The Domain: Mixed-Use District At 11410 Century Oaks Ter.

[citykid09]

WOW! Austins new Domain!

Check out this development in Austin, pretty nice!

Mopacs;2680734 said:

Here are my photos...

Park of what makes this development unique and attractive are the (preserved) tree-lined streets and the small parks and playscapes. I must admit this is one of the nicer 'town center' type developmetns I have seen, and there are many these days. Nice mix of office, retail, hotel and residential within a few blocks of each other.

Start off with Austin's first Nieman's:

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Century Oaks Terrace... lined with 100+ year old Live Oak trees, preserved from the old IBM parkland atop which the Domain resides.

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THe 4-story building in the background is The Offices at The Domain. A large law firm has already leased about 30% of this building..

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Planned Westin Hotel, located about a block east of Macy's

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I'll post a few more later...

[suzerain]

WOW! Austins new Domain!

Check out this development in Austin, pretty nice!

Yeah, Austin is way out ahead on urban development compared to Houston, Also, this is north of Austin outside the main DT. I believe it is part of Austin's plan to have pockets of dense development along the commuter rail they are planning to build there.

Plus, this is just phase one of the project.

[Trae]

Austin may be way ahead of San Antonio, but it isn't close to Houston.

[musicman]

Austin may be way ahead of San Antonio, but it isn't close to Houston.

IMO i'm not sure austin is ahead of san antonio. i think their riverwalk area is way more interesting that these pics. this just looks like the town square concept or a mall minus the enclosure.

[Trae]

Well, in terms of new urban development going on in Downtown, Austin is ahead of San Antonio. SA is mostly building new suburban shopping centers.

[houstonmacbro]

I know those pictures are not representative of greater Austin, but wow ... it looks so ... liveable.

[musicman]

I know those pictures are not representative of greater Austin, but wow ... it looks so ... liveable.

if it was the middle of summer, i think you would have a different response.

[The Great Hizzy!]

Yeah, Austin is way out ahead on urban development compared to Houston, Also, this is north of Austin outside the main DT. I believe it is part of Austin's plan to have pockets of dense development along the commuter rail they are planning to build there.

Plus, this is just phase one of the project.

Ooooh, gee, you know, I think I disagree with this one.

[suzerain]

Ooooh, gee, you know, I think I disagree with this one.

Well, what I mean the cohesiveness and development of an urban core. Additionally, they are addressing the issue that everyone cannot live downtown so they are creating other dense center around which development can occur. Such as the Domain, the Mueller airport redevelopment. All I know, is every time I go up to Austin I am impressed with what they are doing.

Attached is a poster of the projects under way or proposed for DT Austin. Well, it is actually a PDF and too large so here is the link

DT development: http://www.ci.austin.tx.us/downtown/#emerging

The Triangle: http://www.ci.austin.tx.us/smartgrowth/triangle_lg.htm

There is much more but I do have the time to find it right now.

[MidtownCoog]

I was in Austin two weeks ago. The entire East End is still like old town Humble on steroids. With a bit of Pasadena mixed in.

And should I mention the 2:00 traffic?

But it's still a nice place to visit. Sure wouldn't want to live there as they try to catch up.

[musicman]

Well, what I mean the cohesiveness and development of an urban core. Additionally, they are addressing the issue that everyone cannot live downtown so they are creating other dense center around which development can occur. Such as the Domain, the Mueller airport redevelopment. All I know, is every time I go up to Austin I am impressed with what they are doing.

last time i was there the roads didn't keep up with growth and it was surprising how bad traffic was for such a supposedly environmentally conscious area. as for new development, they have no choice but to go farther out.

[lockmat]

WOW! Austins new Domain!

Check out this development in Austin, pretty nice!

that's amazing. Does anyone know how big of an area that is?

[suzerain]

Here is some info on the second phase: http://www.statesman.com/news/content/news...4/24domain.html

Developer plans minicity for second phase of the Domain in North Austin

By Kate Miller Morton

AMERICAN-STATESMAN STAFF

Saturday, February 24, 2007

The sleek, high-end shops such as Neiman Marcus and Tiffany & Co., scheduled to open March 9 at the Domain shopping center, stand in sharp contrast to the gritty industrial and commercial buildings around them.

But Endeavor Real Estate Group's preliminary plans for the 177-acre second phase of the North Austin development could soon change that.

Endeavor plans to replace nearly a dozen aging, low-rise buildings and sprawling surface parking lots with as many as 50 residential, retail, office and parking structures ranging from two to 26 stories. A 9-acre park, an outdoor amphitheater and hike-and-bike trails are also planned.

Ambitious and expensive, the development envisioned along Burnet Road would require the city to significantly increase the maximum height and density allowed on the land and could require public incentives to offset some of the cost.

City leaders seem largely supportive of the project, which could give a serious boost to the city's wish to transform about 2,240 acres of sparsely populated and largely commercial and industrial property in the area into a compact minicity with as many as 82,000 residents and more than 50,000 workers in the next 25 to 30 years.

"It will become a major catalyst for the creation of our second downtown," City Council Member Brewster McCracken said of the project.

[Jonah]

That looks pretty awesome!! That's great news for Austin. I wish the Hardy Rail Yards would get off the ground with something like this.

[musicman]

City leaders seem largely supportive of the project, which could give a serious boost to the city's wish to transform about 2,240 acres of sparsely populated and largely commercial and industrial property in the area into a compact minicity with as many as 82,000 residents and more than 50,000 workers in the next 25 to 30 years.

developments like this are easily possible when the area is sparsely populated/industrial property. usually the parcels of land are larger and cheaper since it is farther from town.

[SpaceCity]

What part of town is this in? It's beautiful.

[suzerain]

What part of town is this in? It's beautiful.

Northwest

I believe it is along the planned commuter rail. They want to develop little minicities of more dense development along the path of the train to try and decrease the cars on the road. I believe another stop is in the Mueller airport and there may be one more that I cannot remember off the top of my head.

[JDawgATX]

The Domain is on the Northwest side and is roughly about 10 or so miles from downtown. I can't remember the exact distance so 10 miles might be wrong. This is just the beginning of what could be considered an outdoor version of Houston's Gallaria to a certain extent. A new Westin hotel will be built as well as new buildings of up to and over 300 feet high. Nordstrom will be building its second Austin store here and there are other high end retailers that are planning on opening up once the second phase is finished. It should be very interesting to see how it is built up over the years.

[texas911]

That's how I envisioned the West U Village. Not the crappy feaux french red tile roof crap they are going to build.

[N Judah]

That's how I envisioned the West U Village. Not the crappy feaux french red tile roof crap they are going to build.

I dunno...it is still pretty fake-looking, if you ask me.

[Vertigo58]

That's how I envisioned the West U Village. Not the crappy feaux french red tile roof crap they are going to build.

Exactly,

I am really impressed with this developement (pics helped alot) Houston get with it!

[TAK]

wow.... i gotta get into the office more often (long commute from houston). this is right by the old IBM offices (of which, i believe, the 2nd phase will encompass, as IBM has sold most of the space to the Domain.) This is not "far" from downtown Austin by any stretch, and it's very near all of the 'money'. this area will probably become austin's galleria area.

Hmmm, maybe I should move back to Austin, I suspect there will be some housing bubble type action going on there before there is in Houston. Might as well play along...

[largeTEXAS]

If this will indeed become their "Galleria" area, I think this is far better than a mall to work around. But, in my opinion, this development - like many New Urbanist developments - looks cheesy and faux. I really hope these types of developments evolve into "real" cities over time because they look and feel so Disney-fied. Kudos to Austin though for planning! The Houston Galleria area is such a clusterf$#*; we seriously need to employ some of these New Urbanist principals to combat the total lack of planning and serious traffic issues.

[rocketman1]

I dunno...it is still pretty fake-looking, if you ask me.

I completely agree with N Judah...

While I'm not saying this is a bad, stupid, or ugly project, I ask you what differentiates it with The Woodlands Mall/riverwalk or with what they're trying to do in Sugarland and now the old Town and Country Mall site ...all are essentially fake looking stucco crap projects with a little polished metal thrown together in the spirit of New Urbanism...which, I'm sorry folks, does have its faults. I'm not saying it's 'wrong', but it has become rather cult like in people's belief that it will solve everything.

If you want to talk dense, URBAN, modern, and CHIC, then think the Houston Galleria. Yes, folks. In our own backyard. That's first class. This is a suburban piece of crap 12 miles from downtown Austin that is disguised to be urban.

Why does everything Austin do somehow seem to get the seal of approval? Just read what everyone has said so far...Houston isn't 'FAR BEHIND THE TIMES'...lol...if not having one of these stucco places is "far behind" to you, then I ask you where you've been living? Under a rock? Again, Houston has several of these projects going up around town on a little smaller scale, and I'm not necessarily a fan of those, either. But they're there,

Austin needs a legit mall. They say this will be it and for years to come. But I'm talking about a mall like Dallas's or Houston's Galleria. Compact, enclosed (Texas heat), and full of high end department stores and boutique stores. Not some outdoor pavilion where people on a Saturday afternoon will sweat and wear shorts, sandals, fanny packs, and Mickey Mouse t-shirts to beat the Texas heat. That doesn't seem so cool to me.

This mall looks like that fake Hollywood town square from Back to the Future 2! lol...and that movie set was supposed to be a joke about the suburbs people.

It looks like they're trying to turn it into some Country Club Plaza in Kansas City...but that takes 25 years, too, and a ton of land. Not just for the shops, but for the 30 story midrises, condos, park, etc. (Country Club Plaza in KC is like Houston's Uptown Galleria area...but all outdoors and made for the automobile...CCP is also only 4 miles from downtown KC with an area sort of like Montrose/Sixth St. (Westport St.) between the downtown and the CCP area...it's just a straight shot down Broadway street from downtown KC to CCP more or less like Westheimer goes thru north museum area/Montrose and then onto Galleria is in Houston. The mall part looks really nice...but really stucco, too...bottom line, it's no Galleria. And I don't see this Austin place being any CCP in KC, either. It's 12 miles from downtown Austin and doesn't connect to downtown as well as the centers in KC or Houston. But who knows. Maybe it will in a 100 years like The Domain's homepage states!

http://www.countryclubplaza.com/ --- compare.

http://www.thedomainaustin.com/ --- if you go to the Gallery section, you will notice that a lot of these pictures aren't impressive at all. Buildings look like something you would find on the Beltway, not the Loop.

Edited April 10, 2007 by rocketman1

[feufoma]

Why does everything Austin do somehow seem to get the seal of approval? Just read what everyone has said so far...Houston isn't 'FAR BEHIND THE TIMES'...LOL.

Is it un-PC or socially suicidal to say Austin is cool - yes - but getting a little overrated lately when it comes to everything they do being golden. lol.

well, it's Austin, so it HAS to be brilliant. That is illogical thinking. Austin is run by money driven developers in a lot of instances, too.

Totally agree! Austin is SO overrated! I think it's just PC to 'follow the crowd' and sing the town's praises. This development is ok but can't begin to compare with true shopping/ dining destinations. Austin: it's enough to make you sick...

[JDawgATX]

I completely agree with N Judah...

While I'm not saying this is a bad, stupid, or ugly project, I ask you what differentiates it with The Woodlands Mall/riverwalk or with what they're trying to do in Sugarland and now the old Town and Country Mall site ...all are essentially fake looking stucco crap projects with a little polished metal thrown together in the spirit of New Urbanism...which, I'm sorry folks, does have its faults. I'm not saying it's 'wrong', but it has become rather cult like in people's belief that it will solve everything.

If you want to talk dense, URBAN, modern, and CHIC, then think the Houston Galleria. Yes, folks. In our own backyard. That's first class. This is a suburban piece of crap 12 miles from downtown Austin that is disguised to be urban.

Why does everything Austin do somehow seem to get the seal of approval? Just read what everyone has said so far...Houston isn't 'FAR BEHIND THE TIMES'...lol...if not having one of these stucco places is "far behind" to you, then I ask you where you've been living? Under a rock? Again, Houston has several of these projects going up around town on a little smaller scale, and I'm not necessarily a fan of those, either. But they're there,

Austin needs a legit mall. They say this will be it and for years to come. But I'm talking about a mall like Dallas's or Houston's Galleria. Compact, enclosed (Texas heat), and full of high end department stores and boutique stores. Not some outdoor pavilion where people on a Saturday afternoon will sweat and wear shorts, sandals, fanny packs, and Mickey Mouse t-shirts to beat the Texas heat. That doesn't seem so cool to me.

This mall looks like that fake Hollywood town square from Back to the Future 2! lol...and that movie set was supposed to be a joke about the suburbs people.

It looks like they're trying to turn it into some Country Club Plaza in Kansas City...but that takes 25 years, too, and a ton of land. Not just for the shops, but for the 30 story midrises, condos, park, etc. (Country Club Plaza in KC is like Houston's Uptown Galleria area...but all outdoors and made for the automobile...CCP is also only 4 miles from downtown KC with an area sort of like Montrose/Sixth St. (Westport St.) between the downtown and the CCP area...it's just a straight shot down Broadway street from downtown KC to CCP more or less like Westheimer goes thru north museum area/Montrose and then onto Galleria is in Houston. The mall part looks really nice...but really stucco, too...bottom line, it's no Galleria. And I don't see this Austin place being any CCP in KC, either. It's 12 miles from downtown Austin and doesn't connect to downtown as well as the centers in KC or Houston. But who knows. Maybe it will in a 100 years like The Domain's homepage states!

http://www.countryclubplaza.com/ --- compare.

http://www.thedomainaustin.com/ --- if you go to the Gallery section, you will notice that a lot of these pictures aren't impressive at all. Buildings look like something you would find on the Beltway, not the Loop.

The Domain is closer to downtown than 12 miles in fact Ill pull up a map I saw recently that shows it maybe be closer than 10 miles. Not only that but the Domain is near 2 major freeways one is Loop One wich may not go into downtown but has easy accsess in getting into downtown. Second the new Commuter rail line will run through the area wich will be a direct connect to downtown.

Totally agree! Austin is SO overrated! I think it's just PC to 'follow the crowd' and sing the town's praises. This development is ok but can't begin to compare with true shopping/ dining destinations. Austin: it's enough to make you sick...

So much love for your capital city, think twice before you blurb some stupid comment about Austin, youd be suprised how many Austin people get on here. Though its your Opinion, its funny how I meet so many people who just moved to Austin from Houston and how much they like it here... Nuf said... Houston is a great city I love Houston alot it is my second favorite city in Texas behind Austin. I enjoy visiting Houston and I agree I think Austin needs an actual mall similar to the Gallaria because I honestly don't want to be walking around in 100 degree heat in the summertime. Austin has Barton Creek Square wich is a REAL mall but we need something alot bigger.

[Trae]

Why the hate on Austin? The only thing I dislike about it are its freeways. They stop, turn into a boulevard, then start back up again. The only real freeway in Austin is I-35.

[TexasArchitect]

so i went to visit the domain. some friends of mine took me there as they did the louis vuitton and stuart weitzman store there. it's close to UT. i must say the area where it's located is kind of weird. all these business buildings. feels like it's in an industrial area....or at least to me it did. but when ur standing in front of neiman markus looking down the shops it's a different feel, IMO. some don't like the style, but i do. i also like the resedential units up top. one of the g.c.'s told me that the units were starting off at $700 which i think is a bargain!! especially considering the residential have a parking garage. but i never verified this amount.

all in all i think it's ok. the unfortunate thing is someone already trie to break in the louis vuitton store by throwing something at the glass to shatter it. luckily the glass has a film the prevented the glass from breaking

what i do like about austin is the attetion their houses have to be green.

[RedScare]

the unfortunate thing is someone already trie to break in the louis vuitton store by throwing something at the glass to shatter it. luckily the glass has a film the prevented the glass from breaking

I wonder why Pure Autuer and Vertigo58 did not mention this earlier?

[TexasArchitect]

I wonder why Pure Autuer and Vertigo58 did not mention this earlier?

are they connected to the developers??

anywho, last i heard my friend had to draw up a sketch for a barricade for the damaged window till LV gets the new glass shipped. they even sent me a pic of the damage. i can only imagine if that glass would have shattered how much merchandise would have been lost