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Lower Westheimer traffic Corridor Study

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Www.houstontx.gov/ planning/transportation/CMP/lowerWestheimer/

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I think Avondale Civic is hosting another presentation at their May 4 business meeting upstairs at The Womens home 7 pm

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Very interesting.  It looks like only a small amount of ROW acquisition would be needed and a fair amount of parking would be added.  While the net number of bus stops has only decreased slightly, they've all been moved to make them just past the intersections (in a dedicated pull-off) rather than just before, so they don't block right turns on red.

 

Yes, Westheimer loses a lane in each direction, but that lane is virtually unusable at present because the right half of the right lane as it is now can't handle cars (only trucks) due to potholes, and bigger vehicles can't stay in a lane the way it is now (because the lanes are narrow and Houston drivers are incompetent) making the lane next to them almost useless anyway.

 

I like this.  The new sidewalks will be HUGE, which is a big improvement compared to the narrow/nonexistent sidewalks right now, and for such a walkable area, that's important.

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So the second of westheimer between Waugh and Commonwealth (example map) will be one travel lane in each direction with a separate "pickup lane" for buses near bus stops)?  Am I reading that correctly?

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The drawings of the proposals run from Main to Shepherd, however, the CIP money ( already designated) that will fund the proposed improvements will probably only include Westheimer from Bagby to Montrose.

 

For myself, I am contacting the site and explaining that I don't want on street parking on that part of Westheimer---- I have faced plenty of snarlups with on street  parking down by the Empire cafe. I think a better alternative is the pull in parking on designated side streets.

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This all looks good.  They seem to be following how I drive down Westheimer - treating it as being one lane with left turn lanes (people stop in the left lane to turn, I go around them, but usually stay in the left hand lane because the right hand lane is awful)

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One statement at the presentation that left me sort of gobsmacked.

route 82 the Westheimer route has the largest ridership those buses are 10.7 feet wide not including the side view mirrors and how wide are the lanes on that part of Westheimer? 11 feet. So all the movers and shakers at Metro and COH couldn't project those two measurements might lead to dangerous traffic situations?

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4 hours ago, trymahjong said:

One statement at the presentation that left me sort of gobsmacked.

route 82 the Westheimer route has the largest ridership those buses are 10.7 feet wide not including the side view mirrors and how wide are the lanes on that part of Westheimer? 11 feet. So all the movers and shakers at Metro and COH couldn't project those two measurements might lead to dangerous traffic situations?

 

What kind of buses are they using that are 10.7 feet wide???  That seems unlikely.

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These changes are awesome! I have to hand it to the city on this one. It makes me even more excited for the changes on West Alabama. 

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4 hours ago, Houston19514 said:

 

That's what I thought.  I doubt anyone is building city buses that are 10.7 feet wide.

 

it doesnt matter if they are 8 or 10 feet wide....most seem to drive like they are 15 fee wide and take up two lanes OFTEN...especially at the curve etc...

i hate that they do that so i always try to steer clear of any buses on westheimer! 

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Sorry 

I was relating what someone at COH told me- I guess I wasn't skeptical since I've experienced quite a few times of the Metro bus being so close when I drive beside it that I get  "pushed" over the centerline into oncoming traffic- I learned my lesson and now NEVER drive side by side on that part of Westheimer.

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COH did a brief presentation at the Neartown Meeting. 

Biggest discussion was need for lighting to be lower, live oak and pin oak trees are not options that residents want, and parallel parking on westheimer that might or might not have parking meters.

 

the On street parking by the clothing resale apparently is given a by but the parallel parking in the 300 block met with a negative reaction. Instead many suggested that space be used for cafe tables chairs and planters. Pull in parking on side streets was also suggested as an alternative.

 

Also so learned that COH is actively seeking new businesses for that part of Westheimer that would put the storefront directly by street with parking behind.

 

public feedback is still being sought. Lowerwestheimerstudy.org

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They must have found my old posts on here from 2013 :) . I've been arguing for this design for a long time and am glad to see it coming

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On 4/25/2017 at 3:49 PM, gene said:

 

it doesnt matter if they are 8 or 10 feet wide....most seem to drive like they are 15 fee wide and take up two lanes OFTEN...especially at the curve etc...

i hate that they do that so i always try to steer clear of any buses on westheimer! 

I think part of the reason is that they, the bus drivers, are trying to maneuver over the cracked and potholed outer lanes on lower Westheimer. They also tend to drive a little too fast for that stretch of road. Once Westheimer goes to two lanes and the road is repaired (and instruct the drivers to slow down at curves), things will improve vastly!

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4 hours ago, dguet said:

That has to be the worst computer graphics presentation that I have seen in a very long time.  The 1990s are back on your Pentium PC.   Literally the "car" drives through tree branches at 20' and otherwise spends the entire time driving down the wrong side of the street.  Really.  Quite.  Miserable.

 

 

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On 5/14/2017 at 4:20 PM, UtterlyUrban said:

That has to be the worst computer graphics presentation that I have seen in a very long time.  The 1990s are back on your Pentium PC.   Literally the "car" drives through tree branches at 20' and otherwise spends the entire time driving down the wrong side of the street.  Really.  Quite.  Miserable.

 

 

It's just a rough animatic. What were you expecting Pixar?

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19 minutes ago, j_cuevas713 said:

It's just a rough animatic. What were you expecting Pixar?

I wasn't "expecting" anything.  And clearly, neither were the folks made this.

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On 5/14/2017 at 4:20 PM, UtterlyUrban said:

That has to be the worst computer graphics presentation that I have seen in a very long time.  The 1990s are back on your Pentium PC.   Literally the "car" drives through tree branches at 20' and otherwise spends the entire time driving down the wrong side of the street.  Really.  Quite.  Miserable.

 

 

 

Drivers through tree branches? Driving down the wrong side of the road? Must be playing GTA.

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Deadline for public input is May 31--

www.lowerwestheimerstudy.org

 

seems a lot of discussion on MontroseNextDoor site with worries over 4 lanes reduced to 2.

 

In my neighborhood metered street parking on Westheimer in front of Numbers gets gets residents angry but the idea of using that space for planters and cafe tables and chairs gets them laughing.

 

biggest thing I guess is that money that is available is only for basic improvements-- none of the pretty stuff like planters or lights.

 

The lighting part I guess could be configured by Centerpoint to add lower lights to existing light poles as has been done downtown......but will Centerpoint do it? I hope so-- from the PIP stats 2017  spring two rapes have occurred in 400 block Westheimer. Extra lighting might be a good thing to try.

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