KinkaidAlum Posted March 4, 2013 Share Posted March 4, 2013 Since when does Montrose have terrible parking issues? Some of you folks need to travel a bit. Parking in Houston is still very, very easy. The only problems with parking in this town are for two reasons; 1) People are lazy and wont walk more than 13 feet.2) People are entitled and think no one should ever be parked in front of their house. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marksmu Posted March 4, 2013 Share Posted March 4, 2013 Since when does Montrose have terrible parking issues? Some of you folks need to travel a bit. Parking in Houston is still very, very easy. The only problems with parking in this town are for two reasons; 1) People are lazy and wont walk more than 13 feet.2) People are entitled and think no one should ever be parked in front of their house. 3) The street is only 16 feet wide, and its not possible to back out of your driveway if another car is parked behind it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kylejack Posted March 4, 2013 Share Posted March 4, 2013 Not in that big old truck you're always boasting about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marksmu Posted March 4, 2013 Share Posted March 4, 2013 So you don't want the area dry, but you want to make sure bars don't move in... and that isn't trying to tell people to do with their property how? The number of loud motorcycles pales in comparison to the number of loud tow trucks, big trucks with exhaust, import "sporty" cars with coffee can sized exhaust tips, and people blasting spanish polka that drive by my house... I think your disdain for motorcycles might be trickling over from your disdain for bicyclist... You must have a completely flat driveway to be able to push such a huge truck. (I could barely push a shopping cart out of my driveway.) My driveway slants towards the street the whole way...its all paved But that truck, though heavy, is very easy to roll...especially slightly downhill. On topic though - I dont much prefer for the late night folks to be mixed into neighborhoods...but without zoning there is nothing to prevent it. So - While I am against most restrictions to property in general, I am actually not against reasonable restrictions that are intended to keep a residential area residential....though even that argument is not very good here when referring to the area in question...its actually a perfect area for commercial/restaurant/bar, etc...that is if they can keep their cars out of the neighborhood...just like the historic ordinance - I was against that, but I am for establishing minimum lot sizes... I don't think a neighborhood should have to be inconvenienced with a bunch of cars parked on their street all the time so that some bar owner does not have to pay to buy sufficient parking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marksmu Posted March 4, 2013 Share Posted March 4, 2013 Not in that big old truck you're always boasting about. I fell off the driveway in my truck one time...it was an ordeal....My truck needs quite a bit more area to turn...so getting in/out of my driveway is indeed impossible in my truck if someone parks behind my driveway. I can do it in my wife's car, but it is actually physically impossible in my truck....Its more than just an inconvenience when someone blocks you in your driveway....Ive been tempted to just put in 4wd and back them off into the ditch, but alas I'm a reasonable person. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverJK Posted March 4, 2013 Share Posted March 4, 2013 My vespa needs little to no room to turn... neither do those loud evil motorcycles... they also don't take up much parking.... so an Ice House would be ideal! Any updates on Torchy's or Coltivare? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kylejack Posted March 4, 2013 Share Posted March 4, 2013 Torchy's and the Heights are the best possible fit, and I mean that in the worst possible way. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s3mh Posted March 4, 2013 Share Posted March 4, 2013 Any updates on Coltivare? They are saying summer opening:http://revivalmarket.com/coltivare-preview-dinner/Building is gutted and ready for build out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedScare Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 Since when does Montrose have terrible parking issues? Some of you folks need to travel a bit. Parking in Houston is still very, very easy. The only problems with parking in this town are for two reasons; 1) People are lazy and wont walk more than 13 feet.2) People are entitled and think no one should ever be parked in front of their house. Kinkaid... Consider the source of the comment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fwki Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 I'm changing my nick to SlumAlum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
callisthenes Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 I don't think a neighborhood should have to be inconvenienced with a bunch of cars parked on their street all the time so that some bar owner does not have to pay to buy sufficient parking. Not sure what the Historical District’s restrictions are on those parking lots. I suppose if Victorian homes are razed to make way for the lots, they would have to be paved with cobblestones and have Victorian-era hitching posts along the perimeter. If it’s Craftsman style homes removed to make way, maybe Prairie style fencing and concrete or tarmac paving with era-appropriate gravel. No painted lines designating spaces on either one, unless it’s era appropriate lead based. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s3mh Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 Kinkaid... Consider the source of the comment. Of course, when you resort to your childish insults, it just means that I am spot on. The revision to the parking lot ordinance is coming from all the people in Mayor Parker's neighborhood in Montrose complaining about all the parking overflow from Westheimer. I went to Poscol a few weeks ago and had to park a block away from S. Alabama. It doesn't bother me that I had to walk a few blocks to get to the restaurant. But, it does bother the residents that people will frequently block their driveways, barf on their lawns as 2:30 am and get into horn honking fights with other drivers over parking spaces at 10:30 pm on Friday night in their neighborhood. They are the ones complaining about the parking issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kylejack Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 Blocking driveways is illegal and tow trucks are happy to oblige. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marksmu Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 Blocking driveways is illegal and tow trucks are happy to oblige. But are they considered blocking the driveway when they are just legally parked behind it on a very narrow street? I have wondered this question for a very long time. My particular street has ditches (some dont) and the ditch starts at most 6 inches from the white line on the road, so even running off in the grass is not feasible. MOST vehicles can easily navigate in/out of the driveway - but I can not. The turning radius on my truck is too wide and the driveway, though wide, is not wide enough to turn a truck around in. That said - I have no restaurants on my street so its only an occasional problem when a neighbor has a party, or there is construction on a house. I would go out of my mind crazy if a bar/restaurant opened up that did not have enough parking, and the cars going to/from the restaurant made it impossible for me to get in my driveway. If it happened daily I would be the type to invest in a tow dolly and move the offending parker a block or ten away....Is that considered stealing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
august948 Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 I would go out of my mind crazy if a bar/restaurant opened up that did not have enough parking, and the cars going to/from the restaurant made it impossible for me to get in my driveway. If it happened daily I would be the type to invest in a tow dolly and move the offending parker a block or ten away....Is that considered stealing?Why not just park there yourself on the busy days? I had a problem with folks parking in front of my house and blocking the mailbox. When I did't get any mail for a few days I called the Post Office and was told that the mailman doesn't have to deliver the mail if your mailbox is blocked. After that, I started leaving my garbage can at the curb for a while and people got the hint. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kylejack Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 I think that some narrow streets either have their street parking suspended entirely, or only allow it on one side of the street. That, or even certain streets that require a resident tag seem fine to me. Better than putting the onus on the businesses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marksmu Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 Why not just park there yourself on the busy days? I had a problem with folks parking in front of my house and blocking the mailbox. When I did't get any mail for a few days I called the Post Office and was told that the mailman doesn't have to deliver the mail if your mailbox is blocked. After that, I started leaving my garbage can at the curb for a while and people got the hint. I normally don't have a problem, but I have no bar/restaurant on my street....as to me parking there - I don't park on the street ever. I keep far too much in truck to ever park it on the street overnight in the Heights....the car breaks in are rampant and occur every night. I have not had my car broken into in my driveway b/c Im behind a gate....all of my non-gated neighbors have had their cars broken into. All of them. The guy across from me has had it happen 4 or 5 times since I've lived there. Opportunity crime is far too prevalent in the area for me to risk the break in...no - I would far rather whine/complain on an anonymous web forum about the 2 or 3 times its ever happened. But I would go crazy if it happened all the time b/c of a bar or restaurant. For people who think that parking is not a legitimate complaint for the houses who are near bars are just flat out stupid...nobody tolerates non-residents continually inconveniencing residents...nobody...its not a realistic expectation. If bars can do it, why not just let Tommie Vaughn park all their super duty inventory up and down neighborhood streets until they sell or get stolen? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kylejack Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 Residents who don't purchase or build adequate parking accommodations at their residence get "inconvenienced" by other people parking on a public street. If they want more parking, let them build it. The public street is paid for by all of us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toadfroggy Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 Well, Mark, you could do what others in the Heights do with their ditches...fill it with rock. It would still serve its water-handling purpose, but also give you a surface you could drive on in a pinch. Of course, I don't know what that might do to your drainage fee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
august948 Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 Residents who don't purchase or build adequate parking accommodations at their residence get "inconvenienced" by other people parking on a public street. If they want more parking, let them build it. The public street is paid for by all of us.Yeah...that's kind of the bottom line. The street is public and anyone can park there unless the city puts in signs or an ordinance (like street parking permits for residents). That's why you might have to physically occupy the space if you want to mitigate the problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
callisthenes Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 For people who think that parking is not a legitimate complaint for the houses who are near bars are just flat out stupid...nobody tolerates non-residents continually inconveniencing residents...nobody...its not a realistic expectation. If bars can do it, why not just let Tommie Vaughn park all their super duty inventory up and down neighborhood streets until they sell or get stolen? People can complain about on street parking if they want. It just doesn’t seem to be brought up when the “right” businesses are opening up around here, and dealing with it is a minor part of living in a city. In my case, I am betting if a restaurant or gym opens up in the building at 11 ½ and Studewood it will impact parking on the street around my house. And I am sure that people not wanting to go to River Oaks, City Center or Sugar Land (suburbs, ew!) will park there too when Ruggles Green opens up and brings the suburbs to the Heights. But whatever, I don’t have an issue with people legally parking on the public streets. But if problems do ensue from it, I’ll pursue remedies to get the COH to manage the city street better. BTW the mechanics at Tommy Vaughn park on the street along 12th, blocking two full lanes and forcing my bike into traffic. Maybe you can stop by and tell them to stop making bikes get in your way? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
august948 Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 If the Ruggles Green in the Heights is anything like the one at City Centre, I feel for you. Talk about adding to a "Lack of Restaurant Diversity In the Heights". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marksmu Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 Residents who don't purchase or build adequate parking accommodations at their residence get "inconvenienced" by other people parking on a public street. If they want more parking, let them build it. The public street is paid for by all of us. Thats not really the issue here. I have a driveway that goes 100' front the front of the property to my garage on the rear lot line. The garage faces the street. If someone legally parks in the street behind my driveway I can not get out of my driveway b/c the street is too narrow. I have enough parking to park 10 cars in my driveway - but it only takes one "legally" parked idiot to block all 10 in. Do you not see the problem here? The street is too narrow for trucks to get out of the driveway when people park on the street behind driveways - People parking on the street cant park with 2 wheels off the road and in the grass b/c my street has deep ditches that start not more than 6" from the white line....they would slide in the ditch if they got their wheels off the road....I cant fill the ditch across the street from me b/c I don't own it, and I doubt any neighbor wants to allow me to fill it so cars can park in what used to be his front ditch. I have tons of parking - and its not a problem for me 99.99% of the time, but if a bar were to open up that expects 100 people a night in 60 cars every night, but only have 15 parking spots - then it could be a huge problem - and I am absolutely going to side with the homeowner when that problem arises....They have a legal right to access their driveway. Getting locked in your driveway is not a price you pay for "living in the city" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
august948 Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 (edited) They have a legal right to access their driveway. Getting locked in your driveway is not a price you pay for "living in the city"If you deliberately purchased a house on a narrow street bordered by ditches that are clearly too steep to allow cars to pull fully over when parking on a public thoroughfare and then try to access your driveway in a vehicle that is clearly too large for the circumstances then whose fault is that?That's not the price you pay for "living in the city", it's the price you pay for making some lousy decisions. Edited March 5, 2013 by august948 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedScare Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 Kinda sounds like the price you pay for owning a huge truck in the city. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kylejack Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 Thats not really the issue here. I have a driveway that goes 100' front the front of the property to my garage on the rear lot line. The garage faces the street. If someone legally parks in the street behind my driveway I can not get out of my driveway b/c the street is too narrow. I have enough parking to park 10 cars in my driveway - but it only takes one "legally" parked idiot to block all 10 in. Do you not see the problem here? The street is too narrow for trucks to get out of the driveway when people park on the street behind driveways - People parking on the street cant park with 2 wheels off the road and in the grass b/c my street has deep ditches that start not more than 6" from the white line....they would slide in the ditch if they got their wheels off the road....I cant fill the ditch across the street from me b/c I don't own it, and I doubt any neighbor wants to allow me to fill it so cars can park in what used to be his front ditch. I have tons of parking - and its not a problem for me 99.99% of the time, but if a bar were to open up that expects 100 people a night in 60 cars every night, but only have 15 parking spots - then it could be a huge problem - and I am absolutely going to side with the homeowner when that problem arises....They have a legal right to access their driveway. Getting locked in your driveway is not a price you pay for "living in the city" Which I addressed: I think that some narrow streets either have their street parking suspended entirely, or only allow it on one side of the street. That, or even certain streets that require a resident tag seem fine to me. Better than putting the onus on the businesses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TGM Posted March 6, 2013 Share Posted March 6, 2013 Just get one of these:http://for-sale.yakaz.com/real-fire-hydrants-for-sale#lo=4&docid=0002hbdeah6u19vq 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marksmu Posted March 6, 2013 Share Posted March 6, 2013 If you deliberately purchased a house on a narrow street bordered by ditches that are clearly too steep to allow cars to pull fully over when parking on a public thoroughfare and then try to access your driveway in a vehicle that is clearly too large for the circumstances then whose fault is that?That's not the price you pay for "living in the city", it's the price you pay for making some lousy decisions. When I bought the house the street was narrow - but getting into my driveway was not a problem. Still isn't a problem. However, last year the new house across the street from me was completed and he (presumably required by the city) dug the ditch deep....when I bought the house I could have parked in his ditch without a problem as it was only a few inches deep....now, its at least 3' deep - something I am guessing the city requires of new construction as my ditch is also quite deep, and so is the ditch of the only other new construction on my block....everyone else has basically no ditch, or one thats only a few inches deep. As to the vehicle being too large for the circumstances - nope - its big but its not too big unless something new changes the current circumstances...I have been blocked in my driveway 1 time where I had to get someone to move their truck (concrete pumping truck)...It was an inconvenience - nothing more. If it was daily I would address the problem...its not....my previous arguments are for people that are actually having to deal with this problem. I don't consider any of my choices of house/driveway/street/truck lousy. Given that Im not rich, and I need a big truck, it was the cheapest thing I could get to commute/work in - I made good decisions that were all based on my current circumstances. Since I'm moving soon anyway - and there is nothing in the works for bar/resistant anytime soon, I'm not worried about. The House has appreciated 30+%, the street has improved, the large lot/driveway are an asset, not a liability - so ya - I don't see any lousy decisions on my end - I am merely sympathizing for people who do have to deal with the BS of bar/restaurant parking on their streets... - Its not "the price you pay" to live in the city. Houston isnt NY - the Heights was a suburb - its now considered the city - but it was never intended to be a parking lot like NY, and it never should be. That would truly ruin the attractiveness of the neighborhood. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kylejack Posted March 6, 2013 Share Posted March 6, 2013 Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I think miles and miles of parking lots ruin the attractiveness of the neighborhood. Houston's a pedestrian hell because of the commitment to car culture. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TGM Posted March 6, 2013 Share Posted March 6, 2013 Houston's a pedestrian hell because of the commitment to car culture.Houston is only a pedestrian hell if you belong to the romantised NYC pedestrian mindset that thinks you should be able to walk everywhere. If that is what you desire then you're going to grow old waiting for it to happen here. Move to NYC while you are still young and don't mind the cramped apartment shared by two other room mates. Most folks here enjoy the autonomy a car gives them, even if that means being stuck in traffic. It's their choice, and they relish having choices. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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