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Downtown Houston 2036 Master Plan


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Will downtown still be cheap to live in, in 2017? That's the big question, b/c if only those who can afford $1,700/month rent can live there, then I think it's a bust. If more condo's enter the market, then all bets are off. Downtown is still as sleepy as when I moved here in 2010.

 

If DT rents are still at $1700/month by 2017, I will be really happy (as a renter)

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If DT rents are still at $1700/month by 2017, I will be really happy (as a renter)

That would be the rent floor for an efficiency at only the Houston House, average rent would be in the $2500-3500 range. I'm saying having the low end of the market ($1000-2000) will help churn young professionals through the nab and establish the idea of downtown as a neighborhood. If only older professionals can afford downtown then they will not flock when they can get more space at a discount nearby or will lease the apartments as second homes (i.e. not actually live there like half of One Park Place).

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Downtown's new problem will be a limited amount of the type/designs of available space. Maybe the city will allow developers to build micro-apts in the 300-600 sq.ft. range..

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I actually think that the continued growth of downtown is going to be a short term setback for development in Midtown.

I think you have it backwards. Montrose, Midtown, and Heights are still adding people and retail, it is downtown that is catching up.

I actually think that the growth of residential downtown is going to hurt Midtown short term.

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That would be the rent floor for an efficiency at only the Houston House, average rent would be in the $2500-3500 range. I'm saying having the low end of the market ($1000-2000) will help churn young professionals through the nab and establish the idea of downtown as a neighborhood. If only older professionals can afford downtown then they will not flock when they can get more space at a discount nearby or will lease the apartments as second homes (i.e. not actually live there like half of One Park Place).

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Downtown's new problem will be a limited amount of the type/designs of available space. Maybe the city will allow developers to build micro-apts in the 300-600 sq.ft. range..

 

Try $1130 as the rent floor... CHEAPER than several new complexes in Montrose/ Midtown

 

Houston House

http://aim.force.com/locatormls/apex/houstonhouse?id=a19F0000001HgZ2

 

Check some other places downtown.  It's not as much as you might think...

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How's that? The midtown crowd is into partying a lot more than downtown. Seems like two separate groups to me.

Just my opinion, but I think that residential development in South Downtown will steal from development in Midtown in the short term. But then again, I've never been that bullish on Midtown. The party scene tends to move in Houston.

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Just my opinion, but I think that residential development in South Downtown will steal from development in Midtown in the short term. But then again, I've never been that bullish on Midtown. The party scene tends to move in Houston.

It seemed like party scene was headed to Washington but has come back to midtown, because there are so many places within walkable distance.

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As much as I would hate for it to happen it looks like to me they would change the facade. The dark glass is what makes this downtown building iconic in my eyes.

 

Looking at the teaser, everything is blacked out except the Pennzoil Place itself. Which to me signals a change in the facade color.

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As much as I would hate for it to happen it looks like to me they would change the facade. The dark glass is what makes this downtown building iconic in my eyes.

Looking at the teaser, everything is blacked out except the Pennzoil Place itself. Which to me signals a change in the facade color.

I was thinking that too actually, but honestly I think if they do anything they'll renovate the inside and if they replace the outside it will be with the exact same look just upgraded material. They would have to bee insane to change the look in any way to this building. I think we're all over reacting.

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I was thinking that too actually, but honestly I think if they do anything they'll renovate the inside and if they replace the outside it will be with the exact same look just upgraded material. They would have to bee insane to change the look in any way to this building. I think we're all over reacting.

 

I certainly do hope we are overreacting. I'd protest if they changed the exterior facade look.

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Why? Do you own the building? If not, then it's really none of your business.

Just like it was none of our business trying to not bomb the cultural landmarks of Europe during WWII. We don't own any of them, what where we thinking?!? And the River Oaks theater... None of us owned it, so why save it?

Lets propose to the owners of The Enpire State Building to do the facade in a light blue glass!

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Just like it was none of our business trying to not bomb the cultural landmarks of Europe during WWII. We don't own any of them, what where we thinking?!? And the River Oaks theater... None of us owned it, so why save it?

Lets propose to the owners of The Enpire State Building to do the facade in a light blue glass!

 

Why would you care if the RO theater gets torn down? It's not a significant building, any more so than any of the other early strip malls on Gray are.

 

 

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Relax friend, even though our constitutional rights have been eroding away over the years I do still have my right to free speech just like you do. 

 

But why waste the effort complaining about what someone does to their property? I like looking at great buildings too, but I am not personally invested in whether they exist or not.

 

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But why waste the effort complaining about what someone does to their property? I like looking at great buildings too, but I am not personally invested in whether they exist or not.

 

I seriously don't understand this mindset.

 

So, you wouldn't care if your neighbor tears down their house and opens a tire dump/meth lab? You wouldn't care if the Pennzoil Towers were altered? You don't care if the last remaining vintage theater shuts down? All because you don't own them? 

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