I'm not putting anyone down. I'm providing explanation. I like Mosaic and would be willing to pay a premium to live there for just the reasons I mentioned--only not THAT much. If you like it too and have further reasons, then by all means contribute to my list. EDIT: Should I take it as an insult that you perceived my reasoning for liking Mosaic as a personal insult!? I merely accept facets of my own taste. If you think that that was me putting someone else down, then your opinion of me must be dismal. It's almost as though...you've put me down. Edited December 9, 2008 by TheNiche Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LTAWACS Posted December 12, 2008 Share Posted December 12, 2008 nice pics Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jax Posted January 7, 2009 Share Posted January 7, 2009 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vertigo58 Posted January 8, 2009 Share Posted January 8, 2009 Absolutely beautiful! Way to go Jax! I urge everyone to take a TOUR and see what a elegant place this is. The city views from atop are unreal. Even more dramatic in the evening sunset! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuilderGeek Posted January 9, 2009 Share Posted January 9, 2009 (edited) EDIT: Decided not to be snarky. Edited January 9, 2009 by BuilderGeek Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
musicman Posted January 9, 2009 Share Posted January 9, 2009 (edited) Mosaic's developer files Chapter 11 protectionThe developer of the Mosaic condominium tower on the edge of Hermann Park has filed for bankruptcy protection, another sign that the national recession and credit crunch is affecting the Houston real estate market.The developer, 5925 Almeda North Tower LP, made the Chapter 11 filing in U.S. Bankruptcy Court for the Southern District of Texas on Monday. Assets were listed at $85 million and debts at almost $52 million.The Mosaic project was announced in 2005 and twin towers were developed at the 5925 Almeda site.The second tower, which is not part of the bankruptcy, is still under construction. It was recently renamed Montage and the units there will be rented as apartments.full article Edited January 9, 2009 by musicman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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