Hollywood Dinner Club At 6102 Avenue S.

[gto250us]

what's the source? just curious.

this was my favorite part:

"Tilman Fertitta began his entrepreneurial career in Houston in the

1970s, engaging in a series of businesses that have traditionally been popular with

racketeers: pornography and adult bookstores, coin-operated video games, and

construction.7 Fertitta lived high on the hog, running up bank loans of over $10 million,

and then weaseling out of them after the mob-driven S&L scandal led to widespread bank

failures. This happy circumstance allowed Fertitta to pay back only pennies on the dollar

to the federal taxpayers who insured the banks’ depositors. “Thank God the banks

failed,” Fertitta once gushed, a remarkable comment indeed from a man who had once sat

on the board of a failed S&L."

http://hal.lamar.edu/~BROWNTF/lecture-notes-OC-pt2.pdf

[sevfiv]

http://hal.lamar.edu/~BROWNTF/lecture-notes-OC-pt2.pdf

ah thanks - a professor of sociology at Lamar

he also seems to have several other interesting research projects going on

[gto250us]

ah thanks - a professor of sociology at Lamar

he also seems to have several other interesting research projects going on

I wonder if he got a bad meal at Landry's once.

[J.A.S.O.N.]

I grew up with the knowledge that the "mob" was in town, but I had no idea this family was throwing this much weight around!

"Al Capone sent his main man Frank Nitti to Galveston to intimidate the Maceos into allowing Capone to "invest" in their businesses. The Maceos received word of Nitti's impending arrival and they decided that they would flat-out refuse any offers from Nitti on behalf of Capone to take a piece of their illegal gambling pie.

They decided to call on the skills of the most ruthless member of their family's gang, Maceo In-Law, Anthony Fertitta. Nitti arrived in town and was introduced to the Maceos and to Anthony Fertitta, Fertitta told Nitti that they needed to talk and he took Nitti for a drive in his car. The two men were gone for several hours and it is not clear what events took place during that time. All that is known is that Nitti was dropped at the city limits very late that evening, he appeared to be shaken but alive and well. No one knows what took place during the car ride but when Nitti made it back to Chicago, he told Capone that the Fertittas were no pushovers and it would require an all out war to move in on their territory. Capone never pursued it any further."

[MidtownCoog]

I think this "story" gets bigger every time I read it.

A tall tale, getting taller by the year.

[sevfiv]

but it is so entertaining!

and it provides another reason to dislike (or like even more) the fertittas

[MidtownCoog]

Great, Great Grandpa Feritta was the Allen Brother's bookie.

[cabanaboy]

Everytime I see Tillman's convention center on the seawall, I can't help but think that it just looks like a casino. According to an islander that I met recently, the convention center has already been wired for slot machines.

Now that Tillman has officially taken over the Golden Nugget in Las Vegas, how long will it be before Texas allows him to open his casino here? Do you think it's possible?

I have heard the same.

[TAK]

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/headli...ro/4611406.html

it's alive again...

Legislation would legalize casinos and slots in Texas

Senators say gambling could help fund college financial aid programs

By PEGGY FIKAC

Copyright 2007 Houston Chronicle Austin Bureau

AUSTIN

[TJones]

Our legislature was voting on it today, and last I heard the margins were like 62% yea, to 38% nay. So, I hope it will pass, i have been at work all day, and haven't bothered to look it up.

[RedScare]

Our legislature was voting on it today, and last I heard the margins were like 62% yea, to 38% nay. So, I hope it will pass, i have been at work all day, and haven't bothered to look it up.

Where did you hear they are voting today? Everything I have read just says the two legislators discussed the bill in a news conference today.

[houstonfella]

Where did you hear they are voting today? Everything I have read just says the two legislators discussed the bill in a news conference today.

Red is correct. No voting. Just B.S. in the legislature of Tx. Who cares, just give us some video poker and slot machines and Texas Hold 'em. Or would the Lord take us into oblivion if we gambled in Texas???? I think not.

[TJones]

Where did you hear they are voting today? Everything I have read just says the two legislators discussed the bill in a news conference today.

Michael Berry was talking about it day before yesterday on 950am, I swear he gave those numbers. Unless I was hearing things and he was pulling my leg.

If I mistyped I apologize, I know I heard him say it though.

HA HA, the light bulb just came on over my head. He obviously was doing his own polling of listeners, but I know he stated it was the Tx. legislature doing the voting.

[shinoda28107]

just what louisiana needs....more damage to their economy. texans make up almost 60% of west louisiana casino customers. but it helps us out plenty.....for those who feared the Maimification of Galveston in the past....have a lot more to worry about now. i know that texas gambling is iminent.

[houstonfella]

just what louisiana needs....more damage to their economy. texans make up almost 60% of west louisiana casino customers. but it helps us out plenty.....for those who feared the Maimification of Galveston in the past....have a lot more to worry about now. i know that texas gambling is iminent.

Actually, I remember when gambling hit Louisiana. The casinos keep the Shreveport-Bossier area quite busy. They provide jobs that wouldn't otherwise be there, and Texans, particularly Metroplexers, stay in the hotels and dine in their restaurants. Video poker is throughout Louisiana providing the same. Yes, there are people who are "gambleholics" but you can't do anything about that. There are people like me who enjoy playing every now and again ... not using my rent money so to speak, but putting a couple of hundred bucks in my wallet and spending it on gambling entertainment. I don't thinking gambling in Texas would be nearly the horrible picture that is being painted. But, of course, everything comes with a price.

[plumber2]

Gambling would be a bad for most folks who live in Galveston. Property values and rents would go up. Only the landowners would benifit from this type of activity. Most of the hospitality workers would have to drive in from lower rent neighborhoods on the mainland.

I think Tilman bought the two pieces of Seawall property, The Seahorse and The Moody Civic Center, just so he could gleefully tear down former Moody family structures. Fertitta doesn't partner well with anyone, so George Mitchell should be forwarned.

A friend of mine that has an interest in the old Falstaff Brewery buildings approached Tilman Fertitta about a partnership. He was told that Tilman was interested in the property but that under no circumstances would he consider a partnership. Tilman only works alone.

[bruno]

How funny the game is call Texas Hold them but its illegal to gamble in Texas?

[moni]

Red is correct. No voting. Just B.S. in the legislature of Tx. Who cares, just give us some video poker and slot machines and Texas Hold 'em. Or would the Lord take us into oblivion if we gambled in Texas???? I think not.

This would be the best thing that ever happened as far as Galveston is concerned. A "Tourist Destination" needs to have something as a draw card, and gambling is the ticket. Also, can you even imagine the amount of money this would generate for the city of Houston?? Hey, what have you all got against making money???

[TAK]

Also, can you even imagine the amount of money this would generate for the city of Houston?? Hey, what have you all got against making money???

Money generated for whom? The people who live in Galveston wouldn't "get" anything accept a higher tax bill as property valuations rose.

If I already lived in Galveston, I'd be against it. As a potential (small) investor in Galveston, I'm not against it, and am sorta-kinda looking forward to it as something else to "do" in Galveston. Even though I don't gamble much.

[lwood]

Money generated for whom? The people who live in Galveston wouldn't "get" anything accept a higher tax bill as property valuations rose.

If I already lived in Galveston, I'd be against it. As a potential (small) investor in Galveston, I'm not against it, and am sorta-kinda looking forward to it as something else to "do" in Galveston. Even though I don't gamble much.

Money generated for people in Galveston who get jobs. Being from the Lake Charles area I can attest to the positive impact that gambling had on that area. Lake Charles is the one that will suffer when gambling comes to Texas.

[aslowdodge]

Money generated for people in Galveston who get jobs. Being from the Lake Charles area I can attest to the positive impact that gambling had on that area. Lake Charles is the one that will suffer when gambling comes to Texas.

Well it seems like gambling is a pretty good source of revenue and an important part of the economy in Biloxi. When Rita took out most of the casinos they said they would not rebuild unless the law could be changed to let them build on land. The fact that an exception was made for them shows the value of the casinos. I hardley ever heard about Biloxi before the casinos except for the movie "Biloxi Blues".

Some people say it would bring in only low paying jobs. I can't see the hundreds of jobs being provided being that low. I am sure there are lots of lower paying jobs in galveston now and a lot of people would jump to earn what a casino pays.

I agree property taxes could go up if property values skyrocket.

[moni]

Money generated for whom? The people who live in Galveston wouldn't "get" anything accept a higher tax bill as property valuations rose.

If I already lived in Galveston, I'd be against it. As a potential (small) investor in Galveston, I'm not against it, and am sorta-kinda looking forward to it as something else to "do" in Galveston. Even though I don't gamble much.

More people coming in as tourists always brings more money to a community. I knew Las Vegas when there was a couple of little restaurants with slots and some run down bars. People who haven't spent any time there may not realize the luxury of the hotels and resorts. Beautiful places, with imported marble, art work and fountains. It is not just glitz. Also, jobs are the real opportunity for the residents of Galveston. Casinos have changed many lives for the people of Mississippi who had nothing to look forward to but a poor rural economy. People traveling to Galveston would stop and spend time in Houston and further more, the chances of Trump building a nice tower in Houston would certainly improve with Casinos in Galveston. I cannot imagine anyone not wanting a Casino in their town. They are lots of fun, bright lights, cheap entertainment and nice hotels, all rolled into one. And, nobody has to go to them if they don't want to.

Maybe it is a cultural thing, a bible-belt thing, I don't know. I only know it is very near sighted.

[J.A.S.O.N.]

More people coming in as tourists always brings more money to a community. I knew Las Vegas when there was a couple of little restaurants with slots and some run down bars. People who haven't spent any time there may not realize the luxury of the hotels and resorts. Beautiful places, with imported marble, art work and fountains. It is not just glitz. Also, jobs are the real opportunity for the residents of Galveston. Casinos have changed many lives for the people of Mississippi who had nothing to look forward to but a poor rural economy. People traveling to Galveston would stop and spend time in Houston and further more, the chances of Trump building a nice tower in Houston would certainly improve with Casinos in Galveston. I cannot imagine anyone not wanting a Casino in their town. They are lots of fun, bright lights, cheap entertainment and nice hotels, all rolled into one. And, nobody has to go to them if they don't want to.

Maybe it is a cultural thing, a bible-belt thing, I don't know. I only know it is very near sighted.

Western Louisiana will suffer immensely, from Shreveport down to Lake Charles. I sometimes feel guilty just thinking about it.

[PalinPower]

I live in Galveston and can not wait for the day we have nice, luxurious casinos!

We need help to revive this town after IKE. Galveston as a gambling town would be a HUGE success.. no questions asked. Vegas and other casino towns would hurt from this.

I can remember when coushatta opened. I quit paying for airfare to Vegas and used that as my play money at Coushatta. With Houston one of the largest growing cities in the world, it would be a huge mistake not to move forward on this motion. However you will have to put a cattle prod to perry and hutchinson to get off the couch.(I believe they are both against it.. not 100%) (god forbid 55 gets reinstated)... TBH I have been looking for property elsewhere....and selling... this however has sparked my interest.. so thats another thing for them too consider.. keeping residents here. WE also Need a Pappasiitos and Pappadeaux!!!! YUMMY... anyway thats my opinion.

ps..

(thats if BO doesnt ruin it for us all)

[RedScare]

Last time I checked, it wasn't Democrats that vote down casinos.

...and Africa is a continent.

[Talbot]

Last time I checked, it wasn't Democrats that vote down casinos.

...and Africa is a continent.

Exactly what I was thinking. I don't think you have to worry about the democrats ruining your gambling dreams.

[TexasVines]

Texas doesn't need gambling that is a "give up" industry when you have nothing else to offer....the gambling pie is already cut into too few pieces as it is and if one looks behind the flashy casinos you will see it really does ZERO for the vast majority of the community

Shreveport is still a hell hole out side the casinos.....same with Atlantic City....Vegas is a HORRIBLE place to actually live with drunk drivers 24-7 and prostitutes and every other form of street freak imaginable all over the place and a horribly over blown economy that has taken unaffordable to a new level

Texas will also never allow the 24-7 bars and clubs (which would cut down on the 24-7 drunks) but would also cut down on the real profitability of a casino

if you want Galveston to become an over priced place with a facade of grandeur covering over the lowlifes of society and a place where families would not take their kids ever then you want casinos.....if you prefer to keep the 24-7 lifestyle and all the addictions and crime it brings somewhere else then let gambling stay in other places

last I checked Galveston was not doing too bad and the only reason it can't do much better is because it is a small island with a tourist economy and the low paying part time seasonal jobs that brings for the full time residences.....if you want to create more of those jobs and in turn attract more of the type of people that take those jobs (who will be priced off of living on the actual island and will trash the nearby mainland areas) then casino gambling is what you want

I have nothing against gambling at all, but I used to say that going to Shreveport or where ever did nothing for me because it did not have all the cheap quality eating options, and the shows, and the comps, and the drinks like Vegas has.....now that Vegas has killed the cheap quality buffet and the show comps ect. (unless you lose thousands or happen to win thousands and they want you to stay until you lose) Vegas really does nothing for me as well.....in fact I think a better Vegas vacation would be going there and actually just putting in the effort to do all the free pulls, and the free hands of blackjack, and the few cheap buffets and other eating options....paying for a few of the shows and avoiding the casinos all together except to get the few freebies and them immediately leave them

If you think casinos will do anything for the locals or for the economy you are clueless and if you need to gamble so bad that you want to go a few miles down the road where there are few if any perks for having your money methodically taken from you then you need help and you are easily blinded to reality by neon and bling and you can do us all a favor by moving to some place that bling has already trashed

[PalinPower]

NOT to be disrepectful.. or anything other than to merely point out.. You didnt read my post.. sorta like BO supportors dont read about his terrorism ties throughout the world. a classic example...

pfft.....I said Hutchinson & maybe perry??? were not supportive of GAMBLING IN TEXAS!!

I never said DEM or REP LOLOLOL so this is just one simple example of how main stream media know it alls screw it all up. From idiotic comments like this they influence the poor,filthy people that cant get a job...but will flock to that side..on dreams .. I am sorry I put my 2 cents in here.. and you a more than welcome to kick me from your community that is once again clueless.... OMG I know the real vegas type people like trump,fertitta and the likes can see thru this BS.. maybe the POOR cant, or etc..

UNREAL!

as far as the other points.. gALVESTON COULD BE bigger THAN vegas@ A MOMMENTS NOTICE!!!!

SAD SAD SAD

Last time I checked, it wasn't Democrats that vote down casinos.

DUH IT WAS HUTCHINSON.. BLAH BLAH BLAH

...and Africa is a continent.

[RedScare]

Thank you for your comments, Carribou Barbie. Hugs and kisses to Donald and Tilman for me.

Toodles.

[Jeebus]

However you will have to put a cattle prod to perry and hutchinson to get off the couch.

Last time I checked, it wasn't Democrats that vote down casinos.

Last time I checked, both Perry and Hutchinson were Republican. So what exactly was the point of your rebuttal Red? Too blinded by the poster's political affiliation to actually read the content of their post?