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From the HBJ, I don't have access to the whole article:
 

"The Four Oaks Place office complex may soon be more appropriately named Five Oaks Place.
The owner of the 1.8 million-square-foot office complex in the Galleria area is looking at spending between $100 million and $120 million to develop a new office building at 1550 Post Oak Blvd., where a 24 Hour Fitness is currently located"


It's about to get busy in that area...

 

Webcam:

 

http://oxblue.com/open/transwestern/5oaks

 

Renderings, and article from 10/13:

 

http://www.bizjournals.com/houston/blog/breaking-ground/2013/10/photos-developers-break-ground-on-bhp.html

 

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Though it is cool, it's only going to be 400,000 sq. ft. That might get you 10 stories.

The subtitle says 18 stories.

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The subtitle says 18 stories.

Yeah, that sounds right. A 40,000-square-foot floorplate (from a 10-story building) would've been excessively large for most users.

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The Cosmo dwellars are going to have to shut their shades!

Also, the Willie G's site across Post Oak Blvd. is set to house a 300,000 square foot office tower. That little stretch will be crane city with these two possibly joining The Titan and BLVD Place.

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Where is Willie G's going?

Don't really care, they're a lousy chain to begin with. Anything concrete on that site? (no pun intended)

Good news on this latest tower, I don't know how big the lot the 24hr fitness is on, but from what everyone is saying, it sounds about right as far as height goes. With the space in the area starting to get a bit scarce, I wouldn't doubt if a few of the final pieces of land wait to see how quickly those plots fill out. Might get some substantial towers if things go well in a few years.

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Where is Willie G's going?

Landrys, owner of Willie G's, has the empty land to the south and behind their office building around the corner on Loop 610 between Post Oak Blvd and San Felipe. Maybe the build something there?

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Landrys, owner of Willie G's, has the empty land to the south and behind their office building around the corner on Loop 610 between Post Oak Blvd and San Felipe. Maybe the build something there?

You are on to something.

I just learned that Landry's will be moving Willie G's into a newly constructed location next door to the Bentley dealership that Tillman owns (immediately south on the West Loop). I understand that construction will begin in the next month or two because Willie G's lease expires in June or July of 2008 and they want to have a seemless transition. Before you dismiss the potential of the W. G's brand, I've been told that the new location will be a tremendous departure from the old concept and that the buildout will be extremely contemporary with a large raw bar and a significant second floor patio. We'll just have to wait and see if they can pull it off.

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Good news, bad news...

The Willie G's office project by Simmons-Vedder is off. The site is for-sale again.

Now, for the good news, here's some update info. from the HBJ on the new Four Oaks Tower

Tower Five at Four Oaks Place is the official name.

The tower has grown and will now be THIRTY stories instead of 17/18.

22 floors of office space making up about 525,000 square feet.

8 levels of parking holding 1500 cars.

Funding is in place and this project is a GO

Ground will break in first quarter of 2009

PICKARD CHILTON is the design firm on record

That last bit is the best news. Main Place and the old proposal for the AIM Headquarters are Pickard Chilton projects. At 30 stories, were looking at a 400 to 450 footer or more if there is a decorative top!

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Good news, bad news...

The Willie G's office project by Simmons-Vedder is off. The site is for-sale again.

It's for sale? Swamplot quoted the article as saying, "The deal isn

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Good news, bad news...

The Willie G's office project by Simmons-Vedder is off. The site is for-sale again.

Now, for the good news, here's some update info. from the HBJ on the new Four Oaks Tower

Tower Five at Four Oaks Place is the official name.

The tower has grown and will now be THIRTY stories instead of 17/18.

22 floors of office space making up about 525,000 square feet.

8 levels of parking holding 1500 cars.

Funding is in place and this project is a GO

Ground will break in first quarter of 2009

PICKARD CHILTON is the design firm on record

That last bit is the best news. Main Place and the old proposal for the AIM Headquarters are Pickard Chilton projects. At 30 stories, were looking at a 400 to 450 footer or more if there is a decorative top!

exciting news, is there a rendering yet?

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exciting news, is there a rendering yet?

Didn't see one on the architects website. Haven't checked the others yet.

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It's for sale? Swamplot quoted the article as saying, "The deal isn't dead, but it's not moving forward." Is this more recent news that it's for sale?

it's for sale.

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Will the new building mean that more consulates will be established in that complex? Three are already at Four Oaks Place. Perhaps Transwestern should talk to the Swiss and the Australians and see if they want to re-establish their Houston missions.

Also Transwestern should talk to Vietnam, the Philippines, South Africa, Singapore, the United Arab Emirates, and Nigeria.

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Will the new building mean that more consulates will be established in that complex? Three are already at Four Oaks Place. Perhaps Transwestern should talk to the Swiss and the Australians and see if they want to re-establish their Houston missions.

Also Transwestern should talk to Vietnam, the Philippines, South Africa, Singapore, the United Arab Emirates, and Nigeria.

Singapore has a Consulate General in Houston, but I am suprised the UAE doesn't have one as Qatar does. Nigeria is also one I am suprised doesn't have consulate representation in Houston...

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... At 30 stories, were looking at a 400 to 450 footer or more if there is a decorative top!

Sounds like the folks who bought north-facing units at The Cosmo will soon be looking out at a wall of glass, instead of the panoramic views they have now. But, I guess that should be no surprise to anyone who's been paying attention to all the projects proposed in this area.

On the plus side for those folks, tho', I imagine 5 Oaks will increase demand for condos nearby. Not having to fight the traffic makes this a much more enjoyable place to live and work.

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Singapore has a Consulate General in Houston, but I am suprised the UAE doesn't have one as Qatar does. Nigeria is also one I am suprised doesn't have consulate representation in Houston...

Singapore's is an "honorary consulate" located out of an office in the Chase Tower. It's not at the same level as a Consulate General.

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Singapore's is an "honorary consulate" located out of an office in the Chase Tower. It's not at the same level as a Consulate General.

Its not the same... but it is. While living in Abilene, I had to go to the "Honorary German Consulate" in Dallas to stamp a paper for my German Passport. So It gets the job done, if you business is a passport.

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Good news, bad news...

The Willie G's office project by Simmons-Vedder is off. The site is for-sale again.

Now, for the good news, here's some update info. from the HBJ on the new Four Oaks Tower

Tower Five at Four Oaks Place is the official name.

The tower has grown and will now be THIRTY stories instead of 17/18.

22 floors of office space making up about 525,000 square feet.

8 levels of parking holding 1500 cars.

Funding is in place and this project is a GO

Ground will break in first quarter of 2009

PICKARD CHILTON is the design firm on record

That last bit is the best news. Main Place and the old proposal for the AIM Headquarters are Pickard Chilton projects. At 30 stories, were looking at a 400 to 450 footer or more if there is a decorative top!

Some updates we have missed in HAIF since August, a variance sign, I saw posted last fall, was approved in November.

The City of Houston

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Was that approved in at last weeks meeting?

What meeting are you referring to Jessie?

That old article is from November.

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What meeting are you referring to Jessie?

That old article is from November.

My bad, nevermind.

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yeah, they need a lead tenant before they move forward, which shouldn't come as any surprise.

it's a nice building, but rather plain.

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You gotta give us more info than what seems like a hunch lockmat lol

Whats got you thinking its back?

I know, sorry. ;P

bidclerk.com had an updated bid proposal on it. They were not taking bids b/c they're still looking for financing. Does anyone know how bidclerk finds these bid proposals? I'm sure it's public info somehow.

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My lame attempt at obtaining some information from Pickard Chilton failed. They said it's confidential at this time but should the status change they will be posting to their website.

Still holding out on Transwestern :)

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I don't have anything concrete, but I got asked to do some budget work for a supposed 17 story or so tower in this area. They wouldn't tell me much beside that it was suppossedly in the same area, about 17 floors, funded, had a tenant and was moving forward very quickly. Probably a June Start. Sounds like it could be the same thing. How's that for speculation.

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I don't have anything concrete, but I got asked to do some budget work for a supposed 17 story or so tower in this area. They wouldn't tell me much beside that it was suppossedly in the same area, about 17 floors, funded, had a tenant and was moving forward very quickly. Probably a June Start. Sounds like it could be the same thing. How's that for speculation.

Not bad... thanks for the info. :)

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I don't have anything concrete, but I got asked to do some budget work for a supposed 17 story or so tower in this area. They wouldn't tell me much beside that it was suppossedly in the same area, about 17 floors, funded, had a tenant and was moving forward very quickly. Probably a June Start. Sounds like it could be the same thing. How's that for speculation.

If that's the case, the 24 Hour Fitness is going to have to be demolished soon, unless the June start date means the start of the demolition work.

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I was browsing and saw this. Please do not tell me this was some cancelled project!

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forgot the link: http://www.paynerowl.../Architecture/7

second edit: I didn't notice that I could expand the caption to see the description of the project, which says:

Office building in the Galleria area, Houston.

If not readily apparent, the tallest building is the one added to the scene.

Architect, Pickard Chilton

Photo: Joe Aker.

Third edit: Their AIG rendering caption says that it is a "proposed building." By deduction... :)

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see my third edit in original post :)

Another good sign is that this was once a site that was going to be developed, looks like the old site of the Titan condo tower, where McDonalds is.

Also, I think this is like the fourth building in their que, which I would hope is a good sign?

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Hold up, is this actually on the four leaf property? Didn't they announce within the past couple years that they were planning on building an office tower?

Hold up, again. I think this is actually in between the Cosmopolitan and the Four Oaks Place buildings. My bad

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I don't have anything concrete, but I got asked to do some budget work for a supposed 17 story or so tower in this area. They wouldn't tell me much beside that it was suppossedly in the same area, about 17 floors, funded, had a tenant and was moving forward very quickly. Probably a June Start. Sounds like it could be the same thing. How's that for speculation.

Looks like that may have been the Perennial. 22 stories, June start, main tenant already secured.

The 24-hour Fitness is not only still there, the people there have not heard anything about it possibly being closed any time soon.

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Okay, so maybe it's been like four years since this project was announced. Maybe it's on hold but probably died. But I'm still interested to see what everyone thinks about the design.

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I particularly love how it totally doesn't fit at all with any of the buildings in the area, and would take a fair chunk of space in the few out my window. I'd like to see another tower there, but I'd like it to be less of a glass box.

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BHP Billiton keeps its outside-Australia headquarters next door: in 1994 the Chronicle says it leased a 90 ksf upon moving from San Felipe Plaza; now it takes five times as much ...more than their secondary head offices in London and Singapore, or their marketing centers in Singapore, Antwerp and The Hague, I'm guessing.

If and when the Petrohawk conjunction goes through, do you think downtown Houston will lose one of its fastest rising tenants

http://blog.chron.co...ing-in-houston/

or will BHP choose not to consolidate at Four Oaks Place? The first link says, "no flow of ideas upwards allowed."

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A slow news day: nothing going up in the past twelve hours. BHPB's tower lease extends another ten years from now, while it is for the petroleum division and not the mines outside Australia headquarters as I wrote. You saw that a consolidation downtown was the third alternative I completely ruled out. It is fun to speculate on 800 Bell's future (not to be the Exxon Building) including another single owner instead of partition for one mixed use or another. Since that review site remarks that many of BHPB Petroleum managers are Exxon alums, one imagines they'd enjoy it fairly well. But although BHPBP's building on Post Oak is full, and the other three towers of Four Oaks Place have a scant four available floors between them, I dunno what to expect.

User Golyadkin [re?]posted Payne Rowlett's rendering of this tower on http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showpost.php?p=5365456&postcount=11 this week:

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