VicMan Posted November 5, 2011 Share Posted November 5, 2011 Foxnews showed a clip from the 08 Republican debate of Ron Paul. They added a track of boos and in the actual debate he received applause. They got caught and had to issue an apology(not on air of course)That is far beyond spinning the truth. It is manipulation.Is there a news article about that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgriff Posted November 5, 2011 Share Posted November 5, 2011 Based on my knowledge of highly-intelligent English-speaking graduate-degreed Indians' pay structure, their wages could triple and nobody would especially care. Three of them providing triple-redundant quality control are still a fraction of the cost of one commensurately-skilled American doing a job for which the American is less motivated. In that context, the incidental costs are irrelevant.I don't think you've worked in business that involves Indian offshoring so I don't know how you have such a good understanding of how it works but you are right on the money. I've worked with Indian technical people for years. They are great people to work with. In many ways they are more American than we are now. I've never met one I didn't like. You're understanding of the cost of labor and how it relates to the U.S. is very close to correct. The Indian technical people I work with don't have the expertise of their peers in the U.S. but we still don't let them do things three times over. The way it works in EPC companies is that the Indian workshare site is guranteed 500,000 ot some other amount of hours a year. They get the money no matter what they do. We find things that they can do for us becuase the money is already gone. I personally hand off all the work I don't want to do to them. They are better then U.S. staff at following directions. Most of them are not independent thinkers like U.S. stafff though. Sometimes that's good, sometimes not. I work with people from all over the world and the Indians are probably my favorite. They want to integrate into American society more than any other culture. Sometimes that's good and sometimes not.I haven't followed this thread but thought about it today when the OWSers blocked traffic downtown. I feel for them. I felt the same way when I graduated from college and still had to work in a grocery store for $5.25 an hour. I think we should put them in charge. It's their turn. If they think they have a better way more power to them. I'm old enough to not care anymore. I don't really believe in the U.S. anymore anyway. They can make it a socialist society and I'll be OK. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNiche Posted November 5, 2011 Share Posted November 5, 2011 I don't think you've worked in business that involves Indian offshoring so I don't know how you have such a good understanding of how it works but you are right on the money. I've worked with Indian technical people for years. They are great people to work with. In many ways they are more American than we are now. I've never met one I didn't like. You're understanding of the cost of labor and how it relates to the U.S. is very close to correct. The Indian technical people I work with don't have the expertise of their peers in the U.S. but we still don't let them do things three times over. The way it works in EPC companies is that the Indian workshare site is guranteed 500,000 ot some other amount of hours a year. They get the money no matter what they do. We find things that they can do for us becuase the money is already gone. I personally hand off all the work I don't want to do to them. They are better then U.S. staff at following directions. Most of them are not independent thinkers like U.S. stafff though. Sometimes that's good, sometimes not. I work with people from all over the world and the Indians are probably my favorite. They want to integrate into American society more than any other culture. Sometimes that's good and sometimes not.I have worked with them, actually. Just took two Indian expats to lunch today, and I work with them closely to fulfill my needs. I completely agree; the ambitious nature of Indians and the warmth of their culture is an inspiration. Even still, the notion of comparative advantage is paramount. India is for process work; the United States is for project work and strategic-level thinking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LarryDierker Posted November 5, 2011 Share Posted November 5, 2011 Is there a news article about that? My dates may have been off but the fact remainshttp://news.yahoo.com/blogs/cutline/fox-faces-fallout-over-misleading-footage-ron-paul-20110217-092653-299.htmlhttp://www.mediaite.com/tv/fox-news-airing-of-old-cpac-footage-showing-crowd-booing-ron-paul-was-a-mistake/http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/113339/20110216/ron-paul-cpac.htmhttp://www.aolnews.com/2011/02/16/fox-news-caught-running-old-cpac-footage-after-ron-pauls-straw/http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/politics/6345-fox-news-deceives-public-and-ron-paulhttp://www.informationliberation.com/?id=34396 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tamtagon Posted November 5, 2011 Share Posted November 5, 2011 Fun to read! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marksmu Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 Triumph Occupies Wall Street...pretty funny...http://teamcoco.com/video/triumph-occupy-wall-st Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samagon Posted November 8, 2011 Author Share Posted November 8, 2011 Lol, that's great. Sent from my Nexus One using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trymahjong Posted November 15, 2011 Share Posted November 15, 2011 Bloomberg ordered the park cleared at 1am this morning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marksmu Posted November 15, 2011 Share Posted November 15, 2011 Bloomberg ordered the park cleared at 1am this morningAbout time - I really do hope this is the end of the nasty movement. Since the media quit paying attention to the protest it had become largely pointless anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marksmu Posted November 15, 2011 Share Posted November 15, 2011 Some High class OWS protestor....takes a dump right on the sidewalk in clear view of the street...not sure why he hides behind the mail drop....its not likely every car can't see him.http://tv.breitbart.com/caught-on-video-occupy-protester-defecates-in-public-street/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samagon Posted November 15, 2011 Author Share Posted November 15, 2011 Some High class OWS protestor....takes a dump right on the sidewalk in clear view of the street...not sure why he hides behind the mail drop....its not likely every car can't see him.http://tv.breitbart....-public-street/lol. not happy with the way the overall movement is going, he decided to have a personal 'movement' it certainly looks like more is accomplished. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
editor Posted November 15, 2011 Share Posted November 15, 2011 Just got this from HFD:---Houston Fire Department and Protestors Find Resolution to Safety HazardsToday, the HFD Fire Marshal and organizers of the “Occupy Houston” protest group met to find a resolution to safety hazard concerns in Tranquility Park along Bagby Street.Inspectors found electrical cords under water, overload of electrical outlets, and covers taken off night lights in the park exposing live wires. Inspectors and organizers worked together to insure all safety hazards were addressed and no code violations exist. A compromise was reached to allow the organizers to use six plugs for appliances, however, extension cords would no longer be used. These resolutions are in compliance with the fire code. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross Posted November 16, 2011 Share Posted November 16, 2011 Great, taxpayers are paying the electric bill to run the appliances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNiche Posted December 12, 2011 Share Posted December 12, 2011 Well this was just dumb. In what world does it make sense to protest a small government-operated office building (111 East Loop North) at "the" entrance to the Port of Houston, when there are seven interconnected entrances to that part of the Port complex...which itself is only a fraction the size of the entire port complex!?For that matter, why does it make sense to arrest or detain these completely ineffectual hipsters? It only furthers the delusion that they are making a difference...and worse still, journalists are just as oblivious to there being multiple entrances, so to the general public, it seems like 'Occupy Houston' is relevant, which in fact does make them relevant.When these hipsters start making more than half-hearted attempts at disrupting industrial operations, that's when I'll know that the 'Occupy' movement means to snowball into a force powerful enough to effect change. Right now, the whole thing just seems to be designed to get a rise out of gullible people. Its ridiculous. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skwatra Posted December 13, 2011 Share Posted December 13, 2011 i didn't read this whole thread, sorry if this was already posted. At Occupy Melbourne, they were told they could not have structures or tents, so they came up with this:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4NEKtYYYk0There is another video where the next day the police stripped off their tents, pretty harshly.I saw Occupy Auckland when I was there, it was a pretty peaceful group downtown just passing on their opinions and information near City Hall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plumber2 Posted December 13, 2011 Share Posted December 13, 2011 Well this was just dumb. In what world does it make sense to protest a small government-operated office building (111 East Loop North) at "the" entrance to the Port of Houston, when there are seven interconnected entrances to that part of the Port complex...which itself is only a fraction the size of the entire port complex!?For that matter, why does it make sense to arrest or detain these completely ineffectual hipsters? It only furthers the delusion that they are making a difference...and worse still, journalists are just as oblivious to there being multiple entrances, so to the general public, it seems like 'Occupy Houston' is relevant, which in fact does make them relevant.When these hipsters start making more than half-hearted attempts at disrupting industrial operations, that's when I'll know that the 'Occupy' movement means to snowball into a force powerful enough to effect change. Right now, the whole thing just seems to be designed to get a rise out of gullible people. Its ridiculous.I once dated a girl whose father was a Port of Houston pilot. Her father, who liked to be addressed as "Captain", told me about a time when the pilots threathened to go on strike, and "shut the Port of Houston down". The port leadership listened and quickly met their demands.I guess it's all about what kind of power you really have, as compared to what type of power you wish you had. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Please sign in to comment
You will be able to leave a comment after signing in
Sign In Now