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http://newyorkrealestate.citybizlist.com/yourcitybiznews/detail.aspx?id=95828

Scant on details about the plan, New York-based Coventry Development Corp. is poised to begin work on a mixed-use, sustainable project in North Houston.Details will be unveiled Oct. 5 in a one-hour web briefing, according to company officials. The developer did reveal that the development will be transit-oriented and include residential, retail, office, recreational and educational uses.

guessing something near the proposed intermodal transist station (or whatever its called).

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How far south does the North Houston Association extend? Their president will be there and I'm assuming he would not be supporting something not in his area. He said they support the north Harris and south Montgomery counties.

From the looks of their aerial map, it doesn't look like extends past West Rd. or thereabouts.

http://www.north-houston.com/publications/index.html

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XOM site

You think it's the Exxon site? Not THE site, but NEXT to it, right? Would Exxon really include retail and residential? I could see transit-oritented (sort-of) and educational uses, but not those others. I wouldn't mind being wrong though.

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Doesn't North Houston mean near IAH?

It goes from just south of the beltway all the way into Montgomery county. The link in post #3 has a map. But yeah, that does include IAH.

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This article calls this development a, "community" and adds a tiny bit more detail:

WHAT:Coventry Development Corporation and its planning strategists will be discussing the development of a new, sustainable residential and commercial community for North Houston. The development is being built as a mixed-use community, designed to integrate mass-transit, a wide variety of homes, and a mix of retail uses, offices, schools, parks and recreation - all within close proximity.

WHO:Keith Simon, SVP, Coventry Development CorporationCharlie Savino, Executive Vice President, CDS Market ResearchDr. Ray Perryman, President, The Perryman Group Jon Lindsay, President, North Houston Association

WHEN:10:00 a.m. – 11:00 a.m. CSTTuesday, October 5, 2010

WHERE:Virtual Web-Based Briefing

Please visit https://cc.readytalk.../r/ld5rxdr0hba7 to register for the briefing.

BRIEFING:Coventry executives and associated planning strategists will give the media an overview of the planned community including insights and graphics regarding usage, market research and forecasted economic impacts.

VISUALS:Slides of the presentation will be included in and available following the briefing; location maps, schematics and renderings of the development.

http://www.earthtime...on,1481753.html

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It goes from just south of the beltway all the way into Montgomery county. The link in post #3 has a map. But yeah, that does include IAH.

Then the Intermodal Terminal who't be anywhere near it.

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Cool! This will be huge if it happens. I think local developers will begin to take note and plan developments more like this (If its like the one in Colorado). Good to hear about new developments in the Houston area, how long has it been? Like 2-3 years since any major announcements being posted in the "going Up" section.

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Then the Intermodal Terminal who't be anywhere near it.

Well if it's going to be "way up there" I wonder how they'll integrate mass transit.

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$1000 says it's waay north of downtown... maybe past the woodlands... easily.

And by transit oriented they mean access to a future toll road. And you'd have to drive to get to anywhere. Ugh.

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$1000 says it's waay north of downtown... maybe past the woodlands... easily.

And by transit oriented they mean access to a future toll road. And you'd have to drive to get to anywhere. Ugh.

Past The Woodlands?! Lolz

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I signed up to be part of the announcment tomorrow, recieved a confirmation and then got another email this morning saying my request to register was declined :( Also, the subject heading in the email reads, "Development announcment for North Houston by Coventry Development Corporation." Not sure if anything can be gained by reading into that, but just thought it was interesting wording.

Someone in Nancy's blog said Coventry has owned property near Exxon's site for a very long time. I guess they're just capitalizing on Exxon's move.

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Someone in Nancy's blog said Coventry has owned property near Exxon's site for a very long time. I guess they're just capitalizing on Exxon's move.

Coventry owns the would-be XOM site.

Whether they have XOM buy-in or not, frankly, now is the time to develop it, before Spring's reputation worsens any further.

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Coventry owns the would-be XOM site.

Whether they have XOM buy-in or not, frankly, now is the time to develop it, before Spring's reputation worsens any further.

Nancy Sarnoff said she might tweet about it during the presentation if anyone wants to know. It starts at 10am today. http://twitter.com/nsarnoff

edit: also, a little more info from an article earlier this year

While it could be some time before Exxon Mobil reveals its plans, a 1,400-acre tract west of I-45 and the Hardy Toll Road </STRONG></SPAN>is being prepped for development. An improvement district approved by the Texas Legislature has been created to build and finance utilities and roads to serve the property west of I-45.

Allen Boone Humphries Robinson LLP was hired by Springwoods Realty Co., an entity related to land owner Coventry Development Corp. of New York to create an improvement district on the large parcel.

One of the PDR documents shows plans for additional development south of the likely Exxon Mobil site and north of the proposed Grand Parkway.

They include a town center, medical facility, commercial space, apartments and single-family homes.

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/business/energy/6841225.html

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Nancy's live tweets:

1st one:

Coventry Development Corp. announcing Springwoods Village near The Woodlands

2nd one:

At buildout, Springwood will have 35k employees, 15k residents, 8M sf of office, 1.2M sf of retail and 5k residential units, company says.

3rd one:

Springwoods web site now up: http://www.springwoodsvillage.com/

Location:

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http://www.springwoo...context_map.cfm

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I got to view the webinar. It seems to me that this will be Houston's newest edge city. I can't say that this is really a good thing. They also tout that this is infill. I don't quite by that. They are also banking on the northline light rail being extended out there, I think that is an inappropriate mode for such a far out local. Commuter rail would be the best option. All in all the development could be much worse, however what makes this "less" sustainable in my eyes is the far flung location, the constant chatter about the Grand Parkway (let's face it, that doesn't qualify this development as transit oriented), and the lack of transit to be with, it also appears to be rather insular. Anyway, it could be worse, but I'm not sure that that makes it good.

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Construction of Springwoods Village is targeted to begin in the second quarter of 2011. Over the next several years, 4,500 – 5,000 homes are expected to be built in addition to 8.5 million square feet of commercial office space and 1.2 million square feet of retail space. The entire development of the community is planned to take 15-20 years for completion.

http://www.springwoodsvillage.com/repository//Documents/CoventryDevSpringwoodsVill%20PressRelease.pdf

I guess if they follow The Woodlands model, the town center and urban area will be the last to come on board, but I hope I'm wrong. Maybe it will be the office buildings along the freeway.

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Outstanding! And this doesn't even include the millions of square feet of potential XOM will be building. As far as the 'farflung' location, people need to get over it. This is not some small midwestern city. It's Houston, TX...the 4th largest city in the country. Montgomery County is one of the fastest growing counties in the country. Why doesn't it make sense to build here? It's close to the airport, 30 min drive downtown, 5 min. to The Woodlands town center. What are the drawbacks? The Woodlands is BOOMING. Montgomery County is BOOMING. I think commuter rail will eventually make it's way up this way which will also help the area. The Woodlands continues to grow, Houston continues to grow and with the location of Exxon-Mobile and other major corporations in and around The Woodlands, this will be a great place to call home. What an outstanding project!

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I love how developers now just fling a "green" or "sustainable" development tag line on anything now. How in the world is paving over a pine forest green? How is building 5,000 mostly single family suburban style housing units outside Beltway 8 sustainable? Yeah, I know, they're leaving a "park" next to the creek...

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more pictures. http://www.designwor...ds-village.html

Not developing is sustainable. But, the world we live in, developers will build where people want to live. So while cutting down trees might not be sustainable, they're going to build anyway, so what they DO build, will be sustainable. I think we all know that.

If you look at it closely, they are doing some really nice things. I think the breeze corridors are such a great idea in and of themselves!!! Isn't that the kind of thing developers used to consider???

This could also become possibly a more desirable place to live than The Woodlands, in some respects. If you moved there from TW, you could be closer to home by as much as 30 minutes. The access to the airport awesome. And if people want to reverse commute, this is the perfect place to work as getting on Hardy going in the opposite direction is like a Sunday Morning drive in the 1990s.

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Looks nice, but I wish some development like this took place closer in. Don't really see the point of the "mass transit center" when it's so far out, people aren't going to be using mass transit way out there, and I don't know of any plans to build it.

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I agree... it seems to be yet another cliche development.

hardly

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Looks nice, but I wish some development like this took place closer in. Don't really see the point of the "mass transit center" when it's so far out, people aren't going to be using mass transit way out there, and I don't know of any plans to build it.

Not everybody lives within 2 miles of downtown. Go back to your small town. If it was WAYYYYYY out, people wouldn't live there. Clearly you have not seen how full The Woodlands Express busses are in the morning times. Clearly you have not seen how jammed 45 is during the morning and afternoon commutes in north Harris County or south Montgomery County. If it was WAYYYY out, why is The Woodlands so prosperous? If it was WAYYYY far out, why is Montgomery County one of the fastest growing counties in the nation? Funny, nobody ever says a word about "Sugar Land" <nose in the air> or Kingwood.

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It CAN be transit oriented if they got on board rather quickly.

once an office complex or two was built, along with a few neighborhoods, a nice little BRT could run between there and TW, but they have to commit quite early to something along those lines.

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Not everybody lives within 2 miles of downtown. Go back to your small town. If it was WAYYYYYY out, people wouldn't live there. Clearly you have not seen how full The Woodlands Express busses are in the morning times. Clearly you have not seen how jammed 45 is during the morning and afternoon commutes in north Harris County or south Montgomery County. If it was WAYYYY out, why is The Woodlands so prosperous? If it was WAYYYY far out, why is Montgomery County one of the fastest growing counties in the nation? Funny, nobody ever says a word about "Sugar Land" <nose in the air> or Kingwood.

eeeaaaaaasy big fella. I don't think he's opposed as much as you think he is.

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Not everybody lives within 2 miles of downtown. Go back to your small town. If it was WAYYYYYY out, people wouldn't live there. Clearly you have not seen how full The Woodlands Express busses are in the morning times. Clearly you have not seen how jammed 45 is during the morning and afternoon commutes in north Harris County or south Montgomery County. If it was WAYYYY out, why is The Woodlands so prosperous? If it was WAYYYY far out, why is Montgomery County one of the fastest growing counties in the nation? Funny, nobody ever says a word about "Sugar Land" <nose in the air> or Kingwood.

Clam down wxman. I tend to agree with him. It is a little far out... and I'm unsure 45 being "jam packed" is a good thing... perhaps those drivers should be polled?

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It is a little far out...

That's what Los Angeles said.

Being too far out will never deter people, so I think we should just get over suburban development. Fact of life. If it's gonna happen, it might as well be something of quality like this.

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The media picks and chooses what to reveal. Here are some things I didn't notice at chron.com or swamplot.

Coventry expects to begin infrastructure work on the project during the second quarter of 2011. The process will take two years and cost $100 million.
Coventry will sell land tracts to outside developers who will construct office buildings, hotels, retail centers and residences. Roughly 90 percent of the improvements will be built by outside companies, but Coventry may chose to develop the town center in-house.

Read more: Coventry sets new master-planned development - Houston Business Journal

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Not everybody lives within 2 miles of downtown. Go back to your small town. If it was WAYYYYYY out, people wouldn't live there. Clearly you have not seen how full The Woodlands Express busses are in the morning times. Clearly you have not seen how jammed 45 is during the morning and afternoon commutes in north Harris County or south Montgomery County. If it was WAYYYY out, why is The Woodlands so prosperous? If it was WAYYYY far out, why is Montgomery County one of the fastest growing counties in the nation? Funny, nobody ever says a word about "Sugar Land" <nose in the air> or Kingwood.

Calm down, man. I think it's a nice development, and I am 100% for it. I was just saying that I also wish something like this would get built just north of downtown, that area need help. The area that this is being built in is nice enough already. Another reason I think these types of development should get built closer in is to promote growth in the city center, as opposed to massive sprawl. Urban sprawl lengthens commutes. The reason 45 is so jammed in the morning is because of urban sprawl. So I will stay in my "small town" that is the 4th largest city in the US. :rolleyes:

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Coventry owns the would-be XOM site.

Whether they have XOM buy-in or not, frankly, now is the time to develop it, before Spring's reputation worsens any further.

Uh, no, Coventry doesn't own the would be XOM site.

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Where is the XOM site exactly? According to the rendering of Springwoods, there is no room for it on the west side of 45...not until you get south of what...2920?

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Where is the XOM site exactly? According to the rendering of Springwoods, there is no room for it on the west side of 45...not until you get south of what...2920?

The aerial map of Springwoods with the red outline, I think, includes the XOM site. That's why some, like Niche and swamplot, think that this development could be part of or at least next to XOM.

The XOM site has always been described as the area just west of 45/hardy.

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it would stand to reason that coventry would be necessary to get the infrastructure in place before xom. xom's promise to move to the development could conceivably be a factor in the development getting off the ground.

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Uh, no, Coventry doesn't own the would be XOM site.

I stand corrected. What I was thinking (but apparently was unable to form into coherent words) was that it'd be an integral component of this development.

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there IS quite a bit of land immediately north of the development, between the river and the main road into springwoods, east of the holzworth extension and west of i-45. looking at a google map of the woodlands, would the holzworth extension connect with budde road or sawmill, i wonder?

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Not everybody lives within 2 miles of downtown. Go back to your small town. If it was WAYYYYYY out, people wouldn't live there. Clearly you have not seen how full The Woodlands Express busses are in the morning times. Clearly you have not seen how jammed 45 is during the morning and afternoon commutes in north Harris County or south Montgomery County. If it was WAYYYY out, why is The Woodlands so prosperous? If it was WAYYYY far out, why is Montgomery County one of the fastest growing counties in the nation? Funny, nobody ever says a word about "Sugar Land" <nose in the air> or Kingwood.

Sugar Land and Kingwood are no where near as far out as The Woodlands is.

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Sugar Land and Kingwood are no where near as far out as The Woodlands is.

The Woodlands and Kingwood are each just opposite the county line from Harris County.

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The Woodlands and Kingwood are each just opposite the county line from Harris County.

What are you saying? Kingwood is just as far out. Ignorance....

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That's really funny considering The Woodlands straddles the county line. Ignorance is bliss....

It must be! I was verbally attacked by an aspiring child psychologist today for being overly analytical and using big words. Clearly she would know the true path to happiness, and mine isn't it.

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Well it seems like West Houston boomed during the last decade, I guess it's North Houston's turn.

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Well if you're going to build suburbs, might as well do it right. This project looks great, and I'm happy about the parks & paths. We'll see how the bridges turn out in the end. I'm hoping they'll keep a lot of trees. Every time a new development clears those tall pines, It hurt's a little on the inside. Go Spring!

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Well if you're going to build suburbs, might as well do it right. This project looks great, and I'm happy about the parks & paths. We'll see how the bridges turn out in the end. I'm hoping they'll keep a lot of trees. Every time a new development clears those tall pines, It hurt's a little on the inside. Go Spring!

yes!.........and the connection to the spring creek greenway project is an added bonus. http://www.springcreekgreenway.org/Spring%20Creek%20Greenway%20Gateway%20Parks%20Map%20-%20March%202009.pdf

the nature preserve at springwoods is connected to a 12000 acre preservation/recreation greenbelt between tomball and kingwood.

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