DrLan34 Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 Seems large enough to warrant its own thread, also on a prominent block 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terra002 Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 What a waste of space... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronTiger Posted June 6, 2015 Share Posted June 6, 2015 What a waste of space...What was there before? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrLan34 Posted June 6, 2015 Author Share Posted June 6, 2015 (edited) What was there before? Cash check spot (demolished in photo below) and a shed that people would sell items out of during the day (remaining structure in photo below) Photo by Marc Longoria in Dolce Living Thread Storage near Dolce Living by marclongoria, on Flickr Edited June 6, 2015 by DrLan34 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrLan34 Posted June 6, 2015 Author Share Posted June 6, 2015 (edited) Crane going up today, I heard 6 stories. Edited June 6, 2015 by DrLan34 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoustonIsHome Posted June 7, 2015 Share Posted June 7, 2015 What a waste of space...Spent some time around downtown yesterday, and that's all there is. Space. Literally hundreds, maybe thousands of blocks of empty lots, wooded lots, lots with abandoned or decrepit homes or warehouses. I don't know why we lament over a particular lot outside of downtown or midtown, the surrounding areas are pretty much untapped potential. I dunno why we are hooked on creating city center type islands of wow on large lots such as Hardy, Post Office or KBR sites. I do understand the need for space for large projects in Downtown like a huge aquarium or something. But outside of downtown all there is is space. When developers need to they buy multiple blocks downtown and close down a street or two. I would imagine it would be less difficult outside downtown. What we need to do is make it more attractive to want to build there. I know that landowners often seat on land for decades waiting for that golden offer, but come on, all there is is space. if the demand was there the land would be bought and developed. Sorry for the rant, i just lament at the fact that there is so much empty lots or crumbling houses walking distance from one of the biggest job centers in the country. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigFootsSocks Posted June 7, 2015 Share Posted June 7, 2015 I wouldn't say thousands... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdbaker Posted June 7, 2015 Share Posted June 7, 2015 Interim use. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoustonIsHome Posted June 7, 2015 Share Posted June 7, 2015 I wouldn't say thousands...Well I did say maybe thousands. But you are right 1000s maybe exaggerating. Midtown for example at its wide point is 23 blocks and at its longest is 24. That would be about 550 blocks. Most lots in Midtown are put to constructive use.3rd ward though is about 50 blocks by 30 blocks. That is 1500 blocks. The universities take up about a 10th of that area. The rest is pretty rough apart from about a 5% gentrified areas.East downtow & east end is about the same size as 3rd ward. But more industrial looking. Hard to tell how much is going on there.That area north of Houston between 45 and wayside is an area 50 blocks long by 90 blocks wide. That is about 4500 block many of which are blighted. The question is, how many of those 8000ish blocks that make up midtown, the 3rd, 5th wards and east side are ripe for development. Note: I was just counting streets. All four areas have super blocks which would result in a far lower count if counted as one block. The UH area for example would account for more than 100 blocks. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigFootsSocks Posted June 7, 2015 Share Posted June 7, 2015 Oh you meant downtown including midtown east downtown third ward etc, not just downtown, like ur OG post said.That makes more sense 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoustonIsHome Posted June 7, 2015 Share Posted June 7, 2015 Yes. I'm sorry when I said around downtown I literally meant the neighborhoods around downtown. I should have said surrounding.Point was we are lamenting over one not so great block when we have 8000 others. Just fantasy here, but can you imagine just half of those blocks with an average sized residential building on it? Say a low rise building LIke block 334? I think that building has about 200 units. At 1.5 people per unit, a quarter of those blocks would house 600 000 people at full capacity. Can you imagine how cheap cost of living would be? Midtown, 3rd ward, East End AND The north are all served by rail. All these units would result in lower rents and public transit is much cheaper than driving and parking costs.Can you imagine the demand for retail such a huge increase in population would create? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigFootsSocks Posted June 7, 2015 Share Posted June 7, 2015 I'm sure rates would fluctuate than from what they are now though. As more ppl move here I can only see these rates going up, and thus the buildings going further up to accommodate. Low-rises lining those empty lots, you say? No, you're not thinking high enough 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 Yes. I'm sorry when I said around downtown I literally meant the neighborhoods around downtown. I should have said surrounding.Point was we are lamenting over one not so great block when we have 8000 others.Just fantasy here, but can you imagine just half of those blocks with an average sized residential building on it? Say a low rise building LIke block 334? I think that building has about 200 units. At 1.5 people per unit, a quarter of those blocks would house 600 000 people at full capacity.Can you imagine how cheap cost of living would be? Midtown, 3rd ward, East End AND The north are all served by rail. All these units would result in lower rents and public transit is much cheaper than driving and parking costs.Can you imagine the demand for retail such a huge increase in population would create? Can you imagine what a horrifically bad place to live that would be? Why would I want another 600,000 people inside the Loop? If I want that sort of density, I'll move somewhere else if that happens, because it would not be Houston any longer, it would be some awful place that I don't want to be. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoustonIsHome Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 600 0000 isn't that high density. The loop had what now 400 000 people. That would bring it to 1M in 90 sq mile. That's a density of 11 000 people per sq mile. That's less than Miami. For perspective, Manhattan had 1.6 million people in just over 20 square miles and a density of over 70 000 people per square mile. San Francisco has 850 000 people in 45 sq miles. The inner loop is still rather empty. Bringing the bulk of a cities population to the core does a world of good. It's easier to manage a city in 90 sq miles than in 400. Can you image the reduction in costs the city would incur by reducing the number of streets than needs to be surfaced, reduced cost of miles of public transportation. Reduced everything 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 600 0000 isn't that high density.The loop had what now 400 000 people. That would bring it to 1M in 90 sq mile. That's a density of 11 000 people per sq mile. That's less than Miami.For perspective, Manhattan had 1.6 million people in just over 20 square miles and a density of over 70 000 people per square mile. San Francisco has 850 000 people in 45 sq miles. The inner loop is still rather empty. Bringing the bulk of a cities population to the core does a world of good. It's easier to manage a city in 90 sq miles than in 400. Can you image the reduction in costs the city would incur by reducing the number of streets than needs to be surfaced, reduced cost of miles of public transportation. Reduced everythingSo what, you really think you can force everyone to move into a compressed area inside the Loop? And what is the basis for thinking that City costs go down with density? We may see a million people inside the Loop some day, but I suspect I will be long dead before that happens. There's no drivers to force that to happen quickly. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoustonIsHome Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 Who said anything about forcing anyone anywhere? And it doesn't take much of a mental exercise to figure that a city of 1 million residents living in 100 square miles would pay less in road costs, transportation, schools and other public services than the same people living in 400 square miles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LS27 Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 Sheeesh! This pro-guard self storage conversation turned into a full blown novel. I just hope it has GFR. Who say's mixed use exclusively means apartments over retail? Maybe they can throw in a donut shop and other goodies at the ground level and have the upper levels be storage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cspwal Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 I do remember seeing a storage place that had some stores on the ground floor - a Fedex or UPS store and a Dr's office 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montrose1100 Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 I do remember seeing a storage place that had some stores on the ground floor - a Fedex or UPS store and a Dr's officeThe Community Self Storage on Washington has GFR. The one on Voss does too. They make sense, and they're useful. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloud713 Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 That's actually a pretty solid idea of they were to put in GFR. I could see the need for storage in such a high rental market like Midtown. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrLan34 Posted June 9, 2015 Author Share Posted June 9, 2015 Caught some of the guys finishing up on the crane. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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DrLan34 Posted September 28, 2015 Author Share Posted September 28, 2015 (edited) - Edited July 25, 2016 by DrLan34 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urbannizer Posted September 28, 2015 Share Posted September 28, 2015 Rendering: 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urbannizer Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 IMG_7868 by Andrew Rebman, on Flickr 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hindesky Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 Looks topped out. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrLan34 Posted December 6, 2015 Author Share Posted December 6, 2015 (edited) Crane came down Saturday. Edited August 10, 2016 by DrLan34 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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cspwal Posted December 24, 2015 Share Posted December 24, 2015 It looks like a mid rise shipping container 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackie21love Posted December 24, 2015 Share Posted December 24, 2015 Why we are so excited about a self storage building? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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