H-Town Man Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 Just now, shasta said: You answered your own question University of Illinois AT Chicago... There is a hierarchy within the system. The University of Houston (main Campus) is different...It is the FLAGSHIP campus in the University of Houston system. It will rise as high as it leaders want it to rise and has the location to rise. The University of Texas may chose to hold back, say, the University of Texas- San Antonio, because they do NOT want it to overshadow their flagship campus, the University of Texas - Austin. Another example...the flagship University of Alabama may hold back the University of Alabama- Birmingham for the same reason. Actually, they did vote to dissolve their football program to concentrate efforts into their flagship 'Bama but had to retract after the backlash. The only thing holding back the University of Houston was not allowing them access to the PUF but they have found a way around that. You are taking a narrow view of the word "system." The whole collection of Texas public universities loosely constitutes a system. The state has historically decided to give priority funding to UT (Austin), secondary funding to A&M (College Station), and tertiary funding to everyone else. Can you think of many instances where the historical flagship public university of a state was unseated in that role by another public school? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H-Town Man Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 Looks like UT is keeping 80 acres to ground lease to someone and selling the other 220 acres. They also are apparently doing environmental remediation of the land, which is a nice benefit for Houston. Based on how much they paid to assemble it, I think they will suffer a huge loss on this when all is said and done. https://www.costar.com/article/51236804/biggest-lot-of-its-kind-in-the-country-for-sale-near-major-medical-complex 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triton Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 Hope this prediction doesn't come to pass but I honestly wouldn't be surprised if this turned into a massive townhome development... 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Clean19 Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 Move the UT campus to East River site 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luminare Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 Not surprised by this announcement. With the rise of TMC3, and the ability to collaborate with other schools and organizations, it makes this concept obsolete. TMC3 is also less of a risk than it would be to build an entire campus yourself. I think they will invest in their campus which will be at the southern tip of TMC3. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobruss Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 (edited) I'm proud of what UT has done for Texas, the medical center and the world. It's a great University. I get it. My wife works for UT nursing and has enjoyed her employment. I think we all owe the UT system a debt of gratitude for what they've done with some of their PUF money in building an enormous medical program unequalled to most anywhere. If they want to build a research only facility on that property thats fine. But don't tell me that the way they went about acquiring the land, and making the proposal under the table wasn't against the rule. Then plans appear that sure look like a college campus complete with athletic fields. That wouldn't get UT or A& M upset if U of H had tried this in Austin or Bryan. Heck A&M went berserk when we wanted to open a campus in the Woodlands. I just hate the fact that so much money goes to two state systems and the other state schools have to beg for money from the legislature. I'm happy that UT, TAMU, and Rice are all world class and hope they continue to be. I just want the best for University of Houston, and I think this PUF program stinks and should be re allotted more fairly. As far as University of Houston becoming great. Well I personally think we're pretty great right now. Especially considering the disparity in funding. We just finished a billion dollar fund raising campaign that has been topped off by an anonymous donor with a 50 million dollar matching grant donation. We're doing just fine over on Cullen blvd. and we'll compete with the big boys, but it sure would be nice to have some of that PUF. So go ahead UT and A&M build those research centers and help the city grow. Just share with us the money. And who else could hire Matthew McConaughey as a professor. Edited August 29, 2019 by bobruss 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kbates2 Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 7 hours ago, H-Town Man said: You are taking a narrow view of the word "system." The whole collection of Texas public universities loosely constitutes a system. The state has historically decided to give priority funding to UT (Austin), secondary funding to A&M (College Station), and tertiary funding to everyone else. Can you think of many instances where the historical flagship public university of a state was unseated in that role by another public school? This more or less the best way to describe the Texas public university "system". The state truly funds one system and it is broken into several. This fact only further shows the ridiculousness of establishing a UT Houston as "competition" for UH. There is one wallet; that wallet has leather dividers that allocate much more cash to one section than the next but to pretend that the wallet competing with itself is capitalism or anything other than a waste of money and a chance for UT fans to have their logo in this city is a pretty hard sell. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highrise Tower Posted September 1, 2019 Share Posted September 1, 2019 Took a photo of the old for sale sign before it's swamped out for JLL's. Believe these signs are super old. They have been around even before UT bought the land. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highrise Tower Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 RFI for the 80 acres. https://www.utsystem.edu/offices/real-estate/rfpsrfqsrfis/requests-information-rfis Quote RFI No.: 720-1930 Request for Information - Ground Lease and/or Joint Development of approximately 80 Acres of Land west of Buffalo Speedway and bisected by Willowbend Boulevard, Houston, Texas. Response Due Date: Friday, September 27, 2019 Response Due Time: 5:00PM Central Daylight Saving Time 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highrise Tower Posted September 28, 2019 Share Posted September 28, 2019 Here are the vacant metal industrial buildings on southern parcel the that were spoken about. Also the cell tower and old water tower. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fortune Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 So is UT not selling the land? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highrise Tower Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 22 hours ago, Fortune said: So is UT not selling the land? It's confusing. Bunch of tracts and parcels involved. UT owns 305 acres. Believe 216 acres of that is for sale. UT will develop the remaining 80 acres.. Is my take of things. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highrise Tower Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 HFF/JLL's Executive Summary has been released. https://www.hfflp.com/property-details.html?propId=9111 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highrise Tower Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 The industrial site is being dismantled and cleaned up. Last week: Yesterday: Removing chemicals and the barrels that were dumped on the side of the road. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highrise Tower Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 The industrial complex is Orkin Industrial Surplus. Located at 701 Holmes Road. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highrise Tower Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 JTB Demolition was out today. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highrise Tower Posted April 17, 2020 Share Posted April 17, 2020 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highrise Tower Posted April 18, 2020 Share Posted April 18, 2020 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highrise Tower Posted April 19, 2020 Share Posted April 19, 2020 Wonder if the water tower is also going. I know it's apart of the complex. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highrise Tower Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 Found something cool today. I discovered the lake that's included in both master plans. The Buffalo Lakes and UT master plans. and on Google. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highrise Tower Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 All buildings have been demolished. Site cleanup continues. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highrise Tower Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 Removing the concrete foundation. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highrise Tower Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 A bit of history here. Embrey was planning on developing Buffalo Lakes multifamily. The name and and location was changed. Embrey's multifamily is now called The Connection at Buffalo Pointe and is located at Buffalo Speedway & W. Bellfort. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highrise Tower Posted May 6, 2020 Share Posted May 6, 2020 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highrise Tower Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 Noticed a permit posted. 701 Holmes is defined as Tract 2-B. Tower is property of Crown Castle with an address of 711 Homes Rd. The water tower is a Horton Waterspear dated 1961. 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hbcu Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 more multifamily or some actual housing on 2500 sq ft lots? I know that's a wish but no more multifamily or townhomes, doesn't promote long term. Once the multifamily gets old then we're back to the same old crap 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texasota Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 Townhomes *are* single family homes, and they're not going away. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilcal Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 7 hours ago, hbcu said: more multifamily or some actual housing on 2500 sq ft lots? I know that's a wish but no more multifamily or townhomes, doesn't promote long term. Once the multifamily gets old then we're back to the same old crap What type of "actual housing" were you anticipating on a 2500 sq ft lot that isn't a townhome? Also, multifamily and townhomes are actual housing. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hbcu Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 actual neighborhoods with space between the homes - like the neighborhoods that are south or west of them. We have enough multifamily / townhome communities nearby. I meant 2500 square foot home at least. But we know its about cramming them in like sardines so that's a longshot 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H-Town Man Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 47 minutes ago, hbcu said: actual neighborhoods with space between the homes - like the neighborhoods that are south or west of them. We have enough multifamily / townhome communities nearby. I meant 2500 square foot home at least. But we know its about cramming them in like sardines so that's a longshot It's about developing the land to the highest return on investment. With the land being worth what it is, I doubt you could get any return with tract homes. Times have changed. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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