JLWM8609 Posted December 3, 2010 Share Posted December 3, 2010 http://www.29-95.com/bars-clubs/story/scott-gertner-0When Scott Gertner’s storied Skybar abruptly closed in July, the reactions were intense and immediate."It was getting frustrating reading the emails from people asking for the Skybar. 'When are you going to reopen? Where are you going to reopen?’” Gertner said.“I was going through some anxiety there. It was really neat that people were wanting to have it again. But I just knew that I couldn't do a lateral move." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
totheskies Posted December 3, 2010 Share Posted December 3, 2010 FANTASTIC NEWS!!! Should be a great venue and will help fill an important void left by the closings of both the Skybar and the Red Cat. It seems like our live music venues in Houston have been taking a BIG hit this year, but I can tell 2011 is already going to be better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LTAWACS Posted December 3, 2010 Share Posted December 3, 2010 sounds cool Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Posted December 3, 2010 Share Posted December 3, 2010 Great news for a great guy. Although not quite as picturesque of a view, this place looks like it's going to be fantastic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLWM8609 Posted December 4, 2010 Author Share Posted December 4, 2010 FANTASTIC NEWS!!! Should be a great venue and will help fill an important void left by the closings of both the Skybar and the Red Cat. It seems like our live music venues in Houston have been taking a BIG hit this year, but I can tell 2011 is already going to be better.Did you know Red Cat is moving to Pearland? Yeah, I don't really equate Pearland with live jazz music, but who knows? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lockmat Posted December 4, 2010 Share Posted December 4, 2010 alright, i think we have 3 different threads talking about this now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LTAWACS Posted December 6, 2010 Share Posted December 6, 2010 Red cat??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kylejack Posted December 6, 2010 Share Posted December 6, 2010 Yes, Red Cat was closed for non-payment of rent a couple months ago and are reopening in Pearland soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
citykid09 Posted November 9, 2011 Share Posted November 9, 2011 Is the Skybar ever going to open? its been almost a year since I have heard anything. Also Is Red Cat Jazz still open? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniepwils Posted November 9, 2011 Share Posted November 9, 2011 Is this going to be a rooftop club? please tell me no...Or will it be in doors?If outdoors can they get around the noise ordinance? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
infinite_jim Posted November 9, 2011 Share Posted November 9, 2011 (edited) It's on the top level of the outdoor mall. It is an indoor venue but it has an exterior patio area with seating. I'm pretty sure the closest residents in the Humble tower won't be able to hear much noise if the setup is indoors primarily. Edited November 9, 2011 by infinite_jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniepwils Posted November 10, 2011 Share Posted November 10, 2011 It's on the top level of the outdoor mall. It is an indoor venue but it has an exterior patio area with seating. I'm pretty sure the closest residents in the Humble tower won't be able to hear much noise if the setup is indoors primarily.That is where I am. I am literally the closest resident to this project, lol. I talked to the GM of The Pavilions yesterday and she said that all the music will be indoors, although they will have a roof deck area with music it will be enclosed. And that Scott Gertner has noise ordinance requirements in his lease as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LTAWACS Posted November 12, 2011 Share Posted November 12, 2011 argh... so when will it open? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniepwils Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 Well they kept up many residents in our building Saturday night... windows and beds were shaking... I am not sure how this will turn out...I couldn't sleep until 2am... Even with earplugs in and pillows on my head. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lockmat Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 Well they kept up many residents in our building Saturday night... windows and beds were shaking... I am not sure how this will turn out...I couldn't sleep until 2am... Even with earplugs in and pillows on my head.How long has it been open? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniepwils Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 How long has it been open?The weekend when the Texans had their first playoff game I believe. But they had a few soft openings before that as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
infinite_jim Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 Why not use the draconian sound ordinance while you still can? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fringe Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 Has Scott gone heavy metal on us? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniepwils Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 He actually called me last night and left a message. I was at the gym so I missed the call. I was surprised to have received a voicemail from him personally. He asked that I email him, since it is easier for him to communicate that way (and better to have things in writing I guess ) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniepwils Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 Why not use the draconian sound ordinance while you still can?I don't think it is draconian at all. Noise pollution is out of control. If anything it needs to be enforced more, and the fines should go up after numerous occurrences. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kylejack Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 I don't think it is draconian at all. Noise pollution is out of control. If anything it needs to be enforced more, and the fines should go up after numerous occurrences.You don't think it is draconian to have a noise ordinance which is not based on any objective decibel standard? How is that fair? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniepwils Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 You don't think it is draconian to have a noise ordinance which is not based on any objective decibel standard? How is that fair?We had that, it never worked, because very few police officers had the equipment to read it, and even when they did it wasn't calibrated correctly, or so it could be contested in a court of law. If you can hear the noise from inside your home and so can a police officer, then the noise is too loud. If the person who has the loud noise refuses to turn it down, then yes, they should be fined. Everyone is entitled to a peaceful home. Sorry if that offends anyone, just the way I see it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kylejack Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 We had that, it never worked, because very few police officers had the equipment to read it, and even when they did it wasn't calibrated correctly, or so it could be contested in a court of law. If you can hear the noise from inside your home and so can a police officer, then the noise is too loud.That is not the standard in the new ordinance. Your house has walls, and the new standard relates to noise that can be heard from the sidewalk outside the venue.If the person who has the loud noise refuses to turn it down, then yes, they should be fined. Everyone is entitled to a peaceful home. Sorry if that offends anyone, just the way I see it.That is not the nature of the new ordinance. They can be fined (and arrested) regardless of whether they refuse to turn it down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniepwils Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 That is not the standard in the new ordinance. Your house has walls, and the new standard relates to noise that can be heard from the sidewalk outside the venue.That is not the nature of the new ordinance. They can be fined (and arrested) regardless of whether they refuse to turn it down.I am not arguing with you regarding the new ordinance, I didn't even mention the new ordinance. I did respond to your post regarding a decibel standard. The old noise ordinance did have specific decibel levels during the day and during the night, and police officers had to use equipment to measure the decibels. The rest of my post is my personal opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rsb320 Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 HPD arrested the owner of Boondocks on Westheimer due to noise. I think I read that in the Press. Lemecheck - http://blogs.houstonpress.com/rocks/2012/02/boondocks_owner_arrested_noise.php Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texasota Posted March 1, 2012 Share Posted March 1, 2012 Ugh, not that I much care for Boondocks, but that's ridiculous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kylejack Posted March 1, 2012 Share Posted March 1, 2012 I am not arguing with you regarding the new ordinance, I didn't even mention the new ordinance.Sure you did. Someone recommended that you use the draconian ordinance (which was recently passed). You said it wasn't draconian. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tumbleweed_Tx Posted March 1, 2012 Share Posted March 1, 2012 that wasn't Gertners, that was us... we had a duh step show that brought in the most ridiculous sound system. I felt like I was physically assaulted by the sound the ten minutes I had to sit out there (spl so high some frequencies literally choked me) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniepwils Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 Well I talked to him again on Friday, very nice guy. He thinks it was because all of the doors were open to the patio, he is only going to leave one set of doors open. It was much better Friday night, I am not sure about Saturday night because I took a sleeping pill because I had to be up at 7am on Sunday and didn't want to chance it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kylejack Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 (edited) I am not arguing with you regarding the new ordinance, I didn't even mention the new ordinance.I don't think [the noise ordinance] is draconian at all. Noise pollution is out of control. If anything it needs to be enforced more, and the fines should go up after numerous occurrences. Edited March 5, 2012 by kylejack 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniepwils Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 (edited) I never once mentioned the new ordinance in response to you, is what I meant. I am not trying to get in an argument with you so please do stop it already. I already stated the way I felt, please refer back to that statement... Edited March 6, 2012 by Daniepwils Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoustonMidtown Posted May 5, 2012 Share Posted May 5, 2012 (edited) House of Blues suing Houston Pavillions re: Scott Gertner's barhttp://blog.chron.co...ging-the-blues/http://houston.culturemap.com/newsdetail/05-04-12-drama-at-houston-pavilions-house-of-blues-sues-scott-gertner-and-pavilions/ Edited May 5, 2012 by HoustonMidtown Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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HoustonMidtown Posted June 11, 2013 Share Posted June 11, 2013 Scott Gertner' bar closed http://houston.culturemap.com/news/food/06-10-13-night-club-quietly-shutters-the-reimagined-houston-pavilions-loses-another-tenant/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chi-Char-Hou-Dal Posted June 12, 2013 Share Posted June 12, 2013 Who went? How did it compare to montrise one don't et nostalgic? Why did they close - seemed busy whenever I was at HP or Greeb street whatever Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
79ta Posted June 13, 2013 Share Posted June 13, 2013 Why did they close - seemed busy whenever I was at HP or Greeb street whatever http://houston.culturemap.com/news/food/06-10-13-night-club-quietly-shutters-the-reimagined-houston-pavilions-loses-another-tenant/ the article here says it closed because his bar didn't fit in to their long term plans. anyone know what direction the former pavillions is headed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Plumb Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 Strolled through there today and there is absolutely zero signs of any work,. Renderings and latest info: http://www.houstonchronicle.com/business/real-estate/article/Design-for-planned-downtown-hotel-gets-a-revision-6048121.php#/0 http://ww4.hdnux.com/photos/34/33/43/7452911/7/1366x1366.jpg http://www.downtowntirz.com/downtownhouston/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/alessandra.png 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chi-Char-Hou-Dal Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 +1 - get us excited and do nothing RUDE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfastx Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 I thought construction wasn't supposed to start until next year? Or am I mistaken. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kylejack Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 Strolled through there today and there is absolutely zero signs of any work,. Work requires permits. The permit process is slow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Plumb Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 Well I would think they would paint or redecorate or something in the interim to show that there's movement on the project. I am following this project closer because I think it could really have a huge impact on DT. But if they don't turn it inside out and put everything facing out to the streets on the street level I don't think it will work. It's my observation that women do not like to walk through the Pavillions because it is very enclosed. Which is understandable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Plumb Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 Acc to the HBJ article: "Construction will begin this month and is scheduled to take about six to nine months to complete. The project will remain open during construction." That was April 4th. So just looking at it from the street it appears the schedule has been pushed back. Already discouraging (to me.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swtsig Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 rumor has it that they are (or at least were) looking at adding a hotel-component. no idea where it would go. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scarface Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 swtsig. stop playing with people's emotions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Plumb Posted July 22, 2013 Share Posted July 22, 2013 Another month, still ZERO activity. I predict they are just going to build out for office space in the empty areas. There won't be any new retail or redevelopment. They know there isn't enough support for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatesdisastr Posted July 22, 2013 Share Posted July 22, 2013 I believe they stated last week that part of the reason they were doing away with the food trucks was because the redevelopment was starting up full swing. I think we should begin to see work being done relatively soon. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Plumb Posted July 22, 2013 Share Posted July 22, 2013 We'll see. Don't get me wrong I would LOVE for them to come out with a new and improved dt destination. I'm all for it. I would be there a lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houston19514 Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 Work is to begin at the end of August. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howard Huge Posted August 9, 2013 Share Posted August 9, 2013 Work is to begin at the end of August.Hopefully this is true.Perhaps they are taking their time because of all the new residential construction downtown? You know, waiting til theres a few thousand more DT residents to fininsh the redo? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howard Huge Posted August 9, 2013 Share Posted August 9, 2013 Work is to begin at the end of August.Will Editor let you copy and paste the entire article on HAIF? Its asking me for a chronicle subscription, I can only see the first few sentences. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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