DJ V Lawrence
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http://www.houstonchronicle.com/disp/story...nt/3549287.html Sounds like the Chronicle, and many fans, have already fired Capers before the Texans have. But I'm wondering if there's any chance that Capers and Casserly (and Carr) have a chance of all of them keeping their jobs after this season. My reason for saying that is because I remember San Diego a few seasons ago had Marty Schottenheimer as head coach, and ended up with the first pick in the draft (after the season of 2003). They pick Eli Manning, trade him to da Giants, and get Phillip Rivers instead. Now look at them. They STILL have Schottenheimer as head coach, ended up 10-6 the season AFTER being declared the league worst, and in the 2005 season, they are 9-6 looking to tie their record last season. Firing Capers, Casserly, and/or Carr is the easy answer, but maybe the real answer is to keep them, and ADD talent around them. Not only draft Bush, but put money on the roster, look at free agents, and revamp the team around them. Don't even rule out Terrell Owens yet, either. Their team won more with a whiny Owens, than the Texans did with a one-star, talent potential team. And it's not Carr's fault that he got sacked 68 times. I'd IMMEDIATELY fire Capers however, if they beat the 49ers and don't get 1st place in the Draft, simply because it'd be obvious that he's not thinking about next season. I mean c'mon. Will beating the 49ers give you ANY bragging rights, higher morale, or take you to the playoffs? No. What good is there to do something that stupid?
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In case the pictures don't come out, here's the links... http://www.stadiumguide.com/havre.htm http://www.stadiumguide.com/clermont.htm http://www.stadiumguide.com/larissa.htm I can't confirm if land prices were included in the price results or not, but that was a good point
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Okay, here's 80 million dolar Pizza Hut Park... Here's 54 million... And here's 48.5 million... It's not my math. It's the actual costs of the stadiums... http://www.stadiumguide.com/future.htm
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Remember this soccer stadium list. Now after you see that, look at this article ... http://www.houstonchronicle.com/disp/story...nt/3541446.html Why build a $80 million dollar HISD stadium at Delmar that looks no different than any other in America, when you can go over the top for less than $30 million in downtown? For $80 million, you can not only host the MLS downtown, but you can RENOVATE Delmar stadium and it's area, and use the high school as a PRACTICE FACILITY!!! We need local ownership IMMEDIATELY!!
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Here's a stadium Idea or two for ya... (by the way, Pizza Hut Park in Dallas costed $80 million...) This one is currently being built in France. It costs $54 Million , AND it's a 25,000 seat stadium... Here's #2. A 21,000 seat retractable Roof stadium in Greece 2007 that cost $48.5 million... here's #3. Also in France. Capacity: 30,100. It cost more than HALF as much as Pizza Hut Park.... ( price tag $27 Million dollars)
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Delmar's not really in a central location. It's near many hispanic communities, but for soccer to be successful in Houston, it will have to be a diverse target audience. A central location is the way to go with Houston.
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Couldn't decide if this should be a new topic or not, but Oliver Luck is the new president of the team, and the stadium is #1 agenda. Check out this article... http://www.houstonchronicle.com/disp/story...nt/3539024.html What really struck me about this article was that fact that it mentions that this stadium very much has a reality chance of ending up downtown. Here's excerpts from the article that may give suggestions about the team's future location and/or ownership... from the John Lopez/ Houston Chronicle... --- Luck's vast experience with projects bigger than the likely 25,000- to 30,000-seat soccer-specific stadium gives this organization a head start succeeding. --- With associations with all the usual suspects when it comes to ownership
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That'd actually be damn cool too! Revitalize Richmond Ave., build by the edge of Uptown, or add a new section of Galleria? Expand Lakewood?!
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Here's that land by Toyota Center we've been discussing from http://www.houstonarchitecture.info/haif/i...topic=1659&st=0 ... Check out the land across from Root Memorial Park, and behind the Toyota Center parking garage. There was talk in the previous thread that we thought that area was an eyesore as a whole and needed to be renevated to accomodate the arena, hotel, and parks. My only issue with a soccer stadium now is that if that happened in that area of downtown, we may have to get rid of a road or two that we just upgraded. Best place to me is in Chinatown/east end directly across the freeway from Toyota Center/GRB Convention Center/Minute Maid. There could be multiple soccer practice facilities for the MLS and youth there as well (a soccer complex), the land would be much cheaper than downtown, it's a perfect central location, and that area town NEEDS to be revitalized anyway; might as well start with a great stadium, then work on the roads and developments surrounding it.
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Would LOVE to see Houston have the balls to do something like that and make it fill up. We'd be the soccer capital of America automatically. I'm telling ya...an MLS stadium/retail project would be more profitable though
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Not saying open-air is bad per-se, but soccer does have delays and canceled games during thunderstorms. Rain is okay, but lightning is the threat. Secondly, if you're a fan, would you rather watch a game indoors, or outdoors during a storm? That's a huge reason why Minute Maid Park has a retractable roof. Fan comfort. Trees would be nice around the park too though.
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The goal now is to no longer win the division. The goal is to win the World Series. The Cubs and Cards will have their own issues (Cards still have a pretty good lineup), but I'm worried about the Astros being the best team in baseball and not getting swept in the World Series in 06. Proud of the Stros in 05, but it's time the team takes it to the next level next year
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That's just the thing, though. We use the same team from last year minus Clements AND minus anyone to help Oswalt, Backe, and Pettitte, and use the same players that added up to one of the worst offenses in the MLB last year, and you're only running with the HOPE that one of the current players will step up as a power hitter with no insurance. Granted we made it to the World Series last year, but as we lost Clements, at least 10 other teams out there bolstered and improved their bullpens and bats. Not saying we can't win the World Series next year with the current team, but it's extremely risky, players will have to become stars, stars will have to become superstars, and Garner will have to be extremely careful to just get the team to the playoffs...
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Chinatown would rock, too. Subdude strikes again. hokieone, the stadium in the picture has retractable seating to cover the track during futbol matches.
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Excellent point on what to expect (a 25k, bland open-air Colt 45 stadium with use only for soccer and high school football games). If Houston wants to stay on top of the architecture food chain, I think it's best if we start looking at ways to use that stadium for more than just 13 games of soccer. Houstonians love luxurious facilities. If you had to choose where to watch a game, and the new MLS facility is smaller and less comfortable than even Robertson Stadium, why would anyone want to buy season tickets? Why not let the city put our money where our mouth is, support the team, and more importantly, make a larger stadium that actually MAKE revenue for the city 365 days a year? By the way, on the larger than MLS standard stadium: if it's as luxurious and as comfortable as Toyota Center, Minute Maid, and Reliant Stadium, I guarantee that more people would actually attend the games. Not only that, but the entire MLS league and fans would spotlight our stadium every chance they had. I'll support our team if the city is serious about supporting it.
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Here's another idea... This stadium in (Oita Stadium in Japan) seats roughly 43,000-44,000 give or take, and is a soccer stadium/track and field stadium with retractable seating to accomidate track and field events. As you can see, the seats are right there for great views. A retractable roof, like this stadium above, would definately be the way to go in Houston, because it's not too certain if Houstonians would sell out a stadium of any sports team in the rain. Now imagine if where that big screen jumbotron is, would only be a scenic skyline view of downtown Houston through the retractable roof and wall of glass. I'd say give the stadium fewer seats (between 35,000 - 40,000), but many suites, only one huge jumbotron facing the opposite side of downtown (saving costs), and on the side facing downtown, have retail Ford Field-Detroit style at street level so the stadium could make revenue even when games and track meets were not going on. Heck, it could even be added to the Houston Pavillions project if people were afraid that their project would be threatened by it. They could even add a game titantron on to the side of one of the buildings- something I think has never been tried before in any sports venue on earth. Doesn't have to be the biggest stadium on earth, but it better set the standard for professional soccer stadiums in America, just like the Astrodome and Reliant Stadium have been for all of sports. If we love Houston, and we love soccer, we should support it like no other American city.
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Okay, so we lost GarciaParra. What's next?
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Subdude, please remember that the Earthquakes moved out of San Jose not only because o fno new stadium plan, but the average attendance was only around 13,000. This stadium will have to be WAY bigger than 15,000. But it seems that Delmar is more and more unpopular. I don't like the Delmar idea either. It'd be a waste.
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That's gonna be a hot project! It BETTER come through.
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Six Flags is another great location for an MLS stadium. But I think that location is already known to have a lot of potential. What's overlooked is how subpar the strip centers look across from Reliant Park (Kirby, Old Spanish Trail.) The only think I can think of that's somewhat upscale in that area was the Texans practice Facilities, and the Radisson. I'd tear down one of the strip centers first before I'd build at Six Flags...
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I think this columnist is 150% right. And there is room to build a stadium at or near downtown (could be used as part of the Buffalo Bayou plan and build it along the bayou). Or much better; I'd either tear down the rundown looking building across from Toyota Center and Root Memorial Park, build it somewhere Midtown, or across the freeway from Minute Maid/George R. Brown to help revitalize the China Town/3rd Ward area neighborhoods. Another thought: remember how we alwayz wanted the Astrodome to at first become a track and field stadium for the Olympics, and also host the World track and field championships? Why couldn't this stadium be used also as the best track n field stadium AND soccer stadium in America? Also, with it being adjacent to Downtown, and it probably being an outdoor/retractable roof facility (if they wanted all-weather for track n field), it'd be another perfect way to show off Downtown during events. It could be a great investment for Houston AND for soccer AND for Track and Field.
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I think Berkman's natural position is First Base. But let's see how Bags feels physically when he gets back in uniform. I think he will be a dominant player this year. Get the right teammate by him, and he'll have CRAZY RBI numbers I think
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I don't really agree that Bagwell needs to retire. U gotta remember that the man came straight off of shoulder surgery, came back to a playoff contending team, and had unrealistic expectations on him for the rest of the season-post-season. The ONLY reason why he batted in the World Series was not to win the Series; it was because of Bagwell was a guy that deserved to play after waiting for so long. What I suggest is that Nomar goes left, Taveras Center, Lane Right, Berkman First Base, and have Bagwell as the main pinch hitter to see if he has his strengh back. If he does, and the 'Stros keep winning, keep him as pinch (or at least until a dude got injured, then they could put Bagwell back on first, Berkman in Left and Lane at the missing position. But I think Bags can still play, and could posibly be more effective on offense than defense this year. And Nomar would be the only offensive addition the 'Stros would need if we got him. I think the 'Stros need to sign only two new free agents: a batter like Nomar, and one more free agent pitcher. Byung-Hyun Kim and Jose Lima are still available. Both would be great for the 5th pitching spot for da Stros, and we wouldn't have to give anybody up.
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I would LOVE to see GarciaParra in Left Field for the Astros next year. Not only that, but his wife is the biggest soccer star ever to come out of America. Wife aside though, imagine our team next year with a Beltran-like offensive spark like Garciaparra (the current Astros roster is one that seems to always score on streaks), AND imagine our powerful defense only getting stronger. If we can sign Garciaparra and not have to trade anyone for him, I think it's safe to say that all we'd need after that is to develop our younger pitching. I smell a World Series title in 2006. Also, it's not impossible for Clements to come back one last time with the 'Stros in May 06 as well, which I think he'll do, especially after he will experience that WBC tornament and get an idea of how much he can physically take at age 43. (By the way, he can be 83 years old, but he will still be mentally ready to play .)
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http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/3523577.html Who do you have in mind, yo?!