Mr.Clean19 Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 For those new to the area, i've attached my version of development in the area. Should be interesting to see what happens the next few years. East Bayou District Development Map.pdf 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montrose1100 Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 1 hour ago, H-Town Man said: Montrose, can you unpack that a little? I am a little behind on this area of town. Downtown to this area along the bayou will be developed to tie into the west side. Trails cleaned up, a couple pedestrian bridges. I don't know if it will mirror the west side, but anything will be an improvement at this point. With Midway grabbing this site one of the bridges will likely go right inbetween the Jensen & Hirsch crossings. Linking the silos as well. Only concerned with the big plot of land to the east of Middle. Also North of Freud. With Midway no longer a rumor, my fever to purchase is at a boiling point. Plus our office is moving to Humble. Fiancé works in TMC. Apart from toxic soil, this area is looking pretty good. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucleareaction Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 1 hour ago, Mr.Clean19 said: For those new to the area, i've attached my version of development in the area. Should be interesting to see what happens the next few years. East Bayou District Development Map.pdf What is the green square supposed to be? I don't recall it being mentioned before... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naviguessor Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 Join us 'trose. You and the fiancé would fit right in. This is exactly what we've been hoping for, over here in our little neighborhood. We heard a mention of Midway's involvement recently in a neighborhood meeting and that they were working with Buffalo Bayou Partnership, on plans for the bayou. Anne Olsen for BBP also informs that they have been working on development plans for the Bayou east of Downtown. All sounds good too me, so far. Its such a huge piece of property, I am sure that it will be a work in project for the decade to come. And we need a lot more residents... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Clean19 Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 Nuclear, thats Frank Liu's MDI lot. Some 500 homes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H-Town Man Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 3 hours ago, Mr.Clean19 said: For those new to the area, i've attached my version of development in the area. Should be interesting to see what happens the next few years. East Bayou District Development Map.pdf Cool map. Thought there was a bit more going on on the south side with townhomes, no? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Clean19 Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 I probably didnt capture everything south of the site. This was ment to capture large open tracks along the bayou in that area... Again... it is a rough copy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triton Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 (edited) * Edited July 6, 2016 by Triton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Clean19 Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 Can i quote you on that Triton? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sanjorade Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 Mayor Turner wants a theme park for the city .... this could make for an interesting site. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montrose1100 Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 4 minutes ago, Sanjorade said: Mayor Turner wants a theme park for the city .... this could make for an interesting site. Anddddd I'm scouting the west side. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobruss Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 If you go to Buffalo Bayou conservancy website and look at the master plan it is all played out and very easy to follow. It shows all their plans for the east side. Pretty impressive renderings. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arisegundo Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 14 years. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigereye Posted July 7, 2016 Share Posted July 7, 2016 (edited) 7 hours ago, Sanjorade said: Mayor Turner wants a theme park for the city .... this could make for an interesting site. This is what I was thinking when I first read the article today. Coincidental timing of this announcement? This site is 136 acres, AstroWorld was only 57 acres IIRC. Could work and tie with BBP bayou trail efforts. Edited July 7, 2016 by tigereye 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arisegundo Posted July 7, 2016 Share Posted July 7, 2016 The Urban Edge weighs in, including another plan for the area by the Greater East End folks. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EllenOlenska Posted July 7, 2016 Share Posted July 7, 2016 (edited) I can't wait til I start seeing renderings and am able to differentiate all these massive concrete seas surrounding downtown from each other. Edited July 7, 2016 by EllenOlenska 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Clean19 Posted July 7, 2016 Share Posted July 7, 2016 Booo amusement park.... BOOooooo. The UT Campus would have been a great idea. Or a Green Energy Corridor. Heck, you could even make a dock right there on the bayou to barge products out. The Cathexsis owners were using the site to ship Reactors to jobsites. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montrose1100 Posted July 7, 2016 Share Posted July 7, 2016 I hope they incorporate the current office tower. Although I wouldn't complain if it washed out in contemporary design. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
intencity77 Posted July 7, 2016 Share Posted July 7, 2016 (edited) 33 minutes ago, Montrose1100 said: I hope they incorporate the current office tower. Although I wouldn't complain if it washed out in contemporary design. Yeah I had the same thought as well. If it's still structurally sound, I could see them renovating and possibly recladding the exterior especially since Midway typically likes to include office space in their projects. Edited July 7, 2016 by intencity77 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigereye Posted July 7, 2016 Share Posted July 7, 2016 I'm gonna guess Northbank Buffalo Bayou is the Post Office site and the East End site is something else. http://swamplot.com/midway-our-giant-fifth-ward-site-wont-be-called-northbank-buffalo-bayou-but-something-else-might/2016-07-07/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montrose1100 Posted July 7, 2016 Share Posted July 7, 2016 What kind of tax income would the city get on a theme park versus a mixed use site? Which would raise the property values more? Serious question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samagon Posted July 7, 2016 Share Posted July 7, 2016 (edited) 18 hours ago, tigereye said: This is what I was thinking when I first read the article today. Coincidental timing of this announcement? This site is 136 acres, AstroWorld was only 57 acres IIRC. Could work and tie with BBP bayou trail efforts. keep in mind the 57 acres was all park area, parking wasn't included. to have a decent sized park you'd have to build a parking structure on this much land. If an amusement park, if it were me, I'd give 4 billion to Disney to build a theme park there. Imagine the taxes we'd make on 365 days of car rental tax and hotel guest tax. Not to mention restaurants, etc. I mean, we dumped ~500 million into a football stadium that gets used maybe 45 days a year. Let's spend 8x the money on something that will be used 8x as often. keep in mind, shanghai disney just cost 3.7 billion to build, so it's not like we'd be giving them free money, we'd be giving them the same deal we did with the users of the football stadium. As awesome as an amusement park would be (and good proximity to two airports, and the scenic ship channel), I just don't see that happening. (even without the county giving whoever the same deal they'd give a football owner). The best solution would be to offer all of NRG (parking lots, everything), including the old Astroworld site to Disney along with 4 billion, the only stipulation being that they have to incorporate the astrodome into whatever they build. give the rodeo the KBR site. so many problems solved! Edited July 7, 2016 by samagon 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houston19514 Posted July 7, 2016 Share Posted July 7, 2016 18 hours ago, tigereye said: This is what I was thinking when I first read the article today. Coincidental timing of this announcement? This site is 136 acres, AstroWorld was only 57 acres IIRC. Could work and tie with BBP bayou trail efforts. Astroworld was 104 acres, and as Samagon pointed out above, that was all amusement park; that 104 acres included no parking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houston19514 Posted July 7, 2016 Share Posted July 7, 2016 49 minutes ago, samagon said: If an amusement park, if it were me, I'd give 4 billion to Disney to build a theme park there. Imagine the taxes we'd make on 365 days of car rental tax and hotel guest tax. Not to mention restaurants, etc. I mean, we dumped ~500 million into a football stadium that gets used maybe 45 days a year. Let's spend 8x the money on something that will be used 8x as often. keep in mind, shanghai disney just cost 3.7 billion to build, so it's not like we'd be giving them free money, we'd be giving them the same deal we did with the users of the football stadium. As awesome as an amusement park would be (and good proximity to two airports, and the scenic ship channel), I just don't see that happening. (even without the county giving whoever the same deal they'd give a football owner). The best solution would be to offer all of NRG (parking lots, everything), including the old Astroworld site to Disney along with 4 billion, the only stipulation being that they have to incorporate the astrodome into whatever they build. give the rodeo the KBR site. so many problems solved! There is so much wrong with this post... but let's just start here: Taxpayer portion of NRG Stadium was in the neighborhood of $287 Million, not even close to $500 Million. (The stadium did not even cost $500 Million). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H-Town Man Posted July 7, 2016 Share Posted July 7, 2016 1 hour ago, Montrose1100 said: What kind of tax income would the city get on a theme park versus a mixed use site? Which would raise the property values more? Serious question. Densely developed mixed use generates far more revenue than a theme park. Theme parks generally go for the cheapest land they can find that has good transportation access. Think of Splashtown buying land up in Spring off I-45 in the late 80's, when there was virtually nothing between The Woodlands and 1960. This will not be a theme park. A more plausible idea is that it could be a theme/festival center similar to Faneuil Hall or Navy Pier. But I think it is too far from downtown. Something like that would have to be walking distance. I don't see tourism for this site, with so much more viable land along the bayou downtown and with the possible North Canal. I see this as high quality neighborhood mixed use, not as retail-driven as Regent Square, more quiet with classy residences and modest office space that blend with the bayou park and have a strong nature and eco theme. Maybe instead of GreenStreet, GreenPark. Great place for a romantic date, away from the downtown noise. The new engagement spot after Vargo's. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montrose1100 Posted July 7, 2016 Share Posted July 7, 2016 16 minutes ago, H-Town Man said: Densely developed mixed use generates far more revenue than a theme park. Theme parks generally go for the cheapest land they can find that has good transportation access. Think of Splashtown buying land up in Spring off I-45 in the late 80's, when there was virtually nothing between The Woodlands and 1960. This will not be a theme park. A more plausible idea is that it could be a theme/festival center similar to Faneuil Hall or Navy Pier. But I think it is too far from downtown. Something like that would have to be walking distance. I don't see tourism for this site, with so much more viable land along the bayou downtown and with the possible North Canal. I see this as high quality neighborhood mixed use, not as retail-driven as Regent Square, more quiet with classy residences and modest office space that blend with the bayou park and have a strong nature and eco theme. Maybe instead of GreenStreet, GreenPark. Great place for a romantic date, away from the downtown noise. The new engagement spot after Vargo's. The views 4 floors and up would be spectacular. I really hope this lot doesn't become a theme park. What a waste of money for the bayou park to be spruced up only to have a barbed wire fence running alongside. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparrow Posted July 8, 2016 Share Posted July 8, 2016 How about creating a marina district? I don't own a yacht, but if I did, it sure would be great to have it parked out back while still living in the heart of the city. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloud713 Posted July 8, 2016 Share Posted July 8, 2016 I didn't think you could drive personal watercraft through certain parts of the ship channel? If so, it would be an inland marina isolated from open waters. It would be nice for Midway to work with BBP to get some sort of water taxi/bayou boat service between KBR and Allens Landing though.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobruss Posted July 8, 2016 Share Posted July 8, 2016 I don't know if they had to get special permission but during the Super Bowl several fairly large outboards came up from the bay and docked at Allen's Landing. They said they had to work with the tides but mentioned no special permitting. The boaters said they came up to have drinks in Market Square. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houston? Posted July 8, 2016 Share Posted July 8, 2016 So, Midway isn't going to do anything with this, since y'all talking about an amusement park? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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