SilverJK Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 I love how you say there is nothing to do in shrevport after you leave the casino. There are a bunch of clubs/bars that stay open until 4-6am everyday in Shreveport. What do you want them to have... a late night museum of natural science? Please tell me that you didn't get out of the casino at like 3PM or something. There are plenty of table games in the Shreveport casinos. I do agree that the truckstop video poker/slot machine places are rediculous, as well as the giant slotmachine/video poker Mecca inside the Louisiana Downs. That is why I like the casino's in shreveport, they have the right feel(lots of table games, wild craps tables, free drinks, tradition cocktail waitresses). They also have good entertainment come in on a regular basis. btw, Last time i was in shrevport i went to El Dorado and they have a whole section now devoted to poker (mostly Texas Hold Em')I really like this form of gambling (the casino gets there money from the rake). The rake wasn't even high (i was playing 2/5 no limit and it max'd out at $2-3) The casinos aren't very involved in having the slot machines and video poker in gas staitions and similar establishments, that would be the gas stations themselves and a gaming software/hardware company. While they might literally be losers in the since of losing at the games of video poker or slots, is it really necessary to generalize all truck drivers and others who go to the truck stop video poker places as "losers". Just because you don't like the places or that the people there aren't as wealthy or smart as you doesn't make you better than them. Jeebus... What i mean about opening casinos in galveston like shreveport's is a full service casino, with the right feel (as mentioned above). Entertainment venues and restaurants connected to the casino. Also having nice atriums, art, etc. I feel that something like that could bring a lot of positive things to the island. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasVines Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 I don't think truck drivers are losers at all and I also don't think many truck drivers are the ones going into those casinos and I think most probably find them annoying....any decent truck driver is either driving, using his down time to rest Vs. giving his money away, or back home with his/her family there are currently a bunch of clubs and bars in Galveston that stay open as late as the law allows.....and why would I want to go to a club or a bar after sitting in a casino all day......call me crazy, but some people see life as more than a chance to hit the casino and then a bar or a club afterwards I have worked in the beverage industry in the past, but even then I would hardly call bar and club hopping "something to do" in the sense of a change of pace from a casino or anything that will really attract people in mass and I have been out plenty to times even all night, but that does not mean that is ALL I look to do when I visit somewhere.....really if hitting some late night bars and clubs after sitting in a casino all day is the best you can offer up about what there is to do in Shreveport besides gamble I think you have helped prove my point Vs. disprove it......I mean maybe if you had mentioned they have a 24 hour Waffle House or an IHOP I might be on board with you ok how about instead of losers I call them mathematically challenged people that are suckers for giving money away at a "travel plaza" it is just like the one liner games that sadly have moved into Texas......even those that get a prize over and above the value of the money they put in have never looked to be "winners" to me and they are never located in any area that I would want Galveston to remotely resemble Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeebus Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 Jeebus...What i mean about opening casinos in galveston like shreveport's is a full service casino, with the right feel (as mentioned above). Entertainment venues and restaurants connected to the casino. Also having nice atriums, art, etc. I feel that something like that could bring a lot of positive things to the island.All four casinos in the Lake Charles area offer exactly that now. Lau Berge du Lac, Isle of Capri, Coushatta, and even Delta Down's slot machine casino has been styled to mimic the Vegas experience. I've been to both Shreveport and Lake Charles to gamble in the last three years and I would rate them both the same in terms of quality of facilities and gaming. Where Shreveport has the edge is that all the casinos are together, where the Lake Charles casinos are more resort like due to their distance apart.But that's all a moot point, as this is about getting quality gaming on Galveston Island. Responsible legislation could allow for a great experience on the island.there are currently a bunch of clubs and bars in Galveston that stay open as late as the law allows.....and why would I want to go to a club or a bar after sitting in a casino all day......call me crazy, but some people see life as more than a chance to hit the casino and then a bar or a club afterwardseven then I would hardly call bar and club hopping "something to do" in the sense of a change of pace from a casino or anything that will really attract people in mass and I have been out plenty to times even all night, but that does not mean that is ALL I look to do when I visit somewhere.....really if hitting some late night bars and clubs after sitting in a casino all day is the best you can offer up about what there is to do in Shreveport besides gamble I think you have helped prove my point Vs. disprove it......I mean maybe if you had mentioned they have a 24 hour Waffle House or an IHOP I might be on board with youYou talk in circles. So what is it you would like to have as variety in conjunction with casinos? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasVines Posted November 21, 2008 Share Posted November 21, 2008 All four casinos in the Lake Charles area offer exactly that now. Lau Berge du Lac, Isle of Capri, Coushatta, and even Delta Down's slot machine casino has been styled to mimic the Vegas experience. I've been to both Shreveport and Lake Charles to gamble in the last three years and I would rate them both the same in terms of quality of facilities and gaming. Where Shreveport has the edge is that all the casinos are together, where the Lake Charles casinos are more resort like due to their distance apart.But that's all a moot point, as this is about getting quality gaming on Galveston Island. Responsible legislation could allow for a great experience on the island.You talk in circles. So what is it you would like to have as variety in conjunction with casinos?I don't want anyting for Galveston in conjunction with casinos....I would prefer for Galveston to stick with the beach, the Strand, catering to families, Boaters as another forum member mentioned, Cruise ships, water parks, Marine Life Education, Fishing, ect.......there is nothing to do with casinos that I am interested in for Galveston Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
memebag Posted November 21, 2008 Share Posted November 21, 2008 I don't care if Galveston has casinos. I don't really get them. If you want to gamble, call up some friends and play cards. Or bet on House Hunters. The odds are way better, and you get to do it with people you like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeebus Posted November 21, 2008 Share Posted November 21, 2008 I don't want anyting for Galveston in conjunction with casinos....I would prefer for Galveston to stick with the beach, the Strand, catering to families, Boaters as another forum member mentioned, Cruise ships, water parks, Marine Life Education, Fishing, ect.......there is nothing to do with casinos that I am interested in for GalvestonNooooo... you keep complaining that you get bored when gambling and that you want something to do outside of the casino. What is it exactly that you like to do when not gambling - when you are staying at a casino, or a casino town SPECIFICALLY? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasVines Posted November 21, 2008 Share Posted November 21, 2008 Nooooo... you keep complaining that you get bored when gambling and that you want something to do outside of the casino. What is it exactly that you like to do when not gambling - when you are staying at a casino, or a casino town SPECIFICALLY?there is only one place I would go to with casino gambling in mind in the USA and that would be Vegas and as already stated I would probably spend less time in the casinos and more time going to shows (many of which are now over priced which decreases their appeal), looking at the architecture, searching out the few remaining bargins like free pulls, free hands, betting credits, and the inexpensive HIGHER QUALITY dining and or the almost free decent food....if I could get on a nice course for a good price I might hit some golf....I would spend a day at lake Mead possibly rent a house boat, visit Hoover Dameven then much of that I can do somewhere else like Houston....I have no real interest in shopping I have seen plenty of malls, but Vegas now might have some shops Houston does not.....Houston has plenty of top golf courses....but if I can get a deal in Vegas then good.....Texas has lakes, but only a couple close to Meads size and none with the features except maybe Possum Kingdom and nothing like Hoover Dam even though I have seen itso there is nothing Shreveport or many othe gambling places can offer me that I can't do right in Houston every day....when I go to Galveston I go to the beach.....no desire for a casino......I go to take in a cool night breeze at a beach house with calm and quite not loud clanging and second hand smoke....I go to shoot some fireworks in an area that won't burn up.....or to surf fish or skimboard or kite sail and kite buggie....probably anything but lock myself in a windowless room and watch my money go away Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverJK Posted November 23, 2008 Share Posted November 23, 2008 you could be an extra in a movie in shreveport. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.A.S.O.N. Posted December 6, 2008 Share Posted December 6, 2008 01:00 PM in Galveston Wanna bet? Readers vote for gambling By Heber Taylor | Permalink | Comments (27) An online poll of Daily News readers showed that four out of five believe casino gambling should be a part of Galveston Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
69Chevy Posted December 8, 2008 Share Posted December 8, 2008 The GDN poll was a joke. You could vote as many times as you wanted. The paper and it's editor have been pushing gambling for years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
houstonfella Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 If Texas legalized casino gambling, then I think Galveston would be the prime destination. On the upside, casinos create jobs. Galvestonians need jobs in the worst way. Do I think Texas will legalize gambling? Probably not. Can you say religious right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasVines Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 If Texas legalized casino gambling, then I think Galveston would be the prime destination. On the upside, casinos create jobs. Galvestonians need jobs in the worst way. Do I think Texas will legalize gambling? Probably not. Can you say religious right?in case you just awoke from a coma most major casino companies are struggling right now or going broke and few if any are building anything new for long term future.....the industry is mature and picking itself apart with every new state that passes gamblingfar from religious right can you say short term, lack of vision, mature non-growing industry, and extremely unstable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeebus Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 in case you just awoke from a coma most major casino companies are struggling right now or going broke and few if any are building anything new for long term future.....the industry is mature and picking itself apart with every new state that passes gamblingThis has been your mantra from your first post in this thread. Do you have any proof that casino companies are struggling right now, or going broke? Can you provide and proof that "few if any" are building anything new for the long term future? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasVines Posted December 11, 2008 Share Posted December 11, 2008 This has been your mantra from your first post in this thread. Do you have any proof that casino companies are struggling right now, or going broke? Can you provide and proof that "few if any" are building anything new for the long term future?well besides the previously mentioned two time bankruptcy of the New Orleans casinos.....and the closing of several Louisiana casino boats....and the fact that the casinos in Mississippi were going to leave Mississippi high and dry after Katrina unless they received tax breaks (talk about kicking someone when they are down)http://www.casinocitytimes.com/news/articl...ontentid=176076http://www.northjersey.com/business/news/35273039.html ....specifically mentions competition with others for dollars as the reason for a two straight year drop.....I don't see kicking my direct neighbors like Louisiana as a way for Texas to gain....I see it as short sighted and stupid and a give up mentalityhttp://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/...ng-casinos.html ....again we see New Jersey cares about the "health of people"....right up and until it hurts tax revenues....this is the kind of ignorance that casinos bring....short term tax grabs by idiot politicians......I hear the high taxes on cigarettes have actually lowered tax revenues on cigarettes all across the USA......I thought politicians said that was the goal.....to lower smoking....but then they were all "shocked...shocked I tell you" when the high taxes they were counting did not materialize.....so much for putting your faith in what short term idiots thinkhttp://biz.yahoo.com/indie/081210/1586_id.html?.v=1once a favorite among analysts and investors alike for its ambitious expansion into the lucrative Macau market, has had to cut its plans back substantiallyhttp://www.casinogamblingweb.com/gambling-...sino_48647.htmlhttp://www.southcoasttoday.com/apps/pbcs.d.../NEWS/709300361"A lot of people think this is a gold mine," owner Scott Hunter says of his small grocery and convenience store in sleepy Preston, Conn., roughly midway between Foxwoods and Mohegan Sun, "but it's not."But the visitors who make the casinos their playgrounds don't often stop at the little eateries or shops along the roads of Ledyard, Montville or Stonington. That would mean less time and less action at the casinos, which relentlessly pull gamblers into their gravitational fields.so once again we see that if you like C stores and Gas Stations as your secondary economy casinos are "great"And yet the people who have lived alongside casino developments over the past 15 years, those who have studied the broad and far-reaching economic impacts, even those who have bathed in the luxuries provided by gaming's revenue stream say casinos create jobs that don't pay particularly well, burden host towns with the need for additional government services and tend to drain revenue from nearby service businesses.so again....kill mom and pop....bay big casinos "When this first happened, we thought it would be positive, (but) we have not witnessed that. We have not seen a lot of local economic spinoff.Heather Brome, policy analyst for the Federal Reserve Bank of Boston's New England Public Policy Center, said in a 2006 memo, "The tourist does not generally spend much in the communities surrounding a resort-style casino, (but) a dollar spent by a tourist in a destination casino may fund a local supplier providing food and beverages to the casino, which then spends that income on other goods and services in the local economy, thus multiplying the effect of the first dollar spent."But Ms. Brome cautioned that the potential benefits of tourist spending may be offset by other factors."Residents patronizing (local) casinos may simply substitute gambling for other goods and services. The secondary impacts of spending on the foregone goods and services would therefore be lost, offsetting any ancillary benefits from gaming expenditures at the casino," she wrote.http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2008-0...y-casinos_N.htmall those great jobs never came.....haves have a bit more....have nots worse off......tropicana bankrupt and lost its licensehttp://www.forbes.com/feeds/ap/2008/12/10/ap5805703.htmlthe donald missing interest payments...this is the second time he has taken his casinos down this road....resorts atlantic city....also missed interest paymentshttp://www.businessweek.com/ap/financialnews/D94JEL7G5.htmcutting back on comps....now they just want your money for nothing in return....has been going this way for years....look at the prices in Vegas nowhttp://www.reuters.com/article/marketsNews...033916320081210Vegas strip off 26% Nevada as a whole down 22%http://www.philly.com/philly/business/2008...C__casinos.htmlcutting off 401K matching....so much for being "good" jobshttp://www.phillyburbs.com/pb-dyn/news/112...08-1634110.htmlpreying on the elderlyhttp://www.pressofatlanticcity.com/185/story/335433.htmlcutting jobs....even crappy oneshttp://www.dailyherald.com/story/?id=256666sucking business off of each otherjust a mature, over expanded, tired, loser industry full of bankruptcies, half truths, and lies, promoted by the short sighted and short term thinkers....and all the social ills that come with it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
musicman Posted January 14, 2009 Share Posted January 14, 2009 looks like the tx legislature is seriously thinking galveston gambling esp with the post ike situation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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