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President Kennedy In Houston Nov. 21, 1963


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I'd sure like to know if anyone can validate that John F. Kennedy spoke at NASA the day before he was assasinated in Dallas? So, did he lecture/speak at NASA Nov 20, 1963?

Thanks.

He did not speak at NASA that day. He went straight to the Rice; rushed past me without a glance while LBJ worked the line and patted me on the head; Went upstairs; took a nap; ate some quail; went to the Colusiem for a chicken dinner tribute organized by Albert Thomas for Albert Thomas; left and went to Hobby; flew to Fort Worth; woke up; ate breakfast; gave a parking lot speech; flew to Love and had his brains blown out into his wife's lap by a guy who was a really good shot who knew how to take three shots in a little over 4 1/2 seconds-if you started your stop-watch with the first. I'm a lousy shot but I could take down Bambi's mom with the same 3.

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There was a great special last night on PBS titled "Oswald's Ghost" .

They will never know the real culprit behind this event.

If only you could have heard some of the outlandish ideas that came to mind of whom to blame.

I always thought there were more than just 300-400 people in Dealy Plaza that fateful day. :(

American Experience is the best:

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/amex/oswald/

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I watched Oswald's Ghost, it was pretty good. PBS did an even better documentary about Oswald called, "Who Was Lee Harvey Oswald?" It was very spooky and it revisited many of the old places where LHO lived in the past, particularly his old New Orleans haunts. Damn good.

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I watched Oswald's Ghost, it was pretty good. PBS did an even better documentary about Oswald called, "Who Was Lee Harvey Oswald?" It was very spooky and it revisited many of the old places where LHO lived in the past, particularly his old New Orleans haunts. Damn good.

Kind of saddens me to see that there are so many websites that highlight the actual shooting. I still can't watch it. Just growing up hearing about it was too much. I cant imagine what it was like for thsoe that were present. -_-

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Jack Ruby's gun up for auction

LAS VEGAS, March 11 (UPI) -- The gun Jack Ruby used to kill presidential assassin Lee Harvey Oswald is up for auction in Las Vegas, with a starting bid of $1 million, a report said.

The .38-caliber Colt Cobra, which has been in private hands since 1967, will be auctioned at the Palms casino in Las Vegas, the Las Vegas Sun reported Tuesday.

The newspaper reported that artifacts relating to the 1963 assassination of U.S. President John F. Kennedy in Dallas and the subsequent slaying of Oswald wound up in private hands, with the exception of the rifle Oswald used to shoot the president.

The rife ended up in the National Archives in College Park, Md., along with other evidence from the Kennedy assassination.

Gary Mack, curator of the Sixth Floor Museum at Dealey Plaza in Dallas, told the newspaper he hopes the gun will return to Texas.

"It would be really nice if someone would buy it and donate it to us for the tax write-off," he said.

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What's ridiculous is that it didn't sell at $900K - the reserve was $1 million, and the owner declined to sell it when it didn't meet reserve. He should've taken the $900K and laughed all the way to the bank, as I seriously doubt he'll get anything close to that kind of offer again.

I read that the casket they got for JFK costs $3950, quite a bit of money back in 1963 for a box to be buried in. I'm so glad that I've donated my body to science when I kick the bucket.

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What's ridiculous is that it didn't sell at $900K - the reserve was $1 million, and the owner declined to sell it when it didn't meet reserve. He should've taken the $900K and laughed all the way to the bank, as I seriously doubt he'll get anything close to that kind of offer again.

I read that the casket that was obtained in Dallas for JFK cost $3950. That was a good chunk of change back in 1963 for a box to be buried in. I'm glad I've donated my body to medical research.

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For Vertigo58

 

At the time it was just the Rice Hotel. The name Rittenhouse was added in the 70s. That name went away when the hotel closed in 1977.

 

My father and I were at that historic meeting of Houston ministers to see JFK defend his beliefs and, if elected, promise they would never affect his decisions as President. It didn't seem "historic" at the time, but it was. That didn't become apparent until much later.

 

The event was held for the benefit of ministers, and the room was filled with them, but the general public was also allowed in, so Dad and I got there early and got good seats up close.

 

I have an American Political History book that has a photo of JFK taken that night. The photog was standing off on the side of the rostrum looking over JFK's shoulder out at the audience, and my dad and I are clearly visible several rows out. I was 17 and had just started my senior year at Pasadena HS.  

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On the front page of todays Chronicle.

http://www.houstonchronicle.com/

The article talks about Houston Hispanics, which reminded me that Avondale has a small link to those events. The building ( a converted house on triangle of land bordered by Bagby, Baldwin and Anita) where the newly formed LULAC members brainstormed. The house is very very deteriorated. The fate of the house is unknown--even the ownership is murky. The house is outside the Avondale East Historic district protection which ends at Baldwin street. The plaque outside commemorates the organization rather than the building. I spoke with a new member who told me the remaining group that is interested in this building are divided---some would like to restore it the others to raze it and rebuild a new building that could be used by community.

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On the front page of todays Chronicle.

http://www.houstonchronicle.com/

The article talks about Houston Hispanics, which reminded me that Avondale has a small link to those events. The building ( a converted house on triangle of land bordered by Bagby, Baldwin and Anita) where the newly formed LULAC members brainstormed. The house is very very deteriorated. The fate of the house is unknown--even the ownership is murky. The house is outside the Avondale East Historic district protection which ends at Baldwin street. The plaque outside commemorates the organization rather than the building. I spoke with a new member who told me the remaining group that is interested in this building are divided---some would like to restore it the others to raze it and rebuild a new building that could be used by community.

found the pictures of the house.

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I found this photo taken on November 21, 1963. The Lincolns (I also think I see some Mercurys) in the foreground were used in President Kennedy's motorcade when he came to Houston that day. I've been looking at that photo to determine where it was taken. It looks like it's in front of a Lincoln/Mercury dealership, it might be Shepherd or Durham since it's a wide, one way throughofare, but it curves a bit in the background sort of like coming off the terminus of a freeway, or it could be somewhere downtown before the modern skyscrapers were built. I see a church in the background, it looks very familiar, but I know of a few churches in the area with similar architecture. Any of our resident historians want to take a guess as to where this photo was taken?

http://www.cah.utexas.edu/db/dmr/image_lg....iable=e_bb_2644

 

Six years later, and fifty years to the day that the pic was taken, I've figured out that this pic was taken at the corner of Clay and Smith. That church in the background is Antioch MBC.

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Wow.. I walk through that parking lot (now a park) everyday. Thanks for sharing.

 

You're welcome. Here's a current day shot of that location. https://maps.google.com/?ll=29.755925,-95.370587&spn=0.00382,0.005284&t=h&z=18&layer=c&cbll=29.75586,-95.370475&panoid=GmCQWnsOJbuURnZEF4-bOw&cbp=12,285.74,,0,10.24

 

Looks like there's a garage there now. I wonder what dealer that was? I know there was a Lincoln/Mercury dealership downtown, but pics showed it to be near the Houston House.

 

For the car guys, those are seven 1964 Lincoln Continental convertibles and three 1964 Mercury convertibles lined up there. In the lot are some 63 or 64 Continentals and a 63 Mercury Meteor wagon.

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I didn't realize that, either... though the building on Main that was Battelstein's now comes right up to the back of 801 Travis (which in turn also sits on top of the footprint of where the Majestic was).  Then again, that skinny building fronting on Main always struck me as a tad small for a place as nice as Battelstein's was.

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He stayed the night at the Rice. They had a stiff back rocking chair installed for him in his suite for his back. The Rice Lofts has a plaque titled “The Kennedy Suite” where he stayed. If you go to liveattherice.com and click on history they talk all about it with pictures.

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1 hour ago, Michael12345 said:

He stayed the night at the Rice. They had a stiff back rocking chair installed for him in his suite for his back. The Rice Lofts has a plaque titled “The Kennedy Suite” where he stayed. If you go to liveattherice.com and click on history they talk all about it with pictures.

 

No, they did not stay the night at the Rice.  They were at the Rice briefly the day before, attendend a luncheon in the ballroom, and then flew to Fort Worth and spent the night in the Hotel Texas in Fort Worth.

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On 6/8/2020 at 3:30 PM, Houston19514 said:

 

No, they did not stay the night at the Rice.  They were at the Rice briefly the day before, attendend a luncheon in the ballroom, and then flew to Fort Worth and spent the night in the Hotel Texas in Fort Worth.

 

Correct, now the Fort Worth Hilton. Stayed there a couple of years ago.

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