TheNiche Posted June 23, 2008 Share Posted June 23, 2008 MainPlace is approximately 50% taller, so one presumes they will need a significantly deeper and more substantial foundation. Plus, I would imagine that having the Stowers Building to work around (and protect) does not exactly speed up the process.Not only is it taller, but its structure will be concrete rather than steel. Upon completion, it'll be the heaviest building in Houston. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HtownWxBoy Posted June 23, 2008 Share Posted June 23, 2008 Not only is it taller, but its structure will be concrete rather than steel. Upon completion, it'll be the heaviest building in Houston.Really? That's interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CasaNova Posted June 23, 2008 Share Posted June 23, 2008 Not only is it taller, but its structure will be concrete rather than steel. Upon completion, it'll be the heaviest building in Houston.Not only will it be taller and heavier. Since this place will actually have access to tunnel connection, I would imagine they have to configure and prep the land even more so, that DGT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkjones98 Posted June 23, 2008 Share Posted June 23, 2008 Not to mention they had to remove Hotel Montague. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Great Hizzy! Posted June 23, 2008 Share Posted June 23, 2008 Gee, seems the only thing this building is missing a large block letter 'S' surrounded by a shield placed smack dab in the middle of the building's facade.That and a cape. Can't forget the cape. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highway6 Posted June 23, 2008 Share Posted June 23, 2008 Not only is it taller, but its structure will be concrete rather than steel. Upon completion, it'll be the heaviest building in Houston.The majority of our buildings downtown, as in much the south, have concrete or composite structures.Chase tower has a composite concrete structural system.Why would this tower be any heavier then the dozen or so of its taller concrete bruthas ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNiche Posted June 24, 2008 Share Posted June 24, 2008 The majority of our buildings downtown, as in much the south, have concrete or composite structures.Chase tower has a composite concrete structural system.Why would this tower be any heavier then the dozen or so of its taller concrete bruthas ?I get questions like these and wish I were a structural engineer. I distinctly remember that the guy from Hines mentioned something special about the concrete...but I can't place the exact verbage...whether it was "pre-cast," "poured," or something else. In any case, that was their conclusion, that it would be heavier than anything built previously. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedScare Posted June 24, 2008 Share Posted June 24, 2008 Why would this tower be any heavier then the dozen or so of its taller concrete bruthas ? Perhaps it is because of its "Twin I-Beam Construction". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWW Posted June 24, 2008 Share Posted June 24, 2008 I get questions like these and wish I were a structural engineer. I distinctly remember that the guy from Hines mentioned something special about the concrete...but I can't place the exact verbage...whether it was "pre-cast," "poured," or something else. In any case, that was their conclusion, that it would be heavier than anything built previously.Is there anyone reading this who has an engineering background or can elaborate (here or in a more general thread) about building systems and thier characteristics (i.e. poured-in-place concrete vs. pre-cast vs. tilt vs. composite, etc.) ??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
citizen4rmptown Posted July 8, 2008 Share Posted July 8, 2008 any updates on this?(gotten taller,ect.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lockmat Posted July 8, 2008 Share Posted July 8, 2008 (gotten taller,ect.)lol, has a building ever gotten taller? I wish, but I doubt it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jax Posted July 8, 2008 Share Posted July 8, 2008 Last night I looked it was still negative height... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kjb434 Posted July 8, 2008 Share Posted July 8, 2008 I'm not a structural engineer, but i do have some background in geotechnical engineering (subset of Civil Engineering).The deep excavations and large basements are build to offset the immense weight of a building.The science behind this is that the lower level of earthen material has existed for a much longer time with either weight of just the existing soil above or other buildings. Engineers will design a large basement to remove as much existing soil, since the weight is now gone, the building's weight can replace it.This will reduce the amount of concrete needed to form a foundation and/or footings.The use of basements in large buildings is not just efficient land use, it's for engineering reasons too. Just look at how large the excavation for the World Trade Towers were in NYC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmoneybangbang Posted July 8, 2008 Share Posted July 8, 2008 Probably doesn't help it rains a lot in Houston. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
citizen4rmptown Posted July 9, 2008 Share Posted July 9, 2008 Last night I looked it was still negative height...oh well, for 47 stories , its gotta take a long time, just wanted to know the progress Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PAC Posted July 9, 2008 Share Posted July 9, 2008 FYI - the MainPlace website is up and running today. The video section will be complete shortly, as we're trying to find a good mix of quality and download speed for the building videos. www.mainplacehouston.com(and no, the building has not gotten any taller. Still 46 stories with a 2 story parapet wall on top) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lockmat Posted July 9, 2008 Share Posted July 9, 2008 oh my freakin gosh...this is gonna be amazing up closek, settleing down...let us know when yall have the videos up??thanks for the heads up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
citizen4rmptown Posted July 9, 2008 Share Posted July 9, 2008 FYI - the MainPlace website is up and running today. The video section will be complete shortly, as we're trying to find a good mix of quality and download speed for the building videos. www.mainplacehouston.com (and no, the building has not gotten any taller. Still 46 stories with a 2 story parapet wall on top) I just had a chukle Sorry, i shuld've explained myself more clearly.. I meant like if it's going up(construction-wise) like if went From this To this: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lockmat Posted July 9, 2008 Share Posted July 9, 2008 FYI - the MainPlace website is up and running today. The video section will be complete shortly, as we're trying to find a good mix of quality and download speed for the building videos. www.mainplacehouston.comAlso, it's got an exxon building vibe to it with the shades. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deut28Thirteen Posted July 9, 2008 Share Posted July 9, 2008 Great website cant wait for the movies. Mainplace will be one of Texas' nicest towers and improve our skyline greatly! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jax Posted July 9, 2008 Share Posted July 9, 2008 For those of you who were wondering where the retail would be located...http://www.mainplacehouston.com/pdf/maps/H...rtsV6__(p1).PDF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kjb434 Posted July 9, 2008 Share Posted July 9, 2008 Based on that, it'll probably be just a restaurant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rsb320 Posted July 9, 2008 Share Posted July 9, 2008 Based on that, it'll probably be just a restaurant.My thinking as well. It'll probably be a Skyline Cafe like the one in Hines' 717 Texas Building. They sell food, but stock some convenient store type things too. It'll probably close at 4:00 and not be open on weekends. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rsb320 Posted July 9, 2008 Share Posted July 9, 2008 (edited) I just remembered that this building will connect to the tunnel system. Is it going to hook up with Macy's?Does anyone know anything about the bunkers under Macy's? I remember reading something a long time ago. Apparently, there are several floor levels beneath the store and can accomodate (say) 2000 or so people. This was, of course, built during the nuclear age. It would be so cool if they had tours and such.editSorry, Macy's is clear down the street. I wonder where they will beconnecting to. I'll have to go look at a tunnel map to see what's closest. Edited July 9, 2008 by rsb320 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swtsig Posted July 9, 2008 Share Posted July 9, 2008 the video is very well done... this is gonna be a very nice building. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyEvilTwin Posted July 10, 2008 Share Posted July 10, 2008 This rendering makes me think of Denny Crane & Allen Shore smoking a couple of cigars & drinking scotch at the end of a Boston Legal episode. Cracks me up!! It's a beautiful building. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lockmat Posted July 10, 2008 Share Posted July 10, 2008 the video is very well done... this is gonna be a very nice building.so you've seen it privately? cuz it's not on the website Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trae Posted July 10, 2008 Share Posted July 10, 2008 the video is very well done... this is gonna be a very nice building.Lies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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HtownWxBoy Posted July 10, 2008 Share Posted July 10, 2008 This rendering makes me think of Denny Crane & Allen Shore smoking a couple of cigars & drinking scotch at the end of a Boston Legal episode. Cracks me up!! It's a beautiful building. LOVE THAT SHOW!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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