j_cuevas713 Posted July 1, 2023 Share Posted July 1, 2023 Anyone know what’s happening here? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avossos Posted July 2, 2023 Share Posted July 2, 2023 Where is this and what is “courthouse district” I hope that name is slang, because I feel like that sound’s unappetizing . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IntheKnowHouston Posted July 2, 2023 Share Posted July 2, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, Avossos said: Where is this and what is “courthouse district” I hope that name is slang, because I feel like that sound’s unappetizing . The parcel is 1117 Franklin St. It's in downtown Houston's Harris County District. Below is a diagram of downtown's districts from Downtown Houston's website. https://www.downtownhouston.org/districts/ Edited July 2, 2023 by IntheKnowHouston Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IntheKnowHouston Posted July 2, 2023 Share Posted July 2, 2023 (edited) Below is a map of 1117 Franklin St (parcel address). The 1117 Franklin St parcel is approximately 1.44 acres. The block is bounded by Franklin St, San Jacinto St, Commerce St, and Fannin St. Located on the property is the Coffee Pot Building at 102 San Jacinto St (I think this was also the Gordon, Sewall, & Co. Building). Also on the property is the Lomas Nettleton Garage at 119 Fannin St and the Reef Parking Garage at 1103 Franklin St. Edited July 2, 2023 by IntheKnowHouston Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IntheKnowHouston Posted July 2, 2023 Share Posted July 2, 2023 (edited) Below is the parcel map of 1117 Franklin St. Below is the 1117 Franklin St parcel map with street addresses included. Located on the property is the Coffee Pot Building at 102 San Jacinto St (I think this is/was also the Gordon, Sewall, & Co. Building?... I'm not for certain). Also on the property is the Lomas Nettleton Garage at 119 Fannin St and the Reef Parking Garage at 1103 Franklin St. Edited July 2, 2023 by IntheKnowHouston Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IntheKnowHouston Posted July 2, 2023 Share Posted July 2, 2023 Below is a 2023 Goggle Earth image of 1117 Franklin St. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IntheKnowHouston Posted July 2, 2023 Share Posted July 2, 2023 According to county records, a plat for the 1117 Franklin St parcel was submitted in 2021. The plat's subdivision name is Zapp Plaza. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IntheKnowHouston Posted July 2, 2023 Share Posted July 2, 2023 January 2023 Street View of Franklin St and San Jacinto St January 2023 Street View of 102 San Jacinto St January 2023 Street of 102 San Jacinto St at Commerce St Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IntheKnowHouston Posted July 2, 2023 Share Posted July 2, 2023 January 2023 Street View of Commerce St January 2023 Street View of Commerce St and Fannin St Street View of Fannin St Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IntheKnowHouston Posted July 2, 2023 Share Posted July 2, 2023 January 2023 Street View of Fannin St and Franklin St January 2023 Street View of Franklin St Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IntheKnowHouston Posted July 2, 2023 Share Posted July 2, 2023 15 hours ago, j_cuevas713 said: Anyone know what’s happening here? There's a comment from 2019 that answers your question: On 11/9/2019 at 4:03 PM, Ross said: I think the County plans to demo the Lomas & Nettleton garage at 119 Fannin and the Coffee Pot Building at 102 San Jacinto. At least that's what I am thinking after perusing this 2011 list of County owned property https://agenda.harriscountytx.gov/2011/06-21-11CIP-FY 2011-12 Web/06-21-11 CIP-FY 2011-12 06-Buildings.pdf https://www.houstonarchitecture.com/haif/topic/13195-franklin-lofts/?do=findComment&comment=606763 Also, there's this bid information pertaining to the demolition of the Coffee Pot Building and Lomas Nettleton Parking Garage at 1117 Franklin Street (for the Harris County Office of the County Engineer): https://www.bidnet.com/closed-government-contracts/csp---demolition-of-the-coffee-pot-building-and-lomas-nettleton-parking-garage-at-1117-franklin-street-for-the-harris-county-office-of-the-county-engineer--estimated-budget----2-827-792-?itemId=814782192 There's more information in the last two PDF files on the bid site. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IntheKnowHouston Posted July 2, 2023 Share Posted July 2, 2023 34 minutes ago, IntheKnowHouston said: There's a comment from 2019 that answers your question: https://www.houstonarchitecture.com/haif/topic/13195-franklin-lofts/?do=findComment&comment=606763 Also, there's this bid information pertaining to the demolition of the Coffee Pot Building and Lomas Nettleton Parking Garage at 1117 Franklin Street (for the Harris County Office of the County Engineer): https://www.bidnet.com/closed-government-contracts/csp---demolition-of-the-coffee-pot-building-and-lomas-nettleton-parking-garage-at-1117-franklin-street-for-the-harris-county-office-of-the-county-engineer--estimated-budget----2-827-792-?itemId=814782192 There's more information in the last two PDF files on the bid site. Demo plan for 1117 Franklin St included on Bidnet: 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_cuevas713 Posted July 2, 2023 Author Share Posted July 2, 2023 Welp that’s unfortunate. Are there plans to build something in it’s place or is this going to be another parking lot? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IntheKnowHouston Posted July 3, 2023 Share Posted July 3, 2023 14 hours ago, j_cuevas713 said: Are there plans to build something in it’s place or is this going to be another parking lot? I don't know. Did you read any of the PDF files from the provided link above? Maybe those files contains answers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brooklyn173 Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 (edited) The link will eventually get you to a document that is 12 years old, but it seems that the default use for Houston (parking lot) will win again. BUILDINGS TO BE RAZED • 1301 Franklin Jail – Court approved a request to raze this facility, and has charged PID with coordinating the relocation of the building’s two occupants, the HCSO occupies floors 1 – 2 and the District Clerk’s Office “mothballed” imaging project is located on floors 5 - 8. The estimated cost to raze the facility is $6.5M. • Coffee Pot Building / Fannin Garage – PID has obtained a cost estimate to raze the Coffee Pot Building / Fannin Parking Garage block (102 San Jacinto) and convert the site into a parking lot. Estimate $2.2M. Construction and/or purchase of a warehouse to relocate the contents of this facility will initially need to occur. • DA Building – As part of the Harris County Downtown Master Plan, this facility is scheduled to be razed and become a surface parking lot. Preliminary discussions with the County’s historical building consultant indicate that razing this facility might prove difficult. PID will further evaluate this project and make a recommendation to Court. Estimate $1.2M. • Family Law Center – PID has obtained a cost estimate to raze the Family Law Center and construct a surface parking lot, after a new Family Law Center has been constructed. Estimate $2.2M • Hogan Allnoch – PID appraised this facility at $2.44M, and subsequently attempted to sell the facility through three public auctions with no success. PID requests Court approval to raze the facility and convert it into a surface parking lot. Estimate $1.0M. Edited July 4, 2023 by Brooklyn173 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IntheKnowHouston Posted July 5, 2023 Share Posted July 5, 2023 15 hours ago, Brooklyn173 said: The link will eventually get you to a document that is 12 years old, but it seems that the default use for Houston (parking lot) will win again. That's true for the link @Ross provided in his comment from 2019. However, the Bidnet link I provided above in the same comment I quoted Ross is more recent. The documents have a 2022 date. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CREguy13 Posted July 5, 2023 Share Posted July 5, 2023 If I recall correctly, when Harris County made the decision to consolidate all or nearly all of its operations into 1111 Fannin, it was going to free up its wned and leased facilities that were relocating from this area, including several full-block and partial block sites, for private development. No knowledge of what's happening here, but my hope and assumption is the process is starting to ready these sites for future development. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_cuevas713 Posted July 5, 2023 Author Share Posted July 5, 2023 Losing the old Houston Post building, Hogan Allnoch building, and the old DA building still breaks my heart. Not to mention the demolished buildings behind the Lancaster Hotel. The old Incarnate Word and old Sacred Heart as well. So much potential for all of those buildings. We have saved quite a few buildings as well but it just sucks how much potential those buildings all had to add to the vibrancy of downtown. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hindesky Posted August 4, 2023 Share Posted August 4, 2023 The whole block is fenced off, including a lane on 2 sides. Demolition equipment is on site just waiting for the permits. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triton Posted August 4, 2023 Share Posted August 4, 2023 I remember that parking garage used to house old cars in it in the 90s. Anyone have photos of that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hindesky Posted August 5, 2023 Share Posted August 5, 2023 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hindesky Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 Demolition permit. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hindesky Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
urbanize713 Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 Another ugly garage gone! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLWM8609 Posted August 15, 2023 Share Posted August 15, 2023 What will ultimately replace the coffee pot building? I work at the county and some of my coworkers say a dog park is coming, but I doubt that. The Plan Downtown Report from 2017 recommends developing a North Downtown Transit Center at that location, but I haven't seen any concrete plans either way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hindesky Posted August 15, 2023 Share Posted August 15, 2023 Harris County owns the property and the sign on the project specifies "Another Harris County Project". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLWM8609 Posted August 15, 2023 Share Posted August 15, 2023 1 hour ago, hindesky said: Harris County owns the property and the sign on the project specifies "Another Harris County Project". The project that the sign is referring to is the demolition itself Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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j_cuevas713 Posted August 25, 2023 Author Share Posted August 25, 2023 (edited) My barber has some pics of Houston when all of these smaller buildings were still around and it makes we wonder how much nicer Downtown could have been had developers and the city been more considerate of it's history. Downtown was littered with small little brick buildings with ornate features. While a lot has been saved since then, there is still so much that has been lost. This one along with the old original city hall were absolute gems. Edited August 25, 2023 by j_cuevas713 7 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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