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Sure, they could pick a place and then just hangout across the street from it and stare.........

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An old generator and a warehouse FULL of furniture in a struggling economy ? The Perfect Storm, maybe?

I am predicting a $100 price drop, as they have been gettin their arses handed to them by the competition.

You better buy up the horsepower while you can, Obama is gonna put the Kaibosh on the pony cars and SUVs. http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090519/ap_on_.../us_obama_autos

That's where we differ a little, I don't see all suicides as a social problem, they are mostly personal problems, that become social when they decide they need to do their deed with an audience present. Go get into a nice warm tub and slit your wrists, but do it right, do it length wise, not across. Go take some pills. Get some rope and go in your closet. Hook up a hose to your tailpipe of your SUV while in your garage with the door down and turn your SUV on. All sorts of ways to off yourself. Nobody wants to see you do it, or needs to see you do it.

Yes, yes, I believed that you were on the right track at first, because you agreed that "Selfish doesn't begin to describe the jumper". Then you turned on me. Look, I do have some sympathy, for the jumper, just a little. He obviously had problems, I just DO NOT BELIEVE, (that's just me stressing the point sunsets) that there is anything soooo terrible in life that you gotta end it all by doing a swan dive off the 10th floor. Oh, Niche, I don't think you are an idiot, that was just sorta an example, I mean it was JUST an example.

You just proved my point, I agree, it takes guts to go and face your life, whatever that may be, head on. Now, this is gonna piss you off, and I am not trying to, I promise. But, he slipped, he was weak, and then he was selfish. He left YOU angry, and you are still upset about it now, aren't you ? He didn't think about his wife, well, maybe I believe he did in his drunken state, but obviously that wasn't enough not to leave HER devasted, now was it ? Suicides like this either don't think or don't care about the consequences of their "finality", they just want out ! Sunsets, if I was at all angry, I WOULD BE TYPING LIKE THIS.............TELLING NICHE WHAT AN IDIOT HE IS AND blah blah blah . Niche is actually a friend to me though. We just happen to disagree on this, and this isn't the ONLY thing we have disagreed on. We generally agree on most subjects here. I just have "compassion" for ttu, whereas Niche and Emme harbor more feelings for the jumper in this case. For what reason, I can't fathom. Perhaps you can shed some light ? Sabre-toothed Tigers, eh? You're right, there are much much worse things out there now, aren't there ? I would take my chances against a Sabre-toothed rather than a couple of MS-13 gang members in broad daylight these days. To answer your question about broken bones, bones most assuredly will mend with proper treatment and care by first, a physician, and second, by YOURSELF. Not usually the case with psychotics. If I helped you with your broken ankle, you might thank me and go about your life, and we might never cross paths again. If I helped you with your deep psychosis, you might think that I also was out to get you, and that your dog told you to kill me and you may try to stab me with your fork, but you would fail, because of the cork I have placed on the end of your fork, as a precautionary measure, because it wasn't the first time you tried to stab somebody with your fork, so now we are gonna allow you to only eat things that you can sip through a straw. You see the difference there. Niche, did you ask your parents how many Schizos gained a full recovery from their diagnosis ? Any walking talking members of society here on the HAIF pages that have a clean bill of health , overcoming Schizophrenia?

Niche, I guess you didn't read my response to you in post #62. And SilverJK, I'm guessing, that you don't read much at all, if that statement qualifies as the most "ridiculous". Niche, how can you possibly think that those who commit suicide are braver than those who choose to move forward and face everyday troubles or worse, head on, instead of taking the easy way out and leaving others to clean up your messes ?

Please lady, don't even "pretend" to know anything about me. You haven't a clue as to who I am or what I've been through. Why don't you go make better use of your time, wasting it, "caring" for schizos and weak-minded folks with suicidal tendencies ? "Oh, the poor jumper", screw him, he made his choice. People who had to witness his selfish act didn't have a choice. That is who you should feel sorry for. But you haven't addressed the victims, so it is obvious, you don't care about them. When you start caring about the TRUE victims of his heinous act, then you can preach to me about "compassion".

Niche, we have already established that I don't care if someone offs themself, just as long as they aren't endangering the life of someone else in their process. I agree with you, basically 99 out of 100 Schizos wind up harming themselves before they would harm others, I see that as a good thing, they off themselves before they off an innocent party. That's the lesser of 2 evils, if you will. Again, it goes back to weak-minded individuals. I also said that it is a weak-minded person who commits such an act, I still stand behind that statement. I understand how some of you people see that as callous. I see it as only the strong can and will survive in this world. Since you like to read so much...... http://www.trutv.com/library/crime/serial_...k/insane_8.html BTW, your parents worked at a rehab center ? My Father was CFO/CEO of a fortune 500 company for 15 years, and my Mother was a Loan officer at a Wells Fargo for 10 years, that doesn't make me a financial expert, now does it.

And just what is my opinion of people with Alzheimer's ? Depression, does not a justification for suicide make. In my experience, people with Schizophrenia usually try going after OTHER people to kill, NOT trying to kill themselves.

In the future....... try reading the WHOLE thread , before you comment. I refer you to post #46 in this thread. But to answer your question, if one feels the desperate need to kill oneself, does one have to make a spectacle of oneself to do it ? (i.e: trying to land on someone's car during lunchrush from a 10 story drop downtown)

Emme, you have to look at everyday as a blessing, not as necessary. If you made it through the day, that is a GOOD day. I can see someone having a "bad day". But, do you truly believe that suicide is justified, barring a Kevorkian diagnosed, terminally ill, you ain't coming back from this one, so let me put you out of your misery, type assisted suicide ? Assisted for that, I agree with. Stepping off a 10 story building to do a belly-flop because I lost my job, my wife is cheating on me, and my dog just died, is NOT justified IMO. I call these types of suicides selfish because do you really think that the guy considered that he might fall on poor ttu's car, or quite possibly ON ttu. No, he was only thinking of himself..........selfish. I wish you compassion as well, compassion for victims like ttu as I do. The jumper is NOT a victim, he is a consequence of his own actions.

"Some days are good, the rest are necessary." Did you really just type that ? If that is your outlook on life, you may as well do yourself in NOW also. There is nothing, NOTHING, in this world that is soooo bad that you have to kill yourself over. But, there is a certain "thinning of the herd" that is required from time to time, so, perhaps the weak minded and heartless, need to succumb to their endeavors ? Wait, you're right, people who commit suicide aren't cowards, they are SELFISH cowards.

Don't think it is a consideration, it is all but done. Chi-com production costs are much much less money than UAW rules dictate. The factories are already built just need a little re-tooling which the Chinese Gov. will happily accomodate to take a Cornerstone of American business, AWAY from America. I guess GM plans to get out of the American market all together. They are shutting doors on 1100 dealers by 2010. The rest, I guess, will have to decide whether they will sell China's lead-based paint products or not. Consider, cheaper steel, doesn't necessarily mean less strength in it, but this IS China we are talking about. I personally think it is a Dick move by GM, and this is part of the reason I am selling my Oldsmobile. I am thinking about buying another defunct American car. Either an SRT8 Challenger or Charger. I think I could steal one at this point. Most likely go with a new Mustang GT, that I can trick out myself.

I'm not gonna feel sorry for a coward. Suicide = Coward.

Sorry that you had to witness that ttu. Not a good way to start your day, is it ?

Too bad it is on MLK. Other than that..............it's perfect.

Kick that Greed "BW"itch to the curb. Time for a new agent. In this market, you hold all the cards. Closing costs PLUS repairs PLUS $5k off the price, or tell the "realtor" to give you 2% back at closing off HER end, if she demands you make a full price bid. Since it seems that she thinks she is getting the full 6% commish ?!

Ya Mon, totally Irie !!!

Toolman, I recently got back into the home building and remodeling business. THIS is THE best product on the market, bar none. I would sell it to you myself, but my area does not cover Houston. It costs a little bit more, but it is worth it. I speak from experience, I have a carport built out of this myself. http://www.buildingproductsusa.com/patiocoverpics.shtml

Are you saying that YOU are gonna be the first Swine Flu death ? Anywho, the media here in Austin has already started changing the name of Swine Flu to the New H1N1 Virus, noticed it today while driving to an appointment. I have already told the head office that I won't take appointments in Cibolo or Shertz, or anywhere near San Antonio for the next week or two. Better to be safe than sorry.

What is it on your gas bill, that you would be afraid of ? There is no SSN, no DL, no credit info, nothing but your name and address, and a few numbers that no one at the school could make heads or tails of. No one at the school gives a rat's patootie how much your bill is, but take the suggestion of using a Sharpie Marker and blacken out the amount if it means that much to you. Your paranoia seems unfounded, quit holding up your kid's education and for Pete's sake, take off that tinfoil hat !

You truly believe that it matters, don't you? For that matter, why didn't you ask the same about Muslims ?