Walmart Supercenter At 111 Yale St.

[SilverJK]

I guess it is because i was raised in rural ultra conservative north louisiana that even though I'm now a liberal hipster... I still don't want to push my agenda down anyone's throat (except the petition to allow 4 hens on city lots). I remember when my small town finally got a walmart when i was growing up, it was awesome. If you needed something, you could just go to walmart (alot of times back then it was actually hard to find products if you didn't have a walmart). The anti walmart crowd just reminds me of the neo con christians from my college town that used city laws to shut down the porn shop that was outside of the city limits. Everyone knew it was wrong and wasn't legal, but nobody really made a fuss about it because it was stopping the porn shop (insert walmart to this and its the same story).

Edited April 11, 2012 by SilverJK

[samagon]

What's really ironic is that most of the items on the 380, that are opposed by the anti walmart crowd were things the city pushed walmart to do to appease complaints by the anti walmart crowd, the 380 was the only mechanism they had to achieve that goal.

crazy and funny to watch.

[gazhomme]

What's a $3000 dog look like anyway? Where I'm from, a $3000 dog looks like this...

That pretty much sums it up for me. You could also say that it looks like a future rescue dog.

[s3mh]

What's really ironic is that most of the items on the 380, that are opposed by the anti walmart crowd were things the city pushed walmart to do to appease complaints by the anti walmart crowd, the 380 was the only mechanism they had to achieve that goal.

crazy and funny to watch.

Walmart has no obligation under the 380. Ainbinder is on the contract, not Walmart. Of course, Walmart does get the benefit without any of the commitment of the 380 agreement. Also, the 380 agreement existed long before the anti-Walmart movement started and was never intended by anyone as a response to opponents.

What is really ironic is how people on this message board attributed every anti-Walmart argument to a pretext for snobbery and prejudice against low income earners who shop at Walmart. Yet, it appears that this argument was really just a pretext for class resentment of those in the Heights who have acheived a better standard of living. And the true irony is that the actual opponents range the gamut from apartment dwellers to homeowners, from conservatives to liberals, from engineers to attorneys to retirees to stay at home mothers to artists to accountants to small business owners, from pro historic ordinance to anti-historic ordinace. The only thing that is "typical" about opponents is that there is nothing typical about them. There was truly a broad and diverse opposition to this development. You can make up your own narrative about what an opponent might be like, but it will be nothing more than your own speculation.

[gazhomme]

In this "bed-in" against Wal-mart you can divide the strange bedfellows into two classes.

1. Useful idiots

2. Friends of convenience

The useful idiot really has nothing at stake and their primary motivation is to protest something to the point (hopefully) of capitulation. Protesting is their hobby and primary form of social networking.

Friends of convenience do have skin in the game, come from opposite viewpoints, and are willing to violate certain personal views or realities based on the fact that the invader is a bit too close to their "backyard". In the case of a conservative it could be "I believe in property rights until Walmart opens up near my Victorian on Yale". For liberals it could be "I support the working man until the place he works at opens up down the street from my Yard of the Month Victorian on Yale".

The rest of us just want cheap bulk dog food.

[gazhomme]

I guess it is because i was raised in rural ultra conservative north louisiana that even though I'm now a liberal hipster... I still don't want to push my agenda down anyone's throat (except the petition to allow 4 hens on city lots).

I'm considering getting PETA involved so that we can effectively cock-block your petition. What is driving this need for eggs in the Heights? How many beta-males does it take to make a quiche?

[RedScare]

In this "bed-in" against Wal-mart you can divide the strange bedfellows into two classes.

1. Useful idiots

2. Friends of convenience

The useful idiot really has nothing at stake and their primary motivation is to protest something to the point (hopefully) of capitulation. Protesting is their hobby and primary form of social networking.

Friends of convenience do have skin in the game, come from opposite viewpoints, and are willing to violate certain personal views or realities based on the fact that the invader is a bit too close to their "backyard". In the case of a conservative it could be "I believe in property rights until Walmart opens up near my Victorian on Yale". For liberals it could be "I support the working man until the place he works at opens up down the street from my Yard of the Month Victorian on Yale".

The rest of us just want cheap bulk dog food.

I considered ripping s3mh's response until I realized that this post pretty much covered everything I was going to say. Sort of like earning hipster street cred by opposing Walmart.

And, two thumbs up on the cheap bulk dog food.

[samagon]

Walmart has no obligation under the 380. Ainbinder is on the contract, not Walmart. Of course, Walmart does get the benefit without any of the commitment of the 380 agreement. Also, the 380 agreement existed long before the anti-Walmart movement started and was never intended by anyone as a response to opponents.

What is really ironic is how people on this message board attributed every anti-Walmart argument to a pretext for snobbery and prejudice against low income earners who shop at Walmart. Yet, it appears that this argument was really just a pretext for class resentment of those in the Heights who have acheived a better standard of living. And the true irony is that the actual opponents range the gamut from apartment dwellers to homeowners, from conservatives to liberals, from engineers to attorneys to retirees to stay at home mothers to artists to accountants to small business owners, from pro historic ordinance to anti-historic ordinace. The only thing that is "typical" about opponents is that there is nothing typical about them. There was truly a broad and diverse opposition to this development. You can make up your own narrative about what an opponent might be like, but it will be nothing more than your own speculation.

The only actual truth of your post is that the 380 is indeed with Ainbinder.

Everything else is either an outright lie, stretch of the truth or your opinion.

[J008]

certainly a stretch to believe

http://blog.chron.com/hottopics/2012/04/walmart-big-box-stores-linked-with-hate-groups-in-study/

[RedScare]

Now there's a study the Stop the Heights Walmart folks can really get behind!

[callisthenes]

certainly a stretch to believe

http://blog.chron.co...roups-in-study/

From the article:

<The number of big-box retailers in a community can have social and economic effects that lead to the formation of hate groups, a recent study found…

“We’re not trying to pick on Wal-Mart,” said Goetz. “In this study, Wal-Mart is really serving as a proxy for any type of large retailer.”>

Walmart hate-groups only appeared in the Heights after the Target opened. Hypothesis confirmed!

[RedScare]

...said Stephan Goetz, Penn State professor and the study’s lead author.

I think his next study should focus on the correlation between winning college football programs and pedophilia rates.

[SilverJK]

I'm considering getting PETA involved so that we can effectively cock-block your petition. What is driving this need for eggs in the Heights? How many beta-males does it take to make a quiche?

People Eating Tasty Animals???

cock block all you want, I just want hens.

There is absolutely nothing driving this need other than the desire to be a cool hipster with my own chickens that fertilize my grass and give me "organic yard eggs". (I recognize that I have to put money in the d-bag jar for that) That mixed with the nostalgia of the chickens from my family's farm growing up...

[gazhomme]

cock block all you want, I just want hens.

There is absolutely nothing driving this need other than the desire to be a cool hipster with my own chickens that fertilize my grass and give me "organic yard eggs". (I recognize that I have to put money in the d-bag jar for that) That mixed with the nostalgia of the chickens from my family's farm growing up...

Please...

Every hipster knows that chicken eggs are soooo 2007! I mean, they're probably doing that in Midtown by now! Every blue blooded Heights resident knows that you should be fighting city hall for the right to raise ducks. Have you not seen the price of organic duck eggs at Central Market? You must not be in the right book of the month discussion group. I suggest you tender your resignation and search for one that's slightly ahead of the curve.

Next thing you'll say is that you want to raise pigmy goats...sheesh. (hint, goats out, micro donkeys in)

[samagon]

can the RUDH be considered a hate group?

[RedScare]

can the RUDH be considered a hate group?

Only if they put a bounty on the heads of hispanic jewish murder suspects.

Edited April 12, 2012 by RedScare

[gazhomme]

Only if they put a bounty on the heads of hispanic jewish murder suspects.

My guess is that the victim purchased his drink and Skittles at a mom and pop not a big box.

[samagon]

Please...

Every hipster knows that chicken eggs are soooo 2007! I mean, they're probably doing that in Midtown by now! Every blue blooded Heights resident knows that you should be fighting city hall for the right to raise ducks. Have you not seen the price of organic duck eggs at Central Market? You must not be in the right book of the month discussion group. I suggest you tender your resignation and search for one that's slightly ahead of the curve.

Next thing you'll say is that you want to raise pigmy goats...sheesh. (hint, goats out, micro donkeys in)

The one that's really going to throw the Midtown residents for a loop (since most of them just got their longboards) is that longboards are out, and horses are in.

Edited April 12, 2012 by samagon

[gazhomme]

The one that's really going to throw the Midtown residents for a loop (since most of them just got their longboards) is that longboards are out, and horses are in.

Great. I can see a Midtown dead horse epidemic in the making when they discover that you actually have to maintain something other than your lifestyle and wardrobe. Of course we wise owls in the Heights will start the Heights Horse Rescue squad (funded by generous donations from our neighborhood Walmart) and relocate these noble beasts to the wooded areas of the Heights. (Not to be confused with the Woodland Heights, 'cause that's not really the Heights per the argyle sweater set) Once they're nursed back to health we can ride them on the rails2trails paths until the inevitable factions emerge pitting bikers, hikers, and horseback riders against one another.

All of this because Walmart drove the area to hate and skinheads started raising chickens for their White's Only omelets.

Edited April 13, 2012 by gazhomme

[RedScare]

Target started it.

[Marksmu]

Please...

Every hipster knows that chicken eggs are soooo 2007! I mean, they're probably doing that in Midtown by now! Every blue blooded Heights resident knows that you should be fighting city hall for the right to raise ducks. Have you not seen the price of organic duck eggs at Central Market? You must not be in the right book of the month discussion group. I suggest you tender your resignation and search for one that's slightly ahead of the curve.

Next thing you'll say is that you want to raise pigmy goats...sheesh. (hint, goats out, micro donkeys in)

While I recognize the sarcasm - apparently there is nothing preventing people from having Geese....there is a house at nicholson and 12th - that keeps two geese....they are extremely loud and honk at every single person that passes by on the sidewalk, and about half the people that pass by on the hike and bike trail. If I were that houses neighbors, I would go crazy - those birds are LOUD.

[J008]

While I recognize the sarcasm - apparently there is nothing preventing people from having Geese....there is a house at nicholson and 12th - that keeps two geese....they are extremely loud and honk at every single person that passes by on the sidewalk, and about half the people that pass by on the hike and bike trail. If I were that houses neighbors, I would go crazy - those birds are LOUD.

Sounds like freedom to me.

[SilverJK]

Please...

Every hipster knows that chicken eggs are soooo 2007! I mean, they're probably doing that in Midtown by now! Every blue blooded Heights resident knows that you should be fighting city hall for the right to raise ducks. Have you not seen the price of organic duck eggs at Central Market? You must not be in the right book of the month discussion group. I suggest you tender your resignation and search for one that's slightly ahead of the curve.

Next thing you'll say is that you want to raise pigmy goats...sheesh. (hint, goats out, micro donkeys in)

Actually I'm going to raise this new animal... you've probably never heard of it.

When did longboards become hip? I have heard that every hipster will probably have a penny board by the end of the summer, but that isn't really the same thing. I guess once walmart gets here everyone will be able to afford longboards though, even the poor kids will have some cheap pintail board they can cruise up and down their street on while wearing Faded Glory sandals. That'll stop the hipsters on their penny boards in birkenstocks real quick.

[fwki]

Just so we don't get off topic, geese are to ducks and chickens as Walmart is to Mom and Pops.

[gazhomme]

Target started it.

So Target should be the target because they started it, but instead they target Wal-Mart instead of targeting Target as Target has correctly targeted their target hipster demographic with targeted messaging that deflects them as a target of criticism due to their sleek product design aesthetics.

[gazhomme]

there is a house at nicholson and 12th - that keeps two geese....they are extremely loud and honk at every single person that passes by on the sidewalk,

Crazy-@ss honkeys in the Heights!

[samagon]

Sounds like freedom to me.

Ugh, their smell is not one of freedom.

[Marksmu]

Ugh, their smell is not one of freedom.

No - not it is not.

[mkultra25]

I think his next study should focus on the correlation between winning college football programs and pedophilia rates.

[musicman]

And as for home fashion or work clothes, I'm not going to shop at a big box discounter, no matter how many thin, sexy 17-year-olds they have sporting their wares to energetic pop music. All that gimmickry is just lipstick on a pig. Some people respond to it; that's their problem, not mine.

Niche you and fashion aren't something imaginable to me!