phillip_white Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 6 hours ago, Tumbleweed_Tx said: i met one of the dumbest people I have ever met tonight. She owns a bar across the street from this property,. She bitched about everything having to do with the old KBR site. I was like, you don't realize the gold mine you're sitting on. I'll buy your bar when your ignorance takes over... lol My guess is that the bar does not own the land and the landlord may be looking to raise the rent to cover the jump in property value. She will be in quite a rough spot trying to cover increased expenses while waiting for the customers to show up across the street. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Clean19 Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 8 hours ago, Tumbleweed_Tx said: i met one of the dumbest people I have ever met tonight. She owns a bar across the street from this property,. She bitched about everything having to do with the old KBR site. I was like, you don't realize the gold mine you're sitting on. I'll buy your bar when your ignorance takes over... lol The Bar across the street (The New Potato) loves this lot and maintains a very good relationship with Midway. The owner is a guy named Paul and they built the bar with the plan to establish an early footprint in this area. Best hidden bar in town! 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angostura Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 Info on the variance request, including street cross-sections and a site land-use layout, are in this week's planning commission agenda. (Item 99, pg 125) The ask is pretty modest: 50-ft RoWs on some of the internal streets. Layouts would be 70-ft between facades, 36-38 ft between curbs. It's only a 10-ft reduction in Ch 42's RoW requirements, and 50-ft RoWs are already permitted for SF-only streets. The site layout shows 6 streets taking access from Clinton (for the most part aligned with the existing street grid north of Clinton), and one each taking access from Jensen and Hirsch. There are six easements ranging from 15-ft to 40-ft in width, between the internal streets and the bayou for Hike & Bike trail access. Most of the Clinton Dr frontage appears to be dedicated to townhouses. The site also includes 8 multifamily sites, 10 office sites, a dozen or so retail sites, a theater, a hotel and a museum. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lockmat Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 35 minutes ago, Angostura said: The ask Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUTEX Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 How does one log into the planning agenda website? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post lockmat Posted June 4, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted June 4, 2018 (edited) 41 minutes ago, HOUTEX said: How does one log into the planning agenda website? https://edrc.houstontx.gov/edrc/login.aspx Click on Current Agenda Street names: Zydeco Drive Port View Ave George Brown St. Herman Brown St. Third Coast Ave. S. Battery St. N. Battery St. Dan Root Blvd Barbara Jordan Ave Bringhurst St. Kermac Blvd. Bayou City Dr. Hike and Bike trail runs along Hirsch If section labels are an indication of phases, they run from west to east. Under the current Chapter 42 standards, we could hypothetically provide only one north/south public street throughout the entire development and no east/west streets (what?! Ridonculous!). Alternatively, we have decided to incorporate several public streets, many aligning with connections to the north of the site, to create smaller and more walkable blocks. This site will be able to be accessed easily both by future residents of the development and surrounding neighborhoods. It will also activate the bayou frontage. There will be several connections to the bayou waterfront for pedestrians and the developer is granting an easement to the Buffalo Bayou Partnership to continue the trail system everyone is so fond of on the west side of downtown. Pedestrian bridges are being discussed with Buffalo Bayou Partnership to connect the two sides of the bayou. The site layout for this development was designed with complete streets in mind. Pedestrians and bikes have received just as much attention as automobiles. There will be dedicated on-street bike lanes along Bayou City Drive, Gregg Street (in accordance with Houston Bike Plan), and Barbara Jordan Avenue. The rest of the development will have shared bike lanes, but the low speeds and traffic calming design measures undertaken will make it a safe development for all modes of transportation. The developer is committed to promoting a live/work lifestyle with East River. There will be several parks throughout the development totaling approximately 19 acres. Some will be located adjacent to the trail being dedicated to the Buffalo Bayou Partnership and the rest will be mixed in with the myriad land-uses. Edited June 4, 2018 by lockmat 9 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tumbleweed_Tx Posted June 5, 2018 Share Posted June 5, 2018 12 hours ago, Mr.Clean19 said: The Bar across the street (The New Potato) loves this lot and maintains a very good relationship with Midway. The owner is a guy named Paul and they built the bar with the plan to establish an early footprint in this area. Best hidden bar in town! When people are drunk you get the truth out of them. She was drunk last night. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Clean19 Posted June 5, 2018 Share Posted June 5, 2018 10 hours ago, Tumbleweed_Tx said: When people are drunk you get the truth out of them. She was drunk last night. Quit taking advantage of drunks Tumbleweed! lol Its interesting too see the land that Midways owns and how that will be developed vs the land that Cathexsis owns and how that is developing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angostura Posted June 5, 2018 Share Posted June 5, 2018 17 hours ago, lockmat said: Under the current Chapter 42 standards, we could hypothetically provide only one north/south public street throughout the entire development and no east/west streets (what?! Ridonculous!). Ridiculous, but not entirely incorrect. Clinton Dr is a major thoroughfare. Chapter 42 allows for intersection spacing of up to 2600-ft along major thoroughfares, and the Clinton Dr frontage is around 5000 ft. However, there are already two public N-S streets on the property, so to provide only one would require the city abandoning the other one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texasota Posted June 5, 2018 Share Posted June 5, 2018 Right, but it's ridiculous that Chapter 42 allows that. It should instead require more reasonable block lengths so that developers would have to apply for a variance for more than, oh, let's say 1400' b/w streets (that Planning Commission would of course immediately rubber stamp, but still!, it's the principle!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angostura Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 14 hours ago, Texasota said: Right, but it's ridiculous that Chapter 42 allows that. It should instead require more reasonable block lengths so that developers would have to apply for a variance for more than, oh, let's say 1400' b/w streets (that Planning Commission would of course immediately rubber stamp, but still!, it's the principle!) How about 300-ft? The only parts of the city with compact grid layouts and reasonable-sized blocks are the areas platted pre Ch 42. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texasota Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 I would probably argue for somewhere around 600' as a maximum - depending on how it's measured 300' might actually be a bit smaller than a standard downtown block. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angostura Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 22 hours ago, Texasota said: I would probably argue for somewhere around 600' as a maximum - depending on how it's measured 300' might actually be a bit smaller than a standard downtown block. Downtown/EaDo are 330-ft from center of ROW to center of ROW; 250-ft plus 80-ft of ROW. (43% city-owned land area) I think 4th ward is the tightest: 200 x 250, plus 30-ft RoWs. (22% city-owned land area) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Clean19 Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 Midway meeting with locals in 5th ward to discuss the East River property this past week at The New Potato. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobruss Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 I'm totally lost on the ROW's and bw's and everything you are talking about in the last six or seven posts. Is there some where I can go to educate myself about these standard ROW's and the other jargon your speaking. Sorry I'm sure for real estate and planning people this is very simple but it could be greek for all I don't know. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I'm Not a Robot Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 (edited) On 6/9/2018 at 8:47 AM, Mr.Clean19 said: Midway meeting with locals in 5th ward to discuss the East River property this past week at The New Potato. Were there any updates on whether there is a timeline for breaking ground? Also was their a change to their plans.. because the most recent mock up displayed the west side of the property as labeled section I and as far as I knew they were building east to west. The spot marked for theatre in the far west is ripe for the first Alamo Draft House inside the loop and would be a total game changer if that were the case. My biggest hopes for the property are a movie theater, a grocery store and possibly a gym. Edited June 10, 2018 by I'm Not a Robot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Clean19 Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 Must be present to win! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naviguessor Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 Naviguessor was at the meeting and in the photo above, enjoying his 2nd Lone Star. The biggest takeaways that were shared are that the property will now be developed West to East, which is a change to the plan. Construction is expected to start within 24 months. Of course, Midway will not divulge any parties that they are in negotiations with, including retail, entertainment or "museum" concepts. The "candyland" map that Midway submitted to the CoH is still strictly conceptual, for the planning board to use in their consideration for the Street proposal. The actual plan will be driven by market forces but is still expected to be a very rich mix uses and densities. Bayou access is and will continue to be a priority and are very engaged with BBP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mollusk Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 It's reassuring to know that Navi has his priorities in good order... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triton Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 1 hour ago, Naviguessor said: Naviguessor was at the meeting and in the photo above, enjoying his 2nd Lone Star. The biggest takeaways that were shared are that the property will now be developed West to East, which is a change to the plan. Construction is expected to start within 24 months. Of course, Midway will not divulge any parties that they are in negotiations with, including retail, entertainment or "museum" concepts. The "candyland" map that Midway submitted to the CoH is still strictly conceptual, for the planning board to use in their consideration for the Street proposal. The actual plan will be driven by market forces but is still expected to be a very rich mix uses and densities. Bayou access is and will continue to be a priority and are very engaged with BBP. That's a little bizarre to start West to East. So a vacant building will sit on the East side for a while then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naviguessor Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 I think that the West to East Makes sense, since that end is how the majority of the traffic approaches the property. Midway, did indicate that the Large building on the site (with HTX or AMAZN in lights) will be preserved in hopes of landing a major tenant. If this were to happen, I am sure that they will develop the land differently. The other buildings on the property will likely all be removed. But, for now, the parcel between Jensen and Meadow, is expected to be the first to see any real action. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Clean19 Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 New brochure that shows cool looking model shot of the bayou and buildings http://eastriverhtx.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/180709-EastRiver_brochure_FINAL2.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cspwal Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 The proposed streetcar they mention...proposed by who? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Clean19 Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 East End Management District has a proposed street car connecting this neighborhood with Eado and Navigation. Would be a huge game changer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thatguysly Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 That is one heck of a vision Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cspwal Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 19 minutes ago, Mr.Clean19 said: East End Management District has a proposed street car connecting this neighborhood with Eado and Navigation. Would be a huge game changer. It would tie that whole east side of downtown in the way the red line ties midtown and downtown together Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Clean19 Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 That idea has been around for a while. The new thing on this brochure is the visuals that they have provided on what the buildings will look like on the site. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naviguessor Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 Looking Fantastic. Thanks, Mr Clean. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kbates2 Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 Bayou Lofts looks different Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
intencity77 Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 If realized, this would be a game changer for the EaDo, East End and Fifth Ward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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