kbates2 Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 Such a key project. Are they saying that the full $100m was approved, the $80m partnership portion or the $20m local match? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H-Town Man Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 10 hours ago, tigereye said: ROW acquisition, design, and construction for North Canal were apart of bond election approved by voters last Saturday. https://abc13.com/work-begins-on-harris-co-flood-projects-after-$25-billion-vote/4080341/ AYFKM?!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H-Town Man Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 It looks like the North Canal project will involve $20 million of local funding and $80 million from a partner, presumably either the federal or state government. Based on this document, there is $2.25 billion in Local Only projects and $872 million in local funding for Partner projects (this is one of those). The bond is for $2.5 billion, so I don't see how it covers all of the "2018 Bond Projects" which would seem to require $3.12 billion in local funds, but maybe some of the money is coming from the normal Flood tax budget. https://www.hcfcd.org/media/2907/2018bondprojectlist2018-08-06-1130.pdf The North Canal is project number E200-02-00-NC. tl;dr - we will still have to wait on outside funding to see the North Canal get built, but it is in the pipeline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subdude Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 I believe I read once that the north canal project was originally proposed in the 1930s, after the floods of that era. Seems like an excessively long time to come to fruition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilcal Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 I believe the north canal is shown in the newish renderings I saw at the NHHIP open house last night: https://www.houstonarchitecture.com/haif/topic/28553-the-pierce-elevatedi-59-redesign-thread/?page=52&tab=comments#comment-576090 Specifically this rendering: https://i.imgur.com/VhbaXoJ.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pablog Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 25 minutes ago, wilcal said: I believe the north canal is shown in the newish renderings I saw at the NHHIP open house last night: https://www.houstonarchitecture.com/haif/topic/28553-the-pierce-elevatedi-59-redesign-thread/?page=52&tab=comments#comment-576090 Specifically this rendering: https://i.imgur.com/VhbaXoJ.jpg Yes, I actually talked to the city planner for this poster, and he was telling me how that area is mainly industrial and that it floods a lot. We talked about the possibility of creating a wildlife Island park similar to Stanley Park in Vancouver; which would help reduce flooding in the area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilcal Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 15 minutes ago, pablog said: Yes, I actually talked to the city planner for this poster, and he was telling me how that area is mainly industrial and that it floods a lot. We talked about the possibility of creating a wildlife Island park similar to Stanley Park in Vancouver; which would help reduce flooding in the area. Stanley Park is amazing. If there is any chance of anything like that then that would be incredible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigereye Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 7 hours ago, wilcal said: I believe the north canal is shown in the newish renderings I saw at the NHHIP open house last night: https://www.houstonarchitecture.com/haif/topic/28553-the-pierce-elevatedi-59-redesign-thread/?page=52&tab=comments#comment-576090 Specifically this rendering: https://i.imgur.com/VhbaXoJ.jpg The wetlands/retention ponds could be a great idea, if done correctly. Does this supplant the earlier idea below of TXDOT constructing a South Canal as part of the 45 Reroute? On 3/21/2018 at 8:38 AM, cspwal said: Another canal is being proposed by TxDot along with the 45 re-route, according to the Chronicle article. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilcal Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 12 hours ago, tigereye said: Does this supplant the earlier idea below of TXDOT constructing a South Canal as part of the 45 Reroute? I actually asked about the south canal and I was told it wasn't going to happen, but the guy didn't sound so sure of himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronTiger Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 So, replacing the six bridges...okay, Ella Blvd. and 18th, fine, you could keep at least one open at any given time. 11th? Use T.C. Jester. But...replacing Yale? They just DID that. Are you saying that they're going to tear down a bridge that is currently less than 2 years old? The old bridge was over 80 before they wrecked it! (And they wouldn't tear down and rebuild an abandoned bridge, would they?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 15 hours ago, IronTiger said: So, replacing the six bridges...okay, Ella Blvd. and 18th, fine, you could keep at least one open at any given time. 11th? Use T.C. Jester. But...replacing Yale? They just DID that. Are you saying that they're going to tear down a bridge that is currently less than 2 years old? The old bridge was over 80 before they wrecked it! (And they wouldn't tear down and rebuild an abandoned bridge, would they?) The Yale bridge was built too low,and is an impediment during high water events. The rail bridge next to it is still there, because it can't be removed without a study that details the downstream impacts. Rebuilding the 11th Street bridge would be a giant pain in the ass, since the next bridge is at 18th Street. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H-Town Man Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 On 8/30/2018 at 8:14 PM, tigereye said: The wetlands/retention ponds could be a great idea, if done correctly. Does this supplant the earlier idea below of TXDOT constructing a South Canal as part of the 45 Reroute? It seems like if you build too many bypasses, you speed up water flow to the point where erosion becomes a very substantial problem. Erosion was significant during Harvey. Throws into doubt the wisdom of spending millions on parks along the bayou if they could erode away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 7 hours ago, H-Town Man said: It seems like if you build too many bypasses, you speed up water flow to the point where erosion becomes a very substantial problem. Erosion was significant during Harvey. Throws into doubt the wisdom of spending millions on parks along the bayou if they could erode away. The parks didn't erode, they were buried under silt from upstream, at least from the dog park going downstream. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H-Town Man Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 14 minutes ago, Ross said: The parks didn't erode, they were buried under silt from upstream, at least from the dog park going downstream. There was also significant erosion. Sidewalks collapsing because they were hollowed out underneath, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UtterlyUrban Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 1 hour ago, H-Town Man said: There was also significant erosion. Sidewalks collapsing because they were hollowed out underneath, etc. Yes, there were several areas of the park, down by the edge of the bayou where the sidewalk collapsed because of erosion. I am not sure if that has been fixed or if those sections remain closed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kbates2 Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 I only knew of one collapsed section which is just west of Spaghetti Warehouse and on the south side of the bayou. That section has not been repaired yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H-Town Man Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 Significant erosion also in the areas near Midway's planned development. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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