musicman Posted February 5, 2008 Share Posted February 5, 2008 nothing now.Where you at niche, to re-explain yo'self?give him a few, he's solving the global warming crisis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LTAWACS Posted February 6, 2008 Share Posted February 6, 2008 This is exactly what the Near North Side needs!Long, long overdue! Maybe someone can take pics of the groundbreaking and progress? I can go by there today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedScare Posted February 6, 2008 Share Posted February 6, 2008 nothing now.Where you at niche, to re-explain yo'self?niche thinks it won't be for a while, years. i tend to agree.If you google the Victory Park development, a similar sized former industrial site, you'll see that it took years to get it moving. They started remediation in 1996. They broke ground for the arena in 1999. They did not announce any residential or office components until 2003, 7 years later. Even now, 12 years later, only 7 or 8 buildings are built or under construction.It takes awhile to do projects this big, and only a few developers can even attempt it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jax Posted February 6, 2008 Share Posted February 6, 2008 If you google the Victory Park development, a similar sized former industrial site, you'll see that it took years to get it moving. They started remediation in 1996. They broke ground for the arena in 1999. They did not announce any residential or office components until 2003, 7 years later. Even now, 12 years later, only 7 or 8 buildings are built or under construction.It takes awhile to do projects this big, and only a few developers can even attempt it.So how long in comparison has the Hardy Rail Yard project been in progress? Have they been working on remediation or is that only starting now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedScare Posted February 6, 2008 Share Posted February 6, 2008 So how long in comparison has the Hardy Rail Yard project been in progress? Have they been working on remediation or is that only starting now?The property was purchased over 2 years ago from the railroad, and remediation is largely completed. It is now a matter of a developer coming up with a marketable project for the site, securing financing, and starting to build. In the current climate, in spite of Houston's relatively insulated state, developers and lenders are likely being very careful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tierwestah Posted February 6, 2008 Share Posted February 6, 2008 ^^^ So how does this tie in to the planned intermodal station that Metro is planning on? Is there remediation work being done on the portion of land that's slated for that project? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
musicman Posted February 6, 2008 Share Posted February 6, 2008 ^^^ So how does this tie in to the planned intermodal station that Metro is planning on? Is there remediation work being done on the portion of land that's slated for that project?METRO is still working to overcome union pacific's statement that their tracks can't be used for commuter rail. seems METRO developed the proposal with the assumption that the use of the tracks was a given. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedScare Posted February 6, 2008 Share Posted February 6, 2008 METRO is still working to overcome union pacific's statement that their tracks can't be used for commuter rail. seems METRO developed the proposal with the assumption that the use of the tracks was a given.It is important to realize that this is merely musicman's opinion. UP's comments sounded much more like politics than fact. MY opinion is that UP made the remarks to ding METRO, at the request of Harris County politicos, who also are talking of cranking up commuter rail in that same corridor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
musicman Posted February 6, 2008 Share Posted February 6, 2008 (edited) It is important to realize that this is merely musicman's opinion.just paraphrasing the chron and KTRK story, not my opinion. Edited February 6, 2008 by musicman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedScare Posted February 6, 2008 Share Posted February 6, 2008 just paraphrasing the chron and KTRK story, not my opinion.Your 2nd sentence was. That's fine. I just wanted to put my opinion up there in response to yours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
musicman Posted February 6, 2008 Share Posted February 6, 2008 Your 2nd sentence was. That's fine. I just wanted to put my opinion up there in response to yours.that was the UP version according to the story. i do agree that politicos will ultimately decide its fate. IMO it is longer term project vs the new rail lines METRO is concentrating on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heights_yankee Posted March 18, 2008 Share Posted March 18, 2008 Does anyone know anything else about this development? (I didn't want to hijack the thread below so I started a new one)This is from a listing on HAR.comhttp://search.har.com/engine/disphrpic.cfm...Houston%2077009 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNiche Posted March 18, 2008 Share Posted March 18, 2008 Does anyone know anything else about this development? (I didn't want to hijack the thread below so I started a new one)This is from a listing on HAR.comhttp://search.har.com/engine/disphrpic.cfm...Houston%2077009The Musicman is using outdated marketing materials for a project that was entirely comprised of marketing hype in the first place to try and market a plot of land nearby that would hypothetically benefit from the development of Hardy Yards, which isn't happening in the forseeable future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heights_yankee Posted March 18, 2008 Share Posted March 18, 2008 wow! what an ___ it says in the listing that development "will" start in 2008. how do we go about checking on these things (besides posting here, that is)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNiche Posted March 18, 2008 Share Posted March 18, 2008 wow! what an ___ it says in the listing that development "will" start in 2008. how do we go about checking on these things (besides posting here, that is)?CBRE was trying to sell this in November 2006 as raw land. They provide conceptual renderings, but that's all they are. There are no restrictions upon what a prospective buyer could use the land for.There is no Hardy Yards project. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tierwestah Posted May 8, 2008 Share Posted May 8, 2008 I'm thinking this project is scrapped. I drove north of downtown over by UHD at the site and all the developer signs that said: Cushman and Wakefield and Urban Village were taken down. Oh well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PuroAztlan Posted May 8, 2008 Share Posted May 8, 2008 I'm thinking this project is scrapped.Big surprise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lockmat Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 (edited) I know niche and others are saying nothing is going on. I know this presentation is old, but I thought I'd mention it anyway. http://www.uli-houston.org/PDF/060328HardyYards.pptIt says January '09 for groundbreaking and that it would start after the san jacinto bridge was completed. Has that been done?Anyway, just thought it was interesting. Wanted to see if anyone has heard something new concerning that land. Edited July 22, 2008 by lockmat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wernicke Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 Ya... too bad this is never gonna happen. Maybe something similar and/or better will happen in the next decade though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tanith27 Posted August 1, 2008 Share Posted August 1, 2008 In this St Arnolds article, they do make mention of the Hardy Yards project briefly, with that being one reason St Arnolds chose the location to build. Hmmm. Maybe its not as dead as we think? Just in hibernation?http://www.globest.com/news/1212_1212/houston/172776-1.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lockmat Posted August 1, 2008 Share Posted August 1, 2008 In this St Arnolds article, they do make mention of the Hardy Yards project briefly, with that being one reason St Arnolds chose the location to build. Hmmm. Maybe its not as dead as we think? Just in hibernation?http://www.globest.com/news/1212_1212/houston/172776-1.htmlInteresting.The building also is near the 50-acre Hardy Yards project, a mixed-use, urban development that's in the planning stages. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rsb320 Posted August 1, 2008 Share Posted August 1, 2008 Kind of funny - St. Arnold's new facility is between a park and a junkyard. Good neighbors on one side and bad neighbors on the other. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PuroAztlan Posted August 1, 2008 Share Posted August 1, 2008 Kind of funny - St. Arnold's new facility is between a park and a junkyard. Good neighbors on one side and bad neighbors on the other. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNiche Posted August 1, 2008 Share Posted August 1, 2008 Kind of funny - St. Arnold's new facility is between a park and a junkyard. Good neighbors on one side and bad neighbors on the other.In a 'rustic' neighborhood like that one, the junkyard makes the better neighbor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uhlaw09 Posted March 4, 2009 Share Posted March 4, 2009 Just found a Public Notice that METRO released in February regarding demolitions on the Intermodal Terminal Lot. The Notice states that the purpose of the demolitions is "to make way for development associated with the Light Rail expansion." The demolitions are supposed to be completed by the end of March, per the Release. Here is a Composite Map of the Demolitions: Composite MapProperties include: 1101 Naylor Street (map)1115 Naylor Street (map)800 Burnett Street (map)Here is the Notice: http://metrosolutions.org/go/doc/1068/223165/Page on which the Notice appears (METRO Solutions front page): http://metrosolutions.org/go/site/1068/Thoughts? Insight? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeebus Posted March 5, 2009 Share Posted March 5, 2009 Thanks for the map! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tanith27 Posted March 5, 2009 Share Posted March 5, 2009 I read that the budget approved yesterday for rail did not set aside anything for the Intermodal. So I guess it's still a long way off? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian0123 Posted March 5, 2009 Share Posted March 5, 2009 Just found a Public Notice that METRO released in February regarding demolitions on the Intermodal Terminal Lot.Is the Intermodial Terminal the place that people keep thinking Greyhound could eventually move to? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uhlaw09 Posted March 5, 2009 Share Posted March 5, 2009 Is the Intermodial Terminal the place that people keep thinking Greyhound could eventually move to?Yes--and when looking at it in that context, this needs to happen immediately (though it probably won't happen for several years). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
musicman Posted March 5, 2009 Share Posted March 5, 2009 Yes--and when looking at it in that context, this needs to happen immediately (though it probably won't happen for several years).there's no incentive for them to move. they own their current facility vs going where they most likely won't Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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