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intencity77    167

Good! We don’t have 20-30 years to wait for the majority of uninformed/ignorant consumers to get on board with these plastic bans. I feel they need to be forced at this point especially for the sake of our planet, ocean and wildlife. They didn’t ask for our non biodegradable waste in their habitats. And shame on Texas for going backasswards on the city plastic bag bans.  I live in Santa Fe, NM now where there is a plastic bag ban and it has been a very easy transition for us. The affordable and durable fabric reusable bags have worked out just fine when grocery shopping and are much stronger than the flimsy plastic bags. It’s truly a no brainer. I do concur that some plastic bags will still have purpose but not in the highly wasteful amounts that we are currently using. 

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mkultra25    606

Interesting piece in the Atlantic about this:

 

https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2018/06/disposable-america/563204/?src=longreads

 

I think the industry will move toward the biodegradable/compostable straws mentioned at the end of the piece, as I can't see a return to paper straws, which truly suck (pun fully intended). Same thing needs to happen with disposable plastic bags, a more widespread switch to using materials that decay reasonably quickly as opposed to winding up in the oceans or in a landfill indefinitely. These days I generally rely on the reusable bags when grocery shopping, but I can't say I've completely sworn off plastic bags. More places need to have the big recycling barrels where they can be deposited after use, instead of just throwing them in the trash.

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Nate99    6,336
On ‎7‎/‎2‎/‎2018 at 10:19 AM, intencity77 said:

Good! We don’t have 20-30 years to wait for the majority of uninformed/ignorant consumers to get on board with these plastic bans. I feel they need to be forced at this point especially for the sake of our planet, ocean and wildlife. They didn’t ask for our non biodegradable waste in their habitats. And shame on Texas for going backasswards on the city plastic bag bans.  I live in Santa Fe, NM now where there is a plastic bag ban and it has been a very easy transition for us. The affordable and durable fabric reusable bags have worked out just fine when grocery shopping and are much stronger than the flimsy plastic bags. It’s truly a no brainer. I do concur that some plastic bags will still have purpose but not in the highly wasteful amounts that we are currently using. 

 

Thankfully, in this country, we can choose among many interrelated policy and enforcement approaches and see what works with respect to overall quality of life. Backasswards is, after all, a matter of perspective.

 

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“I caught a nice fish and it came up on the shore and it was flopping around and I was going to keep it. It was a hatchery fish. And I picked it up and it had a hypodermic needle sticking out the side of it,”

 

https://q13fox.com/2017/07/15/volunteers-pick-up-needles-clothes-human-waste-from-snohomish-river-banks/

 

Anyway, I don't get the impression that bags and straws in Seattle and Santa Fe are a serious threat to habitats or anything else.  I suppose some may see solid waste landfills in the U.S. as an abomination.  I think they are, overall, the result of a pretty well managed system of tradeoffs.

 

Other places aren't so lucky...

 

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/stemming-the-plastic-tide-10-rivers-contribute-most-of-the-plastic-in-the-oceans/

 

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trymahjong    231

I think I noticed in membership newsletter from the zoo that there is a big promotion going on about “ a day without plastic”

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dbigtex56    302
On ‎7‎/‎3‎/‎2018 at 3:24 PM, Nate99 said:

Thankfully, in this country, we can choose among many interrelated policy and enforcement approaches and see what works with respect to overall quality of life. Backasswards is, after all, a matter of perspective.

Perhaps in this country, but not in this backassward state: https://setexasrecord.com/stories/511471281-texas-supreme-court-rule-affirms-laredo-s-bag-ban-is-illegal

 

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BeerNut    426
1 hour ago, dbigtex56 said:

Where's the nostalgia for paper bags?  I used to enjoy the challenge of "3d tetris"  when I worked as a sacker back in the day.  I don't see why businesses complained, they have no issue passing the cost of wages and health care to consumers/tax payers.  This should be an opportunity for business to promote themselves as eco friendly.  

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Nate99    6,336
7 minutes ago, BeerNut said:

Where's the nostalgia for paper bags?  I used to enjoy the challenge of "3d tetris"  when I worked as a sacker back in the day.  I don't see why businesses complained, they have no issue passing the cost of wages and health care to consumers/tax payers.  This should be an opportunity for business to promote themselves as eco friendly.  

 

If it's an opportunity, it doesn't have to be mandated.  Some stores don't give bags at all, and they survive.  

 

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BeerNut    426

Well to differentiate themselves from other business.  Personally I would like a single use bag ban and  bottle & can deposit in this state but that will never happen.

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trymahjong    231

Tried to use edit button but didn’t work

 

i meant to write

Starbuck says

No more plastic straws

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trymahjong    231

Read in Washington Post today that Marriott Hotels are eliminating plastic straws.........hmmmmmmm

 

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trymahjong    231

I was up in Manhattan a few weeks and noticed that most of the upscale “ Green” foodie or juice places didn’t automatically give you a straw with your drink......you had to request one. I’m wondering if banning plastic straws is perhaps a slow moving thing.

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cspwal    2,140

I've noticed a couple of places that I wouldn't really think of as either back away from plastic straws 

 - Flying saucer has switched to paper straws for the glass of water that you should be drinking with beer; you're not drinking enough water if the straw gets soggy

 - Mod pizza I noticed has the biodegradable plastic straws

 

and unintentionally, the Chick-Fil-A at the airport didn't give me a straw, but I think that was more them forgetting.

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samagon    2,204

 

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"Bans can play a role," says oceanographer Kara Lavendar Law, a co-author with Jambeck of the 2015 Science study. "We are not going to solve the problem by banning straws."

Read more at: https://phys.org/news/2018-04-science-amount-straws-plastic-pollution.html#jCp

 

sums it up pretty good.

 

it's a waste of government time/money to ban straws. 

 

as was referenced by nate99 in July, something needs to be done to help the bigger polluters stop/slow their pollution.

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august948    700

The plastic bag ban is one of several annoying things about Austin. If someone really wants to go on a crusade about this, they should contact the Chinese consulate.

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