mattyt36 Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 On 3/1/2019 at 12:35 AM, j_cuevas713 said: Wow we finally moved up! I can’t believe we’re an alpha city 😮 Not sure how I missed this ... this IS news. Wow! It’s been a while since I looked at the list but it does seem rather skewed for European cities. Prague, Budapest, Dublin, Stockholm, Lisbon, and (especially) Luxembourg seem way overrated, all rated the same as Amsterdam. You must score points for being a national capital. Likewise, Warsaw and Milan as Alpha cities seems to be a bit of an overstatement. I seem to recall a couple of years ago Houston was one notch below Dallas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattyt36 Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 Yes it’s true, Dallas, Atlanta, and Boston all previously had Alpha- ranking in 2008 but have since been downgraded. Would love to know how Houston somehow came to outrank Dallas and Boston (Atlanta I get) given their own superior economic statistics since then. Maybe the data lag by 2 (or more) years. It also seems to be the case that the list as shown are relative rankings. And Houston has been behind Dallas and Atlanta (sometimes way behind both) in every year except this one. Seems like they must have changed their criteria. (Of course I’m biased so I think this new criteria is more representative!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houston19514 Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 8 hours ago, mattyt36 said: Yes it’s true, Dallas, Atlanta, and Boston all previously had Alpha- ranking in 2008 but have since been downgraded. Would love to know how Houston somehow came to outrank Dallas and Boston (Atlanta I get) given their own superior economic statistics since then. Maybe the data lag by 2 (or more) years. It also seems to be the case that the list as shown are relative rankings. And Houston has been behind Dallas and Atlanta (sometimes way behind both) in every year except this one. Seems like they must have changed their criteria. (Of course I’m biased so I think this new criteria is more representative!) In 2008, Atlanta was Beta+, Dallas and Boston were Beta and Houston was Beta- https://www.lboro.ac.uk/gawc/images/world2008t.jpg FWIW, in 2004, Atlanta was Beta and Dallas, Boston and Houston were all Beta- In 2010, Boston, Dallas and Atlanta were Alpha-, Houston was Beta+alpha In 2012, Boston and Atlanta were Alpha-, Dallas and Houston were Beta+ In 2016 and 2017, all 4 were Beta+ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattyt36 Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 2 hours ago, Houston19514 said: In 2008, Atlanta was Beta+, Dallas and Boston were Beta and Houston was Beta- https://www.lboro.ac.uk/gawc/images/world2008t.jpg FWIW, in 2004, Atlanta was Beta and Dallas, Boston and Houston were all Beta- In 2010, Boston, Dallas and Atlanta were Alpha-, Houston was Beta+alpha In 2012, Boston and Atlanta were Alpha-, Dallas and Houston were Beta+ In 2016 and 2017, all 4 were Beta+ Since the list is not alphabetical or organized by geography, I can only assume it is a relative ranking. Houston ranked below all 3 in every year I can find. https://www.lboro.ac.uk/gawc/gawcworlds.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twinsanity02 Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 The group that designated Houston an Alpha city is based out of the UK. They are called GaWC. I do not know what ranking Houston may have via other organizations. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enriquewx91 Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 Can anyone tell me what's going up on the corner of Pease and Caroline? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cspwal Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 U-haul is upgrading from a half block, single story building with a parking lot for trucks on the roof, to a multi-story storage building (with I assume some parking for U-haul trucks because how else are you going to get your crap to and from the storage place) Quote I talked with the guy collecting the cement samples and said it was going to be a 6 stories high U-Haul storage. 4 stories of storage and 2 of their retail store. He said that they saw a need for a storage with all the people moving downtown. - Hinedesky 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timoric Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 (edited) - Edited July 12, 2019 by Timoric 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twinsanity02 Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 3 hours ago, Timoric said: Not a bad decade 2010-2020 (I fudged a little taking buildings completing a few years after) Source: http://www.skyscrapercenter.com/city/houston Building Name Height (ft) Floors Completion 609 Main at Texas 755 48 2017 Texas Tower 735 47 2021 BG Group Place 632 46 2011 Capitol Tower 579 34 2019 The Preston 550 46 2022 2929 Weslayan 533 40 2015 Methodist Outpatient Care Center 512 26 2010 Market Square Tower 502 40 2017 The Post Oak 499 36 2018 Hess Tower 490 29 2010 1500 Post Oak Boulevard 477 30 2016 Hanover River Oaks 462 38 2020 Texas Children`s Hospital Expansion 457 25 2018 Latitude Med Center 423 35 2018 M.D. Anderson Administrative Support Building 415 25 2012 Residences at La Colombe d’Or 400 34 2020 Arabella 399 33 2018 Methodist Inpatient Hospital 395 17 2018 Aris Market Square 371 32 2017 Marriott Marquis Houston 371 28 2016 Amegy Tower 354 24 2016 3300 Main 351 28 2020 Hilcorp Energy Tower 346 23 2016 The Kirby Collection Residential Tower 340 22 2017 Le Meridien Hotel 338 25 2017 Catalyst 334 28 2017 Post Oak 330 29 2014 Hanover Montrose 326 30 2016 Astoria 322 25 2016 SkyHouse River Oaks 284 25 2015 The Southmore 284 24 2017 The Sovereign 280 21 2014 SkyHouse Houston 275 24 2014 Texas Children's Hospital Pavilion for Women 269 14 2012 Hotel Alessandra 263 21 2017 SkyHouse Main 262 24 2016 Vantage Med Center 260 22 2017 6565 MD Anderson Boulevard 253 13 2014 Jan and Dan Duncan Neurological Research Institute 252 13 2010 Two BriarLake Plaza 251 18 2014 InterContinental Houston Medical Center 244 21 2019 The Carter 224 20 2017 Innovation Tower 48 2021 Tower at Hermann Place 42 2020 Noble Energy Center Two 20 2015 I count 46, since SkyHouse Main are twins. Thanks for your work Timoric. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houston19514 Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 (edited) As impressive as that is, Skyscraper Center is frustratingly incomplete. Incorporating information from Emporis, the list looks like this (I count 85, not including Innovation Tower and Tower at Hermann Place, which I think are both still pretty speculative): Edit: Add Hyatt Regency Galleria 186' 14 floors 2015 Building Name Height (ft) Floors Completion 609 Main at Texas 755 48 2017 Texas Tower 735 47 2021 BG Group Place 632 46 2011 Capitol Tower 579 34 2019 The Preston 550 46 2022 2929 Weslayan 533 40 2015 Methodist Outpatient Care Center 512 26 2010 Market Square Tower 502 40 2017 The Post Oak 499 36 2018 Hess Tower 490 29 2010 1500 Post Oak Boulevard 477 30 2016 Hanover River Oaks 462 38 2020 Texas Children`s Hospital Expansion 457 25 2018 Vantage Post Oak 453 40 2018 Latitude Med Center 423 35 2018 M.D. Anderson Administrative Support Building 415 25 2012 Residences at La Colombe d’Or 400 34 2020 Arabella 399 33 2018 Methodist Inpatient Hospital 395 17 2018 Sarofim Pavilion (Memorial Hermann) 380 15 2019 Hanover BLVD Place 375 30 2019 Aris Market Square 371 32 2017 Marriott Marquis Houston 371 28 2016 Energy Center Four 355 22 2016 Amegy Tower 354 24 2016 3300 Main 351 28 2020 Hilcorp Energy Tower 346 23 2016 The Driscoll at River Oaks 345 29 2021 The Kirby Collection Residential Tower 340 22 2017 Le Meridien Hotel 338 25 2017 Catalyst 334 28 2017 Hanover Post Oak 330 29 2014 2850 Fannin (Caydon) 328 28 2019 Belfiore 328 26 2016 Hanover Montrose 326 30 2016 Millenium Tower II 326 22 2015 The Sterling at Memorial Villages 322 27 2010 Astoria 322 25 2016 Energy Center Three 317 20 2014 Noble Energy Center Two 307 20 2015 Energy Center Five 302 18 2016 Air Liquide Center I 301 20 2015 3737 Buffalo Speedway 290 18 2015 SkyHouse River Oaks 284 25 2015 The Southmore 284 24 2017 BBVA Compass Plaza 280 22 2013 The Sovereign 280 21 2014 Westin Houston Memorial City 278 22 2010 SkyHouse Houston 275 24 2014 M5250 274 22 2013 3009 Post Oak Boulevard 274 20 2013 Phillips 66 South Tower 274 16 2016 Texas Children’s Hospital Pavilion for Women 269 14 2012 Hotel Alessandra 263 21 2017 SkyHouse Main 262 24 2016 Vantage Med Center 260 22 2017 Camden Downtown I 255 21 2020 Marlowe 255 20 2018 6565 MD Anderson Boulevard 253 13 2014 Energy Tower III 252 17 2014 Jan and Dan Duncan Neurological Research Institute 252 13 2010 Two BriarLake Plaza 251 18 2014 InterContinental Houston Medical Center 244 21 2019 Embassy Suites Hotel Downtown 242 19 2011 Phillips 66 North Tower 242 14 2016 Hotel ZaZa Memorial City 228 17 2017 Houston Methodist Research Institute 226 12 2010 Murphy Exploration Building 225 14 2013 The Carter 224 20 2017 San Felipe Place 223 17 2015 Nexen Center 219 14 2012 Hyatt Place Houston Galleria 218 12 2016 One Grove Street 216 16 2016 Residnce Inn Medical Center 214 16 2019 West Memorial Place II 212 14 2016 The Wilshire 208 17 2017 The Blossom Hotel 203 16 2019 Kirby Collection Office Building 202 13 2017 City Center Five 194 15 2015 Hampton Inn/Homewood Suites Downtown 192 14 2016 Briarpark Green 192 12 2013 West Memorial Place I 190 12 2015 Highland Tower 186 17 2010 Gables Westcreek 173 15 2020 Brazos Towers at Bayou Manor 173 14 2015 Innovation Tower 638 48 2021 Tower at Hermann Place 559 42 2020 Noble Energy Center Two 307 20 2015 Edited March 19, 2019 by Houston19514 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houston19514 Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 List from prior post revised to add Hyatt Regency Galleria and suburban area buildings (primarily The Woodlands) The count is up to 93, not including Innovation Tower and Tower at Hermann Place: Building Name Height (ft) Floors Completion 609 Main at Texas 755 48 2017 Texas Tower 735 47 2021 BG Group Place 632 46 2011 Capitol Tower 579 34 2019 The Preston 550 46 2022 2929 Weslayan 533 40 2015 Methodist Outpatient Care Center 512 26 2010 Market Square Tower 502 40 2017 The Post Oak 499 36 2018 Hess Tower 490 29 2010 1500 Post Oak Boulevard 477 30 2016 Hanover River Oaks 462 38 2020 Texas Children`s Hospital Expansion 457 25 2018 Vantage Post Oak 453 40 2018 Latitude Med Center 423 35 2018 M.D. Anderson Administrative Support Building 415 25 2012 Hackett Tower (The Woodlands) 408 31 2014 Residences at La Colombe d’Or 400 34 2020 Arabella 399 33 2018 Methodist Inpatient Hospital 395 17 2018 Sarofim Pavilion (Memorial Hermann) 380 15 2019 Hanover BLVD Place 375 30 2019 Aris Market Square 371 32 2017 Marriott Marquis Houston 371 28 2016 Energy Center Four 355 22 2016 Amegy Tower 354 24 2016 3300 Main 351 28 2020 Hilcorp Energy Tower 346 23 2016 The Driscoll at River Oaks 345 29 2021 The Kirby Collection Residential Tower 340 22 2017 Le Meridien Hotel 338 25 2017 Catalyst 334 28 2017 Hanover Post Oak 330 29 2014 2850 Fannin (Caydon) 328 28 2019 Belfiore 328 26 2016 Hanover Montrose 326 30 2016 Millenium Tower II 326 22 2015 The Sterling at Memorial Villages 322 27 2010 Astoria 322 25 2016 Energy Center Three 317 20 2014 Noble Energy Center Two 307 20 2015 Energy Center Five 302 18 2016 Air Liquide Center I 301 20 2015 3737 Buffalo Speedway 290 18 2015 SkyHouse River Oaks 284 25 2015 The Southmore 284 24 2017 BBVA Compass Plaza 280 22 2013 The Sovereign 280 21 2014 Westin Houston Memorial City 278 22 2010 SkyHouse Houston 275 24 2014 M5250 274 22 2013 3009 Post Oak Boulevard 274 20 2013 Phillips 66 South Tower 274 16 2016 Texas Children’s Hospital Pavilion for Women 269 14 2012 Hotel Alessandra 263 21 2017 SkyHouse Main 262 24 2016 Vantage Med Center 260 22 2017 Camden Downtown I 255 21 2020 Marlowe 255 20 2018 6565 MD Anderson Boulevard 253 13 2014 Energy Tower III 252 17 2014 Jan and Dan Duncan Neurological Research Institute 252 13 2010 Two BriarLake Plaza 251 18 2014 InterContinental Houston Medical Center 244 21 2019 Embassy Suites Hotel Downtown 242 19 2011 Phillips 66 North Tower 242 14 2016 Hotel ZaZa Memorial City 228 17 2017 Houston Methodist Research Institute 226 12 2010 Murphy Exploration Building 225 14 2013 The Carter 224 20 2017 San Felipe Place 223 17 2015 Nexen Center 219 14 2012 Hyatt Place Houston Galleria 218 12 2016 One Grove Street 216 16 2016 Residnce Inn Medical Center 214 16 2019 West Memorial Place II 212 14 2016 The Wilshire 208 17 2017 The Blossom Hotel 203 16 2019 Kirby Collection Office Building 202 13 2017 City Center Five 194 15 2015 Hampton Inn/Homewood Suites Downtown 192 14 2016 Briarpark Green 192 12 2013 West Memorial Place I 190 12 2015 Highland Tower 186 17 2010 Hyatt Regency Galleria 186 14 2015 Southwestern Energy Building 180 10 2014 Gables Westcreek 173 15 2020 Brazos Towers at Bayou Manor 173 14 2015 1725 Hughes Landing Boulevard 171 13 2015 ABS Plaza 167 10 2018 The Westin The Woodlands 163 12 2016 1735 Hughes Landing Boulevard 158 12 2015 Three Hughes Landing 158 12 2015 Research Forest Lakeside IV 158 12 2014 Innovation Tower 638 48 2021 Tower at Hermann Place 559 42 2020 Noble Energy Center Two 307 20 2015 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twinsanity02 Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 (edited) Population numbers for the Houston MSA in from the Census Bureau. July 2018 6,997,384. Rounding this is either an increase of 105,000 if you take the previous 2017 numbers of 6,892,000 or 92,000 if you take the revised 2017 numbers of 6,905,695. A pattern in the census bureau data is Houston MSA is revised upward by 10,000 to 15,000 after the initial release. Edited April 18, 2019 by Twinsanity02 additional information 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twinsanity02 Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 Population numbers for the Houston MSA in from the Census Bureau. July 1, 2018 6,997,384. Rounding this is either an increase of 105,000 if you take the previous 2017 numbers of 6,892,000 or 92,000 if you take the revised 2017 numbers of 6,905,695. Nevertheless at a growth rate of over 1700 people per week we are clearly over 7 million. I will stop obsessing about this topic now. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arche_757 Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 4 hours ago, Twinsanity02 said: Population numbers for the Houston MSA in from the Census Bureau. July 1, 2018 6,997,384. Rounding this is either an increase of 105,000 if you take the previous 2017 numbers of 6,892,000 or 92,000 if you take the revised 2017 numbers of 6,905,695. Nevertheless at a growth rate of over 1700 people per week we are clearly over 7 million. I will stop obsessing about this topic now. I thought I was one of the few! I’ve routinely said we’re at, or over 7,000,000 for the last several months. Pretty impressive! When I started college in 2001 we had about 4.1 million people here in town. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toxtethogrady Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 On 4/18/2019 at 5:07 PM, Twinsanity02 said: Population numbers for the Houston MSA in from the Census Bureau. July 1, 2018 6,997,384. Rounding this is either an increase of 105,000 if you take the previous 2017 numbers of 6,892,000 or 92,000 if you take the revised 2017 numbers of 6,905,695. Nevertheless at a growth rate of over 1700 people per week we are clearly over 7 million. I will stop obsessing about this topic now. The numbers underwent some major revision, as there was one year (2017) that was previously identified by census as a no-growth year, but it has since been revised upward. Over a million in one decade. Still on track to surpass the Chicago metro in less than 25 years.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houston19514 Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 17 hours ago, toxtethogrady said: The numbers underwent some major revision, as there was one year (2017) that was previously identified by census as a no-growth year, but it has since been revised upward. Over a million in one decade. Still on track to surpass the Chicago metro in less than 25 years.... Not true. The initial estimates for 2017 population showed Houston growing 94,417 from the prior year. The revised numbers show 2016-17 growth of 93,435. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twinsanity02 Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 (edited) Got these numbers from the Census Bureau ( except 2011 data). Think they are fairly accurate though even the Bureau alters their numbers somewhat. Anyway it show a very healthy growth of over 1 million in eight years or 134,000 per year. Houston Year Total Change MSA MSA Population Population 2010 5920416 2011 6057412 136996 2012 6175466 118054 2013 6313809 138343 2014 6497864 184055 2015 6647465 149601 2016 6798010 150545 2017 6905695 107685 2018 6997384 91689 Change 1076968 Per year 134621 Edited April 25, 2019 by Twinsanity02 additional information 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toxtethogrady Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 Census keeps the previous estimates, so the revisions can be looked at. One day when I feel up to looking at the older estimates, I may see what revisions were made every year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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bobruss Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 4 hours ago, Timoric said: DFW will get there first unfortunately, they have maintained a stubborn lead, I always hope it will change but it doesn't Relax, and remember they have to combine two cities to do that. We just count all of our suburban areas. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtNsf Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 7 hours ago, Timoric said: DFW will get there first unfortunately, they have maintained a stubborn lead, I always hope it will change but it doesn't No, they will not get their first. You are talking about MSA numbers, which are completely different (and also are not as widely accepted as they can be a bit more arbitrary and un-precise.) We are talking about CITY populations, not combined regions of various medium sized cities like dfw etc... Houston will probably get passed Chicago in less than 5 years as I see it, and easily we have already surpassed 7 million Houston area residents by this time as we are in 2019 and thus, the census may show the world some big Houston changes and surprises over the past 10 years or so. I'm excited for it and Houston is a fantastic place to live and to be at this time in history. Keep up the good work Houston ! 7 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triton Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 Google Earth updated for Feb 23rd 2019 now! Check out all that new development. Discussion here: 5 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nate4l1f3 Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 18 hours ago, Triton said: Google Earth updated for Feb 23rd 2019 now! Check out all that new development. Discussion here: I shouldn’t be as excited as I am lol 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSirDingle Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 I always had a problem with people leaving out Fort Worth, when it comes to metro population talks. It's like they forget there's a city of almost 900,000 people right by Dallas. What I'm getting at is, without Fort Worth (taking in consideration what a Fort Worth metro population would be); the now Dallas metro wouldn't even be close to the size of Houston's metro. I mean we're 2x the population of Dallas, aren't we? Anyway, Fort Worth should be given a lot of credit, towards getting the DFW metro population to where it is now. But as we all know, Houston is The Giant City of Texas. Now that the rant is over. 1 hour ago, nate4l1f3 said: I shouldn’t be as excited as I am lol Can't wait to spot all the updated parts in google maps! 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houston19514 Posted May 4, 2019 Share Posted May 4, 2019 (edited) 17 hours ago, TheSirDingle said: I always had a problem with people leaving out Fort Worth, when it comes to metro population talks. It's like they forget there's a city of almost 900,000 people right by Dallas. What I'm getting at is, without Fort Worth (taking in consideration what a Fort Worth metro population would be); the now Dallas metro wouldn't even be close to the size of Houston's metro. I mean we're 2x the population of Dallas, aren't we? Anyway, Fort Worth should be given a lot of credit, towards getting the DFW metro population to where it is now. But as we all know, Houston is The Giant City of Texas. Now that the rant is over. Can't wait to spot all the updated parts in google maps! The Dallas-Fort Worth-Arlington Metro Area (2018 estimated population 7,539,711) is divided by the Census Bureau into two divisions: -- Dallas-Plano-Irving (2018 estimated population 5,007,190) and -- Fort Worth-Arlington (2018 estimated population 2,532,521, just a tiny bit larger than the San Antonio-New Braunfels metro area). If we break out the two DFW divisions, the 5 largest in Texas would be: (1) Houston-The Woodlands-Sugar Land (2) Dallas-Plano-Irving (3) Fort Worth-Arlington (4) San Antonio-New Braunfels (SA is gaining on FW) (5) Austin-Round Rock Edited May 4, 2019 by Houston19514 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattyt36 Posted May 6, 2019 Share Posted May 6, 2019 (edited) Dallas-Ft Worth is a humongous blob. There is no center. And people who live on one end only rarely go to the other. At the end of the day, that’s the difference between Dallas and Houston. Houston is also a blob, but, as luck would have it, it’s at the center of the blob, and anyone who lives in the metro area will say they’re from Houston. Go to the “Metroplex,” and you will hear from every other person how much they hate Dallas. Which is a shame. Because Dallas—the city—is a perfectly fine and perfectly livable place (in many ways much nicer than the inner core of Houston). You ask a Houston suburbanite about Houston, they say, “Oh so much traffic.” Or “I hear there’s a lot of crime.” But they never disavow Houston. You ask a DFW suburbanite, they almost universally say, “I hate Dallas (as in the urban core of Dallas). Why would I go there?” It’s absolutely bizarre. Maybe it’s just my experience. Very strange to me that the OMB considers DFW an MSA but not Washington, DC-Baltimore or San Francisco-San Jose. The Boston region is also underrepresented. I suppose that’ll come soon. What then? I guess we would slip big time in the meaningless rankings. I guess our best bet is to tell College Station to work much, much harder and become the next Ft Worth. Edited May 6, 2019 by mattyt36 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H-Town Man Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 On 5/3/2019 at 3:46 PM, TheSirDingle said: I always had a problem with people leaving out Fort Worth, when it comes to metro population talks. It's like they forget there's a city of almost 900,000 people right by Dallas. What I'm getting at is, without Fort Worth (taking in consideration what a Fort Worth metro population would be); the now Dallas metro wouldn't even be close to the size of Houston's metro. I mean we're 2x the population of Dallas, aren't we? Anyway, Fort Worth should be given a lot of credit, towards getting the DFW metro population to where it is now. But as we all know, Houston is The Giant City of Texas. Now that the rant is over. Can't wait to spot all the updated parts in google maps! The combined DFW population has some meaning because it is viewed as a "market size" by many national firms choosing which markets to expand to, do business in, etc. So Dallas tends to get national retail chains before we do; this is also because they are seen as "more like the rest of the nation," partly because of location, partly because of demographics. They also tend to attract companies that want a southwest location or a Texas location. More national real estate brokerages have offices in Dallas (or larger offices) and the Dallas office often handles the whole state. The airport factors in as well; the metro size makes the airport bigger and the airport in turn helps draw more companies to the metro in a virtuous cycle. And believe me, DFW does not shy from using their metro size ("Texas' largest metro!") in marketing themselves. If we ever passed them in metro size, it would be a great coup. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twinsanity02 Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 On 5/6/2019 at 12:43 AM, mattyt36 said: Dallas-Ft Worth is a humongous blob. There is no center. And people who live on one end only rarely go to the other. At the end of the day, that’s the difference between Dallas and Houston. Houston is also a blob, but, as luck would have it, it’s at the center of the blob, and anyone who lives in the metro area will say they’re from Houston. Go to the “Metroplex,” and you will hear from every other person how much they hate Dallas. Which is a shame. Because Dallas—the city—is a perfectly fine and perfectly livable place (in many ways much nicer than the inner core of Houston). You ask a Houston suburbanite about Houston, they say, “Oh so much traffic.” Or “I hear there’s a lot of crime.” But they never disavow Houston. You ask a DFW suburbanite, they almost universally say, “I hate Dallas (as in the urban core of Dallas). Why would I go there?” It’s absolutely bizarre. Maybe it’s just my experience. Very strange to me that the OMB considers DFW an MSA but not Washington, DC-Baltimore or San Francisco-San Jose. The Boston region is also underrepresented. I suppose that’ll come soon. What then? I guess we would slip big time in the meaningless rankings. I guess our best bet is to tell College Station to work much, much harder and become the next Ft Worth. There is a population ranking for world "urban agglomeration" which does that. I believe it is from Germany. There numbers are different from the OBM. Obviously this is not an exact science. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triton Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 It has to be safe to say that we are in a second boom for this decade, with 2011-2014 being the last one. So funny looking back how so many companies (especially CBRE) studying the market after the 2014 downturn said they saw a good recovery come 2018 and 2019.... and they were right! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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