East River: KBR Site Puchased by Midway

[lockmat 2219]

https://youtu.be/ZN9L5Qv1OSs?t=6m25s

 

Thanks for sharing. Always to watch these BoyarMiller videos. Maybe you posted it in the citycentre thread but later he mentions their plans for that have stalled and will probably change.

[monarch 3400]

^^^ props for sharing mab...

[Mr.Clean19 433]

Anyone hear any rumors about top golf looking at this site?

[BigFootsSocks 3101]

Have you? Spill it man

[Naviguessor 2045]

Oh God, NO!

[Mr.Clean19 433]

Bear in mind that I'm also the same guy that heard HEB was looking at the kbr site too. For right now just file this one under unsubstantiated rumors. Just looking to see if anybody else had heard the same thing

[Naviguessor 2045]

OK.  I'll be calm.  Thanks for the reassurance.  Sort of. 

[swtsig 2839]

as of a year and half ago i could say with 100% certainty that the owner had absolutely no clue what to do with the site and floated around some pretty asinine ideas. HEB had been rumored back then as well.  when it was first purchased my money would've been on a significant project but it was pretty evident later on he had absolutely no idea what he was doing.

[cspwal 3437]

Hope Top Golf doesn't go there - it would be a better fit on top of GRB

[Mr.Clean19 433]

Thereare a few hints that im investigating about someone seeing the owner of top golf out on the site looking at the land. Looking and interest are two different things though. It would be perfect for the view but a whole lot would need to be built around it to make it possible

[HNathoo 973]

I heard one was coming to sugar land, but this is news to me. They did one an industrial area of Atlanta recently and have looked at some urban parts of Charlotte. I don't really know if the Houston market is large enough for 5 topgolf facilities.

[Urbannizer 42372]

http://www.chron.com/business/article/Houston-Maritime-Museum-plans-new-site-at-the-port-6865593.php

 

The Houston Maritime Museum has big plans for a new building at the Port of Houston. The museum is in the planning and fundraising process but hopes to break ground by the end of the year, moving from Houston's Museum District to port-side property. It will be situated next to the Sam Houston boat that offers public tours of the port, allowing visitors to get out on the water and learn about Houston's port and maritime history at the museum.

[Naviguessor 2045]

Maybe I'll dock my avatar there too. 

[bobruss 4922]

Its a shame they couldn't have repurposed the brand new, seldom used cruise terminal built on the water with docking facilities for cruise ships. They could use it for touring military fleet or special boat exhibits. The place is huge and it  was paid for through the port of Houston. I know its much more out of the way, but it is sitting vacant and I hate to see that money and building go to waste.

[j_cuevas713 2595]

It would be awesome if there were boats coming from Buffalo Bayou to the terminal. Turn the terminal in to a destination. You get a tour of where Houston began, then you tour the port and end at the terminal where there are restaurants, gift shops etc. Make it a day tour thing for tourists.

[Timoric 1514]

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Edited July 10, 2019 by Timoric

[hindesky 37946]

Wonder if the technology will ever get rid of the Stinkadena smell. My old trumpet teacher was from Pasadena, California and told a story of driving to Pasadena when he got here and well...you can figure what he thought.

Most of the stink of stinkadena came from the Simpson Paper mill by the tunnel, it's has been long gone though. The smell drapped most of Pasadena when the wind came out of the north and smelled like cabbage and what cabbage does to the body.

[Urbannizer 42372]

http://www.houstonchronicle.com/business/article/Maritime-Museum-moving-to-the-port-it-celebrates-6884856.php#photo-9591471

Touch-screen displays in the new Houston Maritime Museum, a $50 million project set to break ground by year's end at the Port of Houston, will guide visitors through exhibits about the industrial and economic behemoth.

Operators plan to fund the project, debt-free, with industry and foundation sponsors. Architecture firm Gensler and local construction company Tellepsen are working together at discounted rates on the building plans, for example. Frost Bank is helping finance the project and is a major donor.

[IronTiger 888]

Problem with the ship channel tours is it's really hard to find. The current maritime museum in the Medical Center isn't super-convenient to find, but it's a reasonably urban area with good access. The ship channel tours require exiting from the Interstate, driving through a lot of industrial area that's often curvy and potholed, then turning down an unmarked side street, crossing two railroad tracks (no lights or gates), and then just when you think you're lost, you arrive at the rather lonely-looking overlook.

I'm exaggerating this, if only gently.

Edited March 27, 2016 by IronTiger

[Mr.Clean19 433]

Google satellite shows this on the KBR Lot now... Red circle is the temporary elevated driving range.

[cloud713 3890]

Woah.. Nice find. Interesting that there are multiple circlular targets, just like a TopGolf. And that elevated booth definitely hasn't been there long. I would hope they would face the range towards downtown though, not the ship channel..

 

I wonder if this is how TopGolf generally tests sites? I'd go back through satellite history to look at the site on i10 or Spring but Google Earth on mobile doesn't seem to have that feature..

 

 

[samagon 2972]

I suspect if TG is looking, they are in a wait and see pattern before doing anything.

 

Wait and see for the oil industry, and wait and see what happens with the I-45 realignment.

[cloud713 3890]

According to the Google Earth historical views, these targets first appeared 3/27/15, were still there 7/31/15, but gone by the latest update on 3/11/16.

[BigFootsSocks 3101]

Pretty sure Top Golf doesn't have the R&D Budget to build a make-shift facility when they can just do it all computers.

[cspwal 3437]

Maybe there's a developer considering putting a driving range in the middle of town houses?

[Urbannizer 42372]

http://swamplot.com/midway-makes-a-move-on-the-former-kbr-site-in-fifth-ward/2016-07-05/

 

Whatever’s in store for the 136-acre former KBR site along the the Ship Channel at 4100 Clinton Dr., CityCentre developer Midway now looks to be involved. Documents filed with the county clerk’s office near the end of May reveal that Cathexis Holdings recently sold the site to KBRN, an entity connected to Midway through a recently minted corporate partnership (and officially located down the hall from Midway’s CityCentre office.

 

[Montrose1100 3357]

Alright, Perry Homes is looking pretty sweet right meow.

 

Also you know they're going to build a pedestrian bridge across the bayou. I know a HAIFer near by that will disappointed by that.

[H-Town Man 4536]

Just now, Montrose1100 said:

Alright, Perry Homes is looking pretty sweet right meow.

 

Also you know they're going to build a pedestrian bridge across the bayou. I know a HAIFer near by that will disappointed by that.

 

Montrose, can you unpack that a little? I am a little behind on this area of town.

 

[H-Town Man 4536]

It will be interesting to see when and how the bayou banks between there and downtown get developed now that Midway is in the game. Surely they will want walking/biking options in place before they start selling/renting homes. Perhaps they will make a nice donation to the BBP to get things underway?

 

My walking tour of that stretch of the bayou here:

 

[Mr.Clean19 433]

@H-Town Man - Perry Homes is building 20 something homes right accross the bayou from this. Not too risky in my opinion. They are selling even before this news... although the sales team over there has to feel pretty good about this new information and the potential for a pedestrian bridge between the two properties.

[Mr.Clean19 433]

For those new to the area, i've attached my version of development in the area. Should be interesting to see what happens the next few years.

East Bayou District Development Map.pdf

[Montrose1100 3357]

1 hour ago, H-Town Man said:

 

Montrose, can you unpack that a little? I am a little behind on this area of town.

 

Downtown to this area along the bayou will be developed to tie into the west side. Trails cleaned up, a couple pedestrian bridges. I don't know if it will mirror the west side, but anything will be an improvement at this point. With Midway grabbing this site one of the bridges will likely go right inbetween the Jensen & Hirsch crossings. Linking the silos as well.

 

Only concerned with the big plot of land to the east of Middle. Also North of Freud. With Midway no longer a rumor, my fever to purchase is at a boiling point.

 

Plus our office is moving to Humble. Fiancé works in TMC. Apart from toxic soil, this area is looking pretty good.

[Nucleareaction 119]

 

1 hour ago, Mr.Clean19 said:

For those new to the area, i've attached my version of development in the area. Should be interesting to see what happens the next few years.

East Bayou District Development Map.pdf

 

What is the green square supposed to be? I don't recall it being mentioned before...

[Naviguessor 2045]

Join us 'trose.  You and the fiancé would fit right in. 

This is exactly what we've been hoping for, over here in our little neighborhood.  We heard a mention of Midway's involvement recently in a neighborhood meeting and that they were working with Buffalo Bayou Partnership, on plans for the bayou.  Anne Olsen for BBP also informs that they have been working on development plans for the Bayou east of Downtown.  All sounds good too me, so far.  Its such a huge piece of property, I am sure that it will be a work in project for the decade to come.  And we need a lot more residents...

[Mr.Clean19 433]

Nuclear, thats Frank Liu's MDI lot. Some 500 homes.

[H-Town Man 4536]

3 hours ago, Mr.Clean19 said:

For those new to the area, i've attached my version of development in the area. Should be interesting to see what happens the next few years.

East Bayou District Development Map.pdf

 

Cool map. Thought there was a bit more going on on the south side with townhomes, no?

 

[Mr.Clean19 433]

I probably didnt capture everything south of the site. This was ment to capture large open tracks along the bayou in that area... Again... it is a rough copy.

[Triton 11183]

 

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Edited July 6, 2016 by Triton

[Mr.Clean19 433]

Can i quote you on that Triton?

[Sanjorade 257]

Mayor Turner wants a theme park for the city .... this could make for an interesting site.

[Montrose1100 3357]

4 minutes ago, Sanjorade said:

Mayor Turner wants a theme park for the city .... this could make for an interesting site.

Anddddd I'm scouting the west side.

[bobruss 4922]

If you go to Buffalo Bayou conservancy website and look at the master plan it is all played out and very easy to follow. It shows all their plans for the east side. Pretty impressive renderings.

[arisegundo 86]

14 years. 

[tigereye 1741]

7 hours ago, Sanjorade said:

Mayor Turner wants a theme park for the city .... this could make for an interesting site.

 

This is what I was thinking when I first read the article today. Coincidental timing of this announcement? 

 

This site is 136 acres, AstroWorld was only 57 acres IIRC. Could work and tie with BBP bayou trail efforts. 

Edited July 7, 2016 by tigereye

[arisegundo 86]

The Urban Edge weighs in, including another plan for the area by the Greater East End folks.

[EllenOlenska 1121]

I can't wait til I start seeing renderings and am able to differentiate all these massive concrete seas surrounding downtown from each other.

Edited July 7, 2016 by EllenOlenska

[Mr.Clean19 433]

Booo amusement park.... BOOooooo. The UT Campus would have been a great idea. Or a Green Energy Corridor. Heck, you could even make a dock right there on the bayou to barge products out. The Cathexsis owners were using the site to ship Reactors to jobsites.

[Montrose1100 3357]

I hope they incorporate the current office tower. Although I wouldn't complain if it washed out in contemporary design.

[intencity77 255]

33 minutes ago, Montrose1100 said:

I hope they incorporate the current office tower. Although I wouldn't complain if it washed out in contemporary design.

 

Yeah I had the same thought as well. If it's still structurally sound, I could see them renovating and possibly recladding the exterior especially since Midway typically likes to include office space in their projects. 

Edited July 7, 2016 by intencity77

[tigereye 1741]

I'm gonna guess Northbank Buffalo Bayou is the Post Office site and the East End site is something else.

 

http://swamplot.com/midway-our-giant-fifth-ward-site-wont-be-called-northbank-buffalo-bayou-but-something-else-might/2016-07-07/