TJones Posted April 7, 2007 Share Posted April 7, 2007 John McPhee - Travels In Georgia(unknown author) - The Good EarthI'm in the middle of The Kite Runner right now, and it seems pretty good.I read The Good Earth back in highschool editor. Good book about rags to riches then back to rags again. You are referring to the Pearl S. Buck novel, correct ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
editor Posted April 7, 2007 Share Posted April 7, 2007 I read The Good Earth back in highschool editor. Good book about rags to riches then back to rags again. You are referring to the Pearl S. Buck novel, correct ?Yep. That's the one. Thanks for filling in the blank on the author there. I read it in high school, too, and it always stuck with me.The only other books I remember from high school were Jane Eyre and The Sun Also Rises. I hated Jane Eyre then and I still hate it now. Hemmingway's The Sun Also Rises worked nicely with my dress-in-all-black Depeche Mode-listening high school days. I wonder if it would still make sense now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bachanon Posted April 7, 2007 Share Posted April 7, 2007 1987, black turtle neck (in may), cloves cigarette, doc martins.....ahhhh, takes me back.She's dressed in black againAnd I'm falling down againDown to the floor againI'm begging for more againBut oh what can you doWhen she's dressed in blackMy mind wanders endlesslyOn paths where she's leading meWith games that she likes to playAnd words that she doesn't sayNot when we are alongAnd she is dressed in blackAs a picture of herselfShe's a picture of the worldA reflection of youA reflection of meAnd it's all there to seeIf you only give inTo the fire withinDressed in black againShadows fall on to meAs she stands there over meAnd waits to encompass meI lay here helplesslyBut oh what can you doWhen she's dressed in blackDressed in black again...http://www.last.fm/music/Depeche+Mode/_/Dressed+in+Black Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgreco Posted April 7, 2007 Share Posted April 7, 2007 I would recommend a few authors Klosterman, Kidder, Thompson and Albom.The book by Kidder is Mountains beyound Moutains... It really is a great book. 2 chuck klosterman books; Sex, Drugs, and Cocoa Puffs a low culture manifesto and IV: a decade of curious people and dangerous ideas. I would recommend all of Mitch Albom's book he has some great short quick reads. Last everyone should read ever Hunter S. Thompson book, Gonzo art is so amazing and his gonzo writing is great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
musicman Posted April 8, 2007 Share Posted April 8, 2007 i had hoped for more avid readers on haif. i appreciate the input, so far, but i thought for sure someone would have some classics to suggest.christian school didn't expose us to many of the classics because they were more "humanistic".anyone love classic literature? in my mind, i think the classics are dante, homer, not necessarily the romantics. i guess many of these will be fiction, but they shed light on the human condition.thanks, in advance.not to get off the subject but what christian school didn't expose you to the classics?if you want classics i will have to recommend the prince and the pauper, the scarlett letter, fall of the house of usher, house of the seven gables, taming of the shrew, Death comes for the archbishop, old man and the sea, a farewell to arms, of mice and men. grapes of wrath, east of eden. these are some i remember reading in high school. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
editor Posted April 8, 2007 Share Posted April 8, 2007 not to get off the subject but what christian school didn't expose you to the classics?if you want classics i will have to recommend the prince and the pauper, the scarlett letter, fall of the house of usher, house of the seven gables, taming of the shrew, Death comes for the archbishop, old man and the sea, a farewell to arms, of mice and men. grapes of wrath, east of eden. these are some i remember reading in high school.I went to Catholic school, and we read hardly any of the classics. I think we had one each year during the term, and then one more over Summer. These days I really feel like I missed out on a lot, so I get them free from Project Gutenberg and load them into my phone/PDA. I highly recommend that site to anyone who wants to catch up on the classics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
musicman Posted April 8, 2007 Share Posted April 8, 2007 I went to Catholic school, and we read hardly any of the classics. I think we had one each year during the term, and then one more over Summer. where did you go to school? i thought we had ot read too much! all i remember was 7 during the summer. and then lots during the school year itself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bachanon Posted April 8, 2007 Share Posted April 8, 2007 not to get off the subject but what christian school didn't expose you to the classics?if you want classics i will have to recommend the prince and the pauper, the scarlett letter, fall of the house of usher, house of the seven gables, taming of the shrew, Death comes for the archbishop, old man and the sea, a farewell to arms, of mice and men. grapes of wrath, east of eden. these are some i remember reading in high school.i think we read excerpts of the scarlet letter and old man and the sea in high school. at north harris i read all of the scarlet letter, the fall of the house of usher and a farewell to arms, but none of the others.project gutenburg is a great idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nmainguy Posted April 8, 2007 Share Posted April 8, 2007 i had hoped for more avid readers on haif. i appreciate the input, so far, but i thought for sure someone would have some classics to suggest. The Garden of Eden by Hemingway-one of his last published works. It's a tough book to find so if you are really interested I will lend it to you but if you don't return it I'll have to send my Uncle Vito to retieve it. The Good Earth by Buck-and I know it's been mentioned before but it will never stop being a classic work. It will always make you think. American poetry: Robert Frost; Walt Whitman for starters. Pride and Prejudice by Jane Austin. Red Badge of Courage by Stephen Crane Heart of Darkness by Joseph Conrad. And of course Moby Dick by Herman Melville. Alot of people will scoff at my list and call it old-school. That's not OK because if it wasn't for "old school" you would never had known of Morrison, McCullough, Sontag and Twain, But it's always hard to make a list if I don't know what your intrest in classics is. I just love descriptive writers like Austin, Hemingway, Twain, Rand, Steinbeck, Morrison, Faulkner, McCullough, Sontag and Williams. It takes a rare skill to draw you into the narritive in a way most writers can't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmariar Posted April 8, 2007 Share Posted April 8, 2007 Bachanon, I've got tons of classic fiction I could recommend, if you want those recommendations.I'll list some non-fiction "classics" I enjoyed (or found important), though, as you seem more interested in that - and, if you tell me which seem along the lines of what you're interested in, I can list more in that area. The Rawls book I listed above is a classic of "modern liberal philosophy" (which doesn't really mean the same thing as liberal political philosophy), and I mentioned some earlier philosophers as well (and can list more classic philosophy, if you want, there's tons to read there that's good beyond what I listed above and below - Bentham, John Stuart Mill, Hume, Kant, Rousseau, Locke, Hobbes, etc., etc., etc.). Then there's also...Frazer, The Golden Bough ("A monumental study in comparative folklore, magic and religion, The Golden Bough shows parallels between the rites and beliefs, superstitions and taboos of early cultures and those of Christianity. It had a great impact on psychology and literature and remains an early classic anthropological resource.")Darwin, The Origin of Species Marx, Communist Manifesto Adam Smith, The Wealth of Nations Mead, Coming of Age in Samoa Plato, The Republic Sun Tzu, The Art of WarThoreau, WaldenMalcom X, Autobiography of Malcom XMachiavelli, The PrinceFriedan, The Feminine MystiqueFreud, The Interpretation of DreamsCarson, Silent SpringGibbon, Decline of the Roman EmpireSinger, Animal Liberation These are just ones that came to mind off the top of my head. Note that I'm not saying that I necessarily agree with the positions taken in any given book listed. If I just read books that told me what I already believe, though, I don't think my beliefs would be as fully formed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgreco Posted April 8, 2007 Share Posted April 8, 2007 Bachanon, I've got tons of classic fiction I could recommend, if you want those recommendations.I'll list some non-fiction "classics" I enjoyed (or found important), though, as you seem more interested in that - and, if you tell me which seem along the lines of what you're interested in, I can list more in that area. The Rawls book I listed above is a classic of "modern liberal philosophy" (which doesn't really mean the same thing as liberal political philosophy), and I mentioned some earlier philosophers as well (and can list more classic philosophy, if you want, there's tons to read there that's good beyond what I listed above and below - Bentham, John Stuart Mill, Hume, Kant, Rousseau, Locke, Hobbes, etc., etc., etc.). Then there's also...Frazer, The Golden Bough ("A monumental study in comparative folklore, magic and religion, The Golden Bough shows parallels between the rites and beliefs, superstitions and taboos of early cultures and those of Christianity. It had a great impact on psychology and literature and remains an early classic anthropological resource.")Darwin, The Origin of Species Marx, Communist Manifesto Adam Smith, The Wealth of Nations Mead, Coming of Age in Samoa Plato, The Republic Sun Tzu, The Art of WarThoreau, WaldenMalcom X, Autobiography of Malcom XMachiavelli, The PrinceFriedan, The Feminine MystiqueFreud, The Interpretation of DreamsCarson, Silent SpringGibbon, Decline of the Roman EmpireSinger, Animal Liberation These are just ones that came to mind off the top of my head. Note that I'm not saying that I necessarily agree with the positions taken in any given book listed. If I just read books that told me what I already believe, though, I don't think my beliefs would be as fully formed.everyone should read Marx, once you understasnd communism it makes so much more sense than any other system. To bad it would never work. Also for more classic, check out....Michel FoucaultEmile DurkheimCharlotte Perkins GilmanWilliam JamesAnna Julia CooperJohn Maynard KeynesGeorg LukacsBetty FriedanSaskia SassenFrantz FanonClaude Levi-Strauss.Buit I would also recommend comtemporary readings, the classics are good, but there is some great new books out there Theoriest or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralo Posted April 9, 2007 Share Posted April 9, 2007 everyone should read Marx, once you understasnd communism it makes so much more sense than any other system. To bad it would never work.Nice recovery . . . I was gonna ask Jeebus to slap you on principle alone. j/k Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
editor Posted April 9, 2007 Share Posted April 9, 2007 Nice recovery . . . I was gonna ask Jeebus to slap you on principle alone. j/kI picked up a little book of Mao's famous quotes when I was in China. Never got around to reading it, though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgreco Posted April 9, 2007 Share Posted April 9, 2007 Nice recovery . . . I was gonna ask Jeebus to slap you on principle alone. j/klol, honestly if we weren't so rooted in heiracrhial societies and now capitalism, I think if we started out as socialist, and then moved towards communism it could possible work... but we are to embedded with personal gain, socioeconomic status etc... to even see a system liek that working.. To many it just doesn't even sound like it could possible make sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralo Posted April 9, 2007 Share Posted April 9, 2007 lol, honestly if we weren't so rooted in heiracrhial societies and now capitalism, I think if we started out as socialist, and then moved towards communism it could possible work... but we are to embedded with personal gain, socioeconomic status etc... to even see a system liek that working.. To many it just doesn't even sound like it could possible make sense.I think it is a hard sell but I will agree that socialism, on paper, can sometimes sounds appealing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgreco Posted April 9, 2007 Share Posted April 9, 2007 I think it is a hard sell but I will agree that socialism, on paper, can sometimes sounds appealing.thats the thing, on paper a lot of things sound great, just sometimes they don't work. I also think we have a hard time to understand things such as communism and socialism, because of our past. With the Red Scare and all the failed attempts of both systems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sevfiv Posted April 30, 2007 Share Posted April 30, 2007 (edited) NPR did a story on this book a couple weeks ago, and it is a great read:Richard Nickel's Chicago: A Lost Cityhttp://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.p...ft=1&f=1047http://cityfilespress.com/Architecture photographer Richard Nickel spent years with his camera, documenting Edited April 30, 2007 by sevfiv 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subdude Posted October 28, 2007 Share Posted October 28, 2007 Some recent reads: A Short History of Tractors in Ukrainian - Marina Lewycka A Moveable Feast: Ten Millenia of Food Globalization - Kenneth Kiple Amsterdam - Ian McEwan (a quick read but worth it) The Black Swan - Nassim Taleb (the likelihood of statistically unlikely events) Imperial Life in the Emerald City - Rajiv Chandrasekaran Rites of Peace - Adam Zamoyski (all about the Congress of Vienna) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricco67 Posted October 28, 2007 Share Posted October 28, 2007 Recently I have just finished reading "740 Park" by Gross (I forgot the first name and gave the book away).It gives the history of the Luxury apartment Building located in New New York that was built at the beginning of the great depression as well as some of the eccentric (or rather philandering) characters that have lived in that building. It's a bit of an eye opener, actually. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subdude Posted August 27, 2008 Share Posted August 27, 2008 Has anyone read this one? Any thoughts? I figure with all the interest in the transportation topics someone must have picked it up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
infinite_jim Posted October 13, 2008 Share Posted October 13, 2008 After the City by Lars Lerup 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricco67 Posted October 13, 2008 Share Posted October 13, 2008 One of the last books that I thought was a good read was "Lone Survivor" by Marcus Luttrell of his survival of a SEAL operation (Operation Redwing) gone bad. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subdude Posted October 13, 2008 Share Posted October 13, 2008 Just finished: Brideshead RevisitedCurrent read: Diamonds Are ForeverIn the queue: Pompeii, The Life of a Roman Town, Millennium, Tess of the D'Urbervilles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bachanon Posted October 14, 2008 Share Posted October 14, 2008 just started "The Emperor's Handbook: A New Translation of The Meditations" by Marcus Aurelius 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highrise Tower Posted May 26 Share Posted May 26 Just ordered this as a gift. Sounds really good. https://www.amazon.com/Savushun-Novel-Modern-Persian-Classics/dp/0934211310 Savushun (pronounced "sa-voo-shoon") is a folk tradition, surviving in Southern Iran from an undateable pre-islamic past, that conjures hope in spite of everything. The novel chronicles the life of a Persian family during the World War II Allied occupation of Iran. It is set in Shiraz, a town which evokes images of Persepolis and pre-islamic monuments, the great Persian poets, the shrines, sufis and nomadic tribes all within a historical web of the interests, privilege and influence of foreign powers, corruption, incompetence and arrogance of persons in authority. The story is seen through the eyes of Zari, a young wife, and mother, who copes with her idealistic husband while struggling with her desire for traditional family life and her need for an individual identity. simin daneshvar lives and continues to write in Iran. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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