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It looks like the North Canal project will involve $20 million of local funding and $80 million from a partner, presumably either the federal or state government. Based on this document, there is $2.25 billion in Local Only projects and $872 million in local funding for Partner projects (this is one of those). The bond is for $2.5 billion, so I don't see how it covers all of the "2018 Bond Projects" which would seem to require $3.12 billion in local funds, but maybe some of the money is coming from the normal Flood tax budget.

 

https://www.hcfcd.org/media/2907/2018bondprojectlist2018-08-06-1130.pdf

 

The North Canal is project number E200-02-00-NC.

 

tl;dr - we will still have to wait on outside funding to see the North Canal get built, but it is in the pipeline.

 

 

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25 minutes ago, wilcal said:

I believe the north canal is shown in the newish renderings I saw at the NHHIP open house last night: 

 

https://www.houstonarchitecture.com/haif/topic/28553-the-pierce-elevatedi-59-redesign-thread/?page=52&tab=comments#comment-576090

 

Specifically this rendering: https://i.imgur.com/VhbaXoJ.jpg

Yes, I actually talked to the city planner for this poster, and he was telling me how that area is mainly industrial and that it floods a lot. 

 

We talked about the possibility of creating a wildlife Island park similar to Stanley Park in Vancouver; which would help reduce flooding in the area. 

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15 minutes ago, pablog said:

Yes, I actually talked to the city planner for this poster, and he was telling me how that area is mainly industrial and that it floods a lot. 

 

We talked about the possibility of creating a wildlife Island park similar to Stanley Park in Vancouver; which would help reduce flooding in the area. 

 

Stanley Park is amazing. If there is any chance of anything like that then that would be incredible. 

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7 hours ago, wilcal said:

I believe the north canal is shown in the newish renderings I saw at the NHHIP open house last night: 

 

https://www.houstonarchitecture.com/haif/topic/28553-the-pierce-elevatedi-59-redesign-thread/?page=52&tab=comments#comment-576090

 

Specifically this rendering: https://i.imgur.com/VhbaXoJ.jpg

 

The wetlands/retention ponds could be a great idea, if done correctly.

 

Does this supplant the earlier idea below of TXDOT constructing a South Canal as part of the 45 Reroute?

 

On 3/21/2018 at 8:38 AM, cspwal said:

Another canal is being proposed by TxDot along with the 45 re-route, according to the Chronicle article.

 

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12 hours ago, tigereye said:

 

 

Does this supplant the earlier idea below of TXDOT constructing a South Canal as part of the 45 Reroute?

 

 

 

I actually asked about the south canal and I was told it wasn't going to happen, but the guy didn't sound so sure of himself. 

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So, replacing the six bridges...okay, Ella Blvd. and 18th, fine, you could keep at least one open at any given time. 11th? Use T.C. Jester. But...replacing Yale? They just DID that. Are you saying that they're going to tear down a bridge that is currently less than 2 years old? The old bridge was over 80 before they wrecked it! (And they wouldn't tear down and rebuild an abandoned bridge, would they?)

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15 hours ago, IronTiger said:

So, replacing the six bridges...okay, Ella Blvd. and 18th, fine, you could keep at least one open at any given time. 11th? Use T.C. Jester. But...replacing Yale? They just DID that. Are you saying that they're going to tear down a bridge that is currently less than 2 years old? The old bridge was over 80 before they wrecked it! (And they wouldn't tear down and rebuild an abandoned bridge, would they?)

The Yale bridge was built too low,and is an impediment during high water events. The rail bridge next to it is still there, because it can't be removed without a study that details the downstream impacts. Rebuilding the 11th Street bridge would be a giant pain in the ass, since the next bridge is at 18th Street. 

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On 8/30/2018 at 8:14 PM, tigereye said:

 

 

The wetlands/retention ponds could be a great idea, if done correctly.

 

Does this supplant the earlier idea below of TXDOT constructing a South Canal as part of the 45 Reroute?

 

 

 

It seems like if you build too many bypasses, you speed up water flow to the point where erosion becomes a very substantial problem. Erosion was significant during Harvey. Throws into doubt the wisdom of spending millions on parks along the bayou if they could erode away.

 

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7 hours ago, H-Town Man said:

 

It seems like if you build too many bypasses, you speed up water flow to the point where erosion becomes a very substantial problem. Erosion was significant during Harvey. Throws into doubt the wisdom of spending millions on parks along the bayou if they could erode away.

 

The parks didn't erode, they were buried under silt from upstream, at least from the dog park going downstream.

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1 hour ago, H-Town Man said:

 

There was also significant erosion. Sidewalks collapsing because they were hollowed out underneath, etc.

 

Yes, there were several areas of the park, down by the edge of the bayou where the sidewalk collapsed because of erosion.  I am not sure if that has been fixed or if those sections remain closed.

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This article gives an interesting array of comments on issues that are being discussed for downtown's development. Apparently there was a Future of Downtown event at The Rice a few days ago, but this article was written prior as a kind of preview of the event. Anyone hear anything about what was said at the event?

 

https://www.bisnow.com/houston/news/retail/five-trends-to-watch-in-downtown-houston-92579?rt=62429

 

One of the more interesting bits was the discussion of two vacant blocks of land along La Branch that are owned by international companies. I assume these are the two blocks north of Root Park. I couldn't tell from the quote whether they were discussing anything with the landowners or if they are just hoping these blocks will get developed.

 

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I think hotels and residences are still the catalyst for retail and to break the 9-5 aspect of downtown. Houston's DT  hotel additions are a good sign and bodes well for tourism/visitors. Houston has steadily been getting good reviews from travel and food critics. Something not mentioned in the article are the new parking garages going up that will bring more intown visitors. 

 

It certainly doesn't hurt the Astros and Rockets have been good for the last several years, averaging 37,000 and 18,000 per game respectively.

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On 9/21/2018 at 11:18 AM, H-Town Man said:

This article gives an interesting array of comments on issues that are being discussed for downtown's development. Apparently there was a Future of Downtown event at The Rice a few days ago, but this article was written prior as a kind of preview of the event. Anyone hear anything about what was said at the event?

 

https://www.bisnow.com/houston/news/retail/five-trends-to-watch-in-downtown-houston-92579?rt=62429

 

One of the more interesting bits was the discussion of two vacant blocks of land along La Branch that are owned by international companies. I assume these are the two blocks north of Root Park. I couldn't tell from the quote whether they were discussing anything with the landowners or if they are just hoping these blocks will get developed.

 

I find Mr Eury’s discussion on retail enlightening but depressing.

 

this document was published 5 years ago and fully executed on by the taxpayer:

http://www.downtowndistrict.org/static/media/uploads/downtown_retail_task_force_report_sept_12_2013_online.pdf

 

yet, I read into Mr. Eury’s comments that it isn’t working:  Hard and soft goods Retail is not coming.  Heck, Mr. Eury now seems to see the tunnels as a “night time” shopping solution.  

 

Perhaps the author of the article didn’t capture Mr. Eury’s sentiments properly.  Perhaps I am interpreting the words wrong.  Or perhaps i’m not.

 

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