TexasVines Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 Of course it's not the ONLY place to live... but it is a BETTER place. only because it is closer to montrose Poor kids and rich kids alike mix at schools like Lamar, and everything turns out okay. poor is not a race....you mentioned racism specifically....and that is but ONE school of many Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kylejack Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 But it is snobbery when you say "the best ______" is inside the loop and then admit you won't even try anything outside the loop.That would be one of the ones you took too literally.poor is not a race....you mentioned racism specificallyNo, no I didn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sevfiv Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 I think some statements of preference are coming across as directives. It is also silly to make blanket statements about other people's (strangers, at that) lifestyles. *yawn* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasVines Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 No, no I didn't.the person I was responding to and quoted mentioned racism....if you are going to wade into their arguement then wade all the way in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skyphen Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 well has it ever occurred to you that not all parents or kids desire to go to a magnet school....because some people GASP just have regular kids that have no idea what they want to be in life when they are 14-15 years old or they have no desire to be ONLY that and just want to go to a normal local NEAR BY high school with an overall quality education....and possibly....I am about to say it....play on sports teams as welland possibly some parents don't desire to be a part of thinly veiled acceptance of poor performance by sending their kids to a magnet school that is designed to cover up for the overall poor performance of the school it is attached to or to be a part of overt racism that seems to think that some students can't, won't, or shouldn't be held to the same standards of education solely because of the color of their skin you claim racism like so many others...but when one looks at the stats a HUGE number of inner city schools are HORRIBLE.....and filled with crime, gangs, teen pregnancy, high dropout rates, and drugs...it is not exclusive to them, but who in the hell would CHOOSE that just to sooth the feelings of a few dolts on this forum.....you seem to be the one caught up on the race of those poor performing parents and their poor performing chilwren.....maybe you are the racist.....if schools with huge numbers of gangs, non English speaking students, violence, drugs, and pregnant students were performing at least EQUAL to or above grade level and had the same or lower drop out rates then possibly your race baiting MIGHT hold water because then one could wonder why parents choose to avoid better performing schools (other than the gangs, drugs and safety of course )......but you the racist seems to feel that kids performing at a much lower level (and again all the other social issues) is acceptable as long as one can use skin color as an excuse....who is REALLY the racist....and a few magnet schools tossed about here and there is just pandering that only fools and closet race baiters and racial excuse makers (the real racist) find acceptable the ship channel can't be located inside the loop, or nasa, or petrochemical plants, or every large office building....nor can the people that serve all those things....which means only a total and complete FOOL would think that inside the loop is the ONLY place to live Great debating skills you have there. I hope you feel better after directing your second rant to me. Maybe it's time for a nappy-nap? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasVines Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 huh.gifGreat debating skills you have there. I hope you feel better after directing your second rant to me. Maybe it's time for a nappy-nap? lets be honest how could someone possibly win a "debate" with someone that is so skilled they toss out the race card in the debate.....we all know the bleating of those that cry racism is the end all winning argument of any debate.....well done you should be proud of what you have "accomplished" and all it has "helped" woo these many years......we should get you a statue next to tawana sharpton and reverend funbaby jackson you are right all parents should just ignore the quality of schools they send their kids to or the overall performance of the schools because this whole "grading" thing has lead this country down the gutter and proper English and math skills are so over rated in society anyway I mean really who can argue for caring about a kids education.....look how much better off those people and areas that care nothing about it are......they get free government lunches, welfare, section 8, reduced utilities, WIC, AFDC, and some are even so lucky they get to go to a place where they are told what to do for 23 hours out of 24 in a day while they get free food and TV......I can see YOU HAVE A DREAM! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skyphen Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 lets be honest how could someone possibly win a "debate" with someone that is so skilled they toss out the race card in the debate.....we all know the bleating of those that cry racism is the end all winning argument of any debate.....well done you should be proud of what you have "accomplished" and all it has "helped" woo these many years......we should get you a statue next to tawana sharpton and reverend funbaby jacksonyou are right all parents should just ignore the quality of schools they send their kids to or the overall performance of the schools because this whole "grading" thing has lead this country down the gutter and proper English and math skills are so over rated in society anyway I mean really who can argue for caring about a kids education.....look how much better off those people and areas that care nothing about it are......they get free government lunches, welfare, section 8, reduced utilities, WIC, AFDC, and some are even so lucky they get to go to a place where they are told what to do for 23 hours out of 24 in a day while they get free food and TV......I can see YOU HAVE A DREAM! I'm not debating you specifically because you didn't even read my posts. You read what you wanted into them and continue to put words into my mouth that I did not say. As for the racism, I believe it was you who wrote "chiwen axe for foo" or something to that effect. Yeah, not racist at all, you. Give me a break. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
20thStDad Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 AAA (starter of this thread) is a master prankster...I guess they knew this would spark endless circles of "debate", so they just posted and ran to watch the fire burn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasVines Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 I'm not debating you specifically because you didn't even read my posts. You read what you wanted into them and continue to put words into my mouth that I did not say. As for the racism, I believe it was you who wrote "chiwen axe for foo" or something to that effect. Yeah, not racist at all, you. Give me a break. what does mocking people for not speaking proper English have to do with race....unless one feels color of skin is an acceptable excuse for it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skyphen Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 On second thought, thanks for reminding me of why I live ITL! You pretty much prove my point with your mindless ranting. You obviously have an axe to grind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HtownWxBoy Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 only because it is closer to montrose You got that right! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
musicman Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 You got that right! easier to pick up that trick! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasVines Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 On second thought, thanks for reminding me of why I live ITL! You pretty much prove my point with your mindless ranting. You obviously have an axe to grind. so you can sit around and look down on people that shop at walmart, care about education, and don't use race as an excuse for things.....nice easier to pick up that trick! how snobbish of you to look down on that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sevfiv Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 These little arguments can be taken to PMs...And also, folks from all over drive to Wal-Mart, care about education, and don't use racism as an excuse for things. Let's not geographically generalize these things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HtownWxBoy Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 easier to pick up that trick! Very true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasVines Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 These little arguments can be taken to PMs...And also, folks from all over drive to Wal-Mart, care about education, and don't use racism as an excuse for things. Let's not geographically generalize these things.but according to many in this thread and all the others like it only suburban peopleGo to ChurchUse racism as an excuse for where they liveUse racism as an excuse for picking schoolsAre homophobesAre scared of minoritiesClosed mindedBoringOverbearing parentsVoid of any taste in foodWasteful of all the earths resourcesWhiteSpend long hours driving to workOver spend and live beyond their meansAll do exactly the same thingsLive in boring cookie cutter housesLive in fear of the world around themKnow nothing of "diversity"Can't use generalizations of those in the inner loopand on and on... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sevfiv Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 And they're wrong - most people are like that but according to many in this thread and all the others like it only suburban peopleGo to Church Use racism as an excuse for where they live Use racism as an excuse for picking schools Are homophobes Are scared of minorities Closed minded Boring Overbearing parents Void of any taste in food Wasteful of all the earths resources White Spend long hours driving to work Over spend and live beyond their means All do exactly the same things Live in boring cookie cutter houses Live in fear of the world around them Know nothing of "diversity" Can't use generalizations of those in the inner loop and on and on... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
houstonmacbro Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 And they're wrong - most people are like that I am few of those things and live in the suburbs. Man, there is just a mess of people's opinions about suburbanites. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BryanS Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 Poor kids and rich kids alike mix at schools like Lamar, and everything turns out okay.It's not about rich kids, and poor kids. It's about kids and school districts that PERFORM. On total, HISD does not perform as compared to other, much better districts, outside of the city. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kylejack Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 It's not about rich kids, and poor kids. It's about kids and school districts that PERFORM. On total, HISD does not perform as compared to other, much better districts, outside of the city.Yeah, well so what? There are good schools and bad schools in HISD. Your child is not educated based on an average of different schools in HISD, but rather on the quality of the actual high school they attend (among other factors). Just live in the territory of one of the good schools (like Lamar, for example). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fringe Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 Yeah, well so what? There are good schools and bad schools in HISD. Your child is not educated based on an average of different schools in HISD, but rather on the quality of the actual high school they attend (among other factors). Just live in the territory of one of the good schools (like Lamar, for example).Yeah! Just live in River Oaks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kylejack Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 Yeah! Just live in River Oaks! Its really kind of ridiculous how people keep sniping the last post in the thread. As I stated earlier, there are students from a variety of socioeconomic levels attending Lamar. Read the thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedScare Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 but according to many in this thread and all the others like it only suburban peopleGo to ChurchUse racism as an excuse for where they liveUse racism as an excuse for picking schoolsAre homophobesAre scared of minoritiesClosed mindedBoringOverbearing parentsVoid of any taste in foodWasteful of all the earths resourcesWhiteSpend long hours driving to workOver spend and live beyond their meansAll do exactly the same thingsLive in boring cookie cutter housesLive in fear of the world around themKnow nothing of "diversity"Can't use generalizations of those in the inner loopand on and on...Yeah, that pretty much covers it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasVines Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 Its really kind of ridiculous how people keep sniping the last post in the thread. As I stated earlier, there are students from a variety of socioeconomic levels attending Lamar. Read the thread.and perhaps you completely missed where Lamar is not just a regular neighborhood high school......it is yet another school that had to be dressed up and and make "special" just to even get anyone to go there......many parents and or their children may not desire an IB education and a school dress code for a number of reasons......they may just want their kids to go to the nearest school that offers the same type of safe, quality, American, high school education that worked so well for the USA until we started dropping standards for some and listening to PC fools.....if possible I am sure many parents looked at the "regular" offerings of Lamar and found them to be less than desirable and decided wisely to take their kids elsewhere as to not play a part in the numbers stats games that HISD plays with education....Lamar is just another magnet school by a different name using window dressing to try and cover overall poor performance by HISD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kylejack Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 and perhaps you completely missed where Lamar is not just a regular neighborhood high school......it is yet another school that had to be dressed up and and make "special" just to even get anyone to go there......many parents and or their children may not desire an IB education and a school dress code for a number of reasons......they may just want their kids to go to the nearest school that offers the same type of safe, quality, American, high school education that worked so well for the USA until we started dropping standards for some and listening to PC fools.....if possible I am sure many parents looked at the "regular" offerings of Lamar and found them to be less than desirable and decided wisely to take their kids elsewhere as to not play a part in the numbers stats games that HISD plays with education....Lamar is just another magnet school by a different name using window dressing to try and cover overall poor performance by HISDLamar is a truly diverse high school. 41% of students on reduced fee lunch program. Not really sure what you have against uniforms? The school has good scores and a lot of different programs that students can participate in. What is it that you think people found less than desirable about Lamar, specifically? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
musicman Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 Lamar is a truly diverse high school. 41% of students on reduced fee lunch program. interesting conclusion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fringe Posted January 7, 2009 Share Posted January 7, 2009 Lamar is a truly diverse high school. 41% of students on reduced fee lunch program. Not really sure what you have against uniforms? The school has good scores and a lot of different programs that students can participate in. What is it that you think people found less than desirable about Lamar, specifically?Your still just singling out specific high schools in HISD. As big of a district as HISD has, I’m sure there are a few good schools but overall it sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedScare Posted January 7, 2009 Share Posted January 7, 2009 Your still just singling out specific high schools in HISD. As big of a district as HISD has, I Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sarahiki Posted January 7, 2009 Share Posted January 7, 2009 Your still just singling out specific high schools in HISD. As big of a district as HISD has, I Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VicMan Posted January 7, 2009 Share Posted January 7, 2009 It's true that you can get a good education in HISD--if you're rich, or lucky. I've been spending a lot of time looking at HISD elementary schools lately, and the goods ones are:1. in places where I can't afford a home2. magnet schools, which are increasingly difficult to get a spot in. Roberts, for example, will take approximately 10 kids from outside their zone this year. Probably 200 will apply. So yes, there are good schools. But for anyone to blithely say that parents can live in Houston and just "find a good magnet school" are dreaming.Technically HISD covers a portion of Houston - there are parts in other districts as well (Alief, Aldine, North Forest, etc.). Likewise there are other cities and some unincorporated areas in HISD.As for food, etc. I live inside the Loop and mostly go out to eat there, but sometimes I get food outside the Beltway because it is very good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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