Timoric Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 (edited) - Edited July 11, 2019 by Timoric Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UtterlyUrban Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 7 hours ago, jmitch94 said: Can you imagine if everyone in Manhattan tried to drive themselves to work, it would be utter chaos. Bingo. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mollusk Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 10 hours ago, jmitch94 said: Can you imagine if everyone in Manhattan tried to drive themselves to work, it would be utter chaos. It would also cost them a metric duckton of money to park... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angostura Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 On 11/16/2017 at 10:53 AM, jmitch94 said: Can you imagine if everyone in Manhattan tried to drive themselves to work, it would be utter chaos. If everyone in Manhattan drove themselves to work, Manhattan would look a lot like downtown Houston: a lot lower activity density, a lot more parking. Transit is kind of a chicken-and-egg problem. You can't get transit to be even close to cost-efficient without much higher density than pretty much every part of pretty much every US city has. And it's politically very difficult to achieve that kind of density without a workable transit system, because neighborhoods object to new development by citing increased traffic and parking concerns. Houston has some advantages in this area, since developers can add density by right, so there's no need to up-zone in order to increase density. But at the same time, our setback requirements and parking minimums tend to make fine-grained walkable development all but impossible, and result in very low activity density, even in central neighborhoods. And we dedicate a very high proportion of land-area to non-productive uses. For example, EaDo is a rapidly densifying urban neighborhood, with a mix of multi-family residential, high-density single-family residential, and commercial development. But the area is platted with 280-ft blocks with 80-ft rights of way, which means that almost 40% of land area is RoW. That's before you add in parking minimums and setbacks. Very hard to get to a critical mass of activity density when half your land area is empty. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeerNut Posted December 21, 2017 Share Posted December 21, 2017 Any word when they will start developing this site? After the 2nd year of them hosting D4N, I'm beginning to think that the festival in it's current form will last only as long as the site isn't developed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
htownbro Posted December 21, 2017 Share Posted December 21, 2017 51 minutes ago, BeerNut said: Any word when they will start developing this site? After the 2nd year of them hosting D4N, I'm beginning to think that the festival in it's current form will last only as long as the site isn't developed. Where will Day for Night festival go??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tangledwoods Posted December 21, 2017 Share Posted December 21, 2017 Quote Any word when they will start developing this site? I would put good money on NOTHING happening until the I-45 realignment is either done or well on its way. Who would want to office or live right in the armpit of 10 years worth of freeway construction.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cspwal Posted December 21, 2017 Share Posted December 21, 2017 Anyone who doesn't want to go west or north Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timoric Posted December 21, 2017 Share Posted December 21, 2017 (edited) - Edited July 12, 2019 by Timoric Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texasota Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 I mean, that's sort of what they've been doing, though I don't think anything's been demoed. It's such a huge site, they wouldn't need to tear down any of the buildings; just break up the concrete parking lots and throw down some sod. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigFootsSocks Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 I would assume whatever future property Lovett buys, or perhaps an extension of this, will be where D4N is held; they had their inaugural year at the Sawyer Yards (also Lovett) 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
innerloop Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 18 hours ago, Timoric said: How about bulldoze it all and make it the best park in Houston for 10 years for concerts, dog play, picnics, art, food trucks, and some pick up volleyball or kickball games No way! The beauty of that site is all of that indoor space just waiting to be built out. With the realities of Houston weather, having indoor recreational space would be a great compliment to the adjacent outdoor space along the bayou. My wife and I were at D4N and during one of the breaks we started listing some of the possibilities: indoor electric go-kart track, bowling alley, shooting range, miniature golf, pool hall, arcade, skating/hockey rinks, lawn bowling, cornhole, RC car track. I'm sure that there are more. Maybe carnival rides for kids that can work within the existing ceiling heights? All of those other things you mention are great, but can't we do those at Eleanor Tinsley park? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H-Town Man Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 4 hours ago, innerloop said: No way! The beauty of that site is all of that indoor space just waiting to be built out. With the realities of Houston weather, having indoor recreational space would be a great compliment to the adjacent outdoor space along the bayou. My wife and I were at D4N and during one of the breaks we started listing some of the possibilities: indoor electric go-kart track, bowling alley, shooting range, miniature golf, pool hall, arcade, skating/hockey rinks, lawn bowling, cornhole, RC car track. I'm sure that there are more. Maybe carnival rides for kids that can work within the existing ceiling heights? All of those other things you mention are great, but can't we do those at Eleanor Tinsley park? I think this will be more of a playground for adults than a playground for kids. You basically described the old Fame City. Which is all well and good, but people looking for that usually care a lot about parking and easy access and very little about downtown location. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_cuevas713 Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 3 hours ago, CrockpotandGravel said: If you go back and read some of the more recent articles and minutes from the Downtown Houston meeting, renovations began this year. They're working on the building while leasing it and their other properties out for events. Exactly how I understood it. It seems the renovation is happening as they lease out spacr for events like D4N. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeerNut Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 I didn't notice any structural changes from last year. At least the plumbing inside the building was improved. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_cuevas713 Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 On 12/25/2017 at 3:38 PM, BeerNut said: I didn't notice any structural changes from last year. At least the plumbing inside the building was improved. That may be initial steps they're taking. After the festival I could see them start to make changes. Let's cross our fingers. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urbannizer Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 http://www.txrfc.com/En/Post/Post.aspx Assuming this was the previous plan? Quote COMMUNITY HIGHLIGHTS Participation of the firm OMA, one of the leading architectural firms in the world. Luxury apartments for rent, built by Hanover, one of the largest contractors in the United States. Great location, 16 acres of land in downtown Houston, surrounded by Interstate 45 and Interstate 10. Government and the media attach great importance to the project. The project won the "Best Reconstruction Project in Houston, 2015" by Realty News Report. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kbates2 Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 Most important proposed project (with a legitimate chance)? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_cuevas713 Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 2 minutes ago, CrockpotandGravel said: The Post HTX video on Vimeo is no longer private (Lovett Commerical marked it private after Swamplot's report on the mixed use details with renderings) The video is outdated and doesn't show the newer renderings from the brochure that was online last year. Outdated as it may be (I think it was from late 2016), it's similar to the newer renderings and depictions from Post HTX's leasing brochure and website design plans that hasn't been updated to show the renderings.https://player.vimeo.com/video/201923389 I feel like this is where our tech startup district is going to be. I could be wrong, but this is one of the main reasons Houston lost the bid for Amazon. We need new ideas in this city. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downtownian Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 1 hour ago, CrockpotandGravel said: The Post HTX video on Vimeo is no longer private (Lovett Commerical marked it private after Swamplot's report on the mixed use details with renderings) The video is outdated and doesn't show the newer renderings from the brochure that was online last year. Outdated as it may be (I think it was from late 2016), it's similar to the newer renderings and depictions from Post HTX's leasing brochure and website design plans that hasn't been updated to show the renderings.https://player.vimeo.com/video/201923389 The video mentions that there will be co-working (1:35) and a food hall (1:38). I feel like downtown is already saturated with these things. We already have 4 food halls open / in planning stages and there is a 10 story WeWork coming to 708 Main... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_cuevas713 Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 5 minutes ago, downtownian said: The video mentions that there will be co-working (1:35) and a food hall (1:38). I feel like downtown is already saturated with these things. We already have 4 food halls open / in planning stages and there is a 10 story WeWork coming to 708 Main... You can't have enough. If you want downtown to grow and densify, these types of developments can't have just 1 or 2 locations. You need lot's of these types of meeting places for PEOPLE. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_cuevas713 Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 (edited) With the way they are explaining this location it just makes sense that this is going to become our SoMa SF. It's centrally located in an overall thriving area with solid infrastructure and the ability to draw some MAJOR tenants. I think the city will eventually name this our tech district which would be absolutely huge and a real game changer for this city. When a company like We Work opens offices in your city, it's because they see the potential for technology. We have to capitalize on this and keep our young talent in Houston. I work in animation and I've been waiting a very long time to see something like this happen. I just didn't know where and when it would happen. Edited January 19, 2018 by j_cuevas713 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_cuevas713 Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 I just read that the entire project is a 5 to 8 year plan. I'm a little disappointed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobruss Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 If they can stick to that schedule, it will be a good pace to develop that large of a project. I like the idea of it growing in stages. Give it a little time to feel things out. Besides look how far along Regents Square is after 8 years. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_cuevas713 Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, bobruss said: If they can stick to that schedule, it will be a good pace to develop that large of a project. I like the idea of it growing in stages. Give it a little time to feel things out. Besides look how far along Regents Square is after 8 years. I guess you're right. By the time I'm 80 everything will be finished lol Edited January 24, 2018 by j_cuevas713 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samagon Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 On 1/19/2018 at 0:48 PM, downtownian said: The video mentions that there will be co-working (1:35) and a food hall (1:38). I feel like downtown is already saturated with these things. We already have 4 food halls open / in planning stages and there is a 10 story WeWork coming to 708 Main... I don't know about co-working, but food halls, with as many new residents there are in downtown, it can sustain a whole lot more than just a 5th food hall. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_cuevas713 Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 1 minute ago, samagon said: I don't know about co-working, but food halls, with as many new residents there are in downtown, it can sustain a whole lot more than just a 5th food hall. I'm just glad more co-working spots are opening up. The more the better. Especially for creatives in this city. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marsnasa Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 Who's the architect? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_cuevas713 Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 3 hours ago, CrockpotandGravel said: Does anyone know for sure if Rem Koolhaas OMA ( Office of Metropolitan Architecture) is designing the remodel of Post HTX? Offcite is reporting OMA is no longer involved. Here's the excerpt:Back in Houston, PostHTX’s emptiness is temporary, and only the result of the time it has taken to plan for the site’s reuse. Before becoming the downtown post office, the land was first Houston’s Grand Central Depot and then the Southern Pacific Grand Central Station; though the tracks are gone, their traces still remain in back of the complex. The post office, designed by the architecture office of Wilson, Morris, Crane, and Anderson, was built in 1962, and renamed to honor Barbara Jordan in 1984, a native of Houston’s Fifth Ward. Citing contractions in federal post office budgets, the building was sold in 2015 to Lovett Commercial, who is now researching how best to redevelop the campus. PostHTX already has its acronym-based rebranding, an early indicator of the redevelopment that is to come: The duality of post references the building while hinting at its future. What was a techno playground for three days will, in a few years’ time and if all goes according to the advertising, be “transformed into a fully immersive destination featuring a variety of office, retail, and culinary experiences.”Lovett Commercial has consulted many architects, including local ones, to understand how to renovate the post office complex. Rem Koolhaas’s OMA was engaged at some point but is no longer working on the project. In 2012, Koolhaas lectured at Rice, discussing his current research project of preservation and articulating a position of “history without preservation.” The idea embraces material engagement with the past, not “preserving history” but instead “revealing history,” in a manner that invites newness. Buildings are not renovated or preserved, but instead remixed. Since then, OMA’s built work in projects like Garage Museum of Contemporary Art or the Fondazione Prada campus in Milan have shown that this theory can be translated into cultural buildings with successful results. http://offcite.org/posthtx-as-fun-palace-a-review-of-day-for-night-and-what-happens-next/ I wonder if Koolhaas was used to help fully grasp the concept of what Lovett wants to do. Maybe they were confident he could help get that point across with the potential of the site. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luminare Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 12 minutes ago, j_cuevas713 said: I wonder if Koolhaas was used to help fully grasp the concept of what Lovett wants to do. Maybe they were confident he could help get that point across with the potential of the site. Thats probably exactly what happened. It's the same when a company might want to develop a master plan for project, but then hire a different architect for an individual building. In this case they wanted to pick the mind of a architectural theorist like Koolhaas, but then get other architects to do more detailed parts of the project. This happens quite a lot actually. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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