Parkside Residences: Multifamily High-Rise At 808 Crawford St.

[kennyc05]

On 6/28/2022 at 8:15 AM, Nate99 said:

I like it, with this and the new Skanska buildings, DG will be in a big bowl of large structures, which is a unique effect of urban parks. 
 

 

 

On 7/5/2022 at 10:32 AM, toxtethogrady said:

Except for Central Park, NYC.

 

1 hour ago, quietstorm said:

On a grand scale, yes. But Central Park is so large that once inside, the structures are not as "seen/felt". DG is a lot smaller and the buildings have a closer-in feel and are visible regardless of what area of the park you're in.

 

Lakeshore East Park in Chicago kinda has this feel 🤔

[editor]

13 hours ago, kennyc05 said:

Lakeshore East Park in Chicago kinda has this feel 🤔

Good to hear.  I'll have to check it out.  I lived in two buildings on Lakeshore East Park, The Shoreham, and Aqua. 

The success of LSE had an immense effect on local real estate developers.  It convinced them that having a park as an amenity would draw people in, and allow them to charge higher rents. 

POPS (privately owned public spaces) were viewed by last generation real estate developers as wasted space. Or as old fashioned people like to put it, "Not using the land for its [so-called] 'highest and best' use."  But that thinking proved to be so wrong that you'd be hard-pressed to find a major real estate development in Chicago and many other cities that doesn't include a park.

Magellan Development eventually turned Lakeshore East Park over to the Chicago Parks District, and now it's a full public park.

Here's a picture of Lakeshore East Park I took from Aqua:

The running track at the bottom is part of the amenities deck on the top of the Aqua podium shared by the residents and the Radisson Blu Aqua Hotel.  The low-rise buildings on the right are a supermarket on top, and restaurants and retail on the bottom. 

Note how the taller buildings are fronted by townhouses so that the area can have both density, and a welcoming neighborhood feel.

[kennyc05]

1 hour ago, editor said:

Good to hear.  I'll have to check it out.  I lived in two buildings on Lakeshore East Park, The Shoreham, and Aqua. 

The success of LSE had an immense effect on local real estate developers.  It convinced them that having a park as an amenity would draw people in, and allow them to charge higher rents. 

POPS (privately owned public spaces) were viewed by last generation real estate developers as wasted space. Or as old fashioned people like to put it, "Not using the land for its [so-called] 'highest and best' use."  But that thinking proved to be so wrong that you'd be hard-pressed to find a major real estate development in Chicago and many other cities that doesn't include a park.

Magellan Development eventually turned Lakeshore East Park over to the Chicago Parks District, and now it's a full public park.

Here's a picture of Lakeshore East Park I took from Aqua:

The running track at the bottom is part of the amenities deck on the top of the Aqua podium shared by the residents and the Radisson Blu Aqua Hotel.  The low-rise buildings on the right are a supermarket on top, and restaurants and retail on the bottom. 

Note how the taller buildings are fronted by townhouses so that the area can have both density, and a welcoming neighborhood feel.

Eggy's is delicious 😏👌🏾

[editor]

1 hour ago, kennyc05 said:

Eggy's is delicious 😏👌🏾

I could only get in there once when I was there.  Otherwise, there was always a line out the door.

Here's a better idea of what Lakeshore East looks like:

More to the point, it shows what it looks like when you ring a six-acre park with skyscrapers.

This view from Apple Maps is outdated, but I couldn't figure out how to do a 3D view with Google Maps.

That building in the middle that's under construction opened last year.  It's 101 stories tall.  It has two roadways running through it.  One at ground level, the other five stories up.  There are two skyscrapers and a mini-park on the right which have also been completed, those are 52 and 37 stories.  Another building has been approved next to them at 85 stories, but construction has not yet begin.

It's a good example of how to combine hotels, offices, apartments, condominiums, restaurants, retail, a school, and townhouses into a ~30 acre space. 

When I moved to Chicago in 2003, it was being used as a small golf course, which was just a placeholder until the 1965 development plan from the Illinois Central railroad could be built.  This used to be IC's rail yard and a wharf.  The land is still owned by Illinois Central.  There are great swaths of downtown Chicago that are owned by railroads, barge companies, and canal companies that no longer have railroads, barges, or canals, and exist today only as real estate developers.

Sorry to blather on about this.  I've written probably a hundred articles about LSE over the last 20 years, so it's something I know a bit too much about.

[kennyc05]

3 hours ago, editor said:

I could only get in there once when I was there.  Otherwise, there was always a line out the door.

Here's a better idea of what Lakeshore East looks like:

More to the point, it shows what it looks like when you ring a six-acre park with skyscrapers.

This view from Apple Maps is outdated, but I couldn't figure out how to do a 3D view with Google Maps.

That building in the middle that's under construction opened last year.  It's 101 stories tall.  It has two roadways running through it.  One at ground level, the other five stories up.  There are two skyscrapers and a mini-park on the right which have also been completed, those are 52 and 37 stories.  Another building has been approved next to them at 85 stories, but construction has not yet begin.

It's a good example of how to combine hotels, offices, apartments, condominiums, restaurants, retail, a school, and townhouses into a ~30 acre space. 

When I moved to Chicago in 2003, it was being used as a small golf course, which was just a placeholder until the 1965 development plan from the Illinois Central railroad could be built.  This used to be IC's rail yard and a wharf.  The land is still owned by Illinois Central.  There are great swaths of downtown Chicago that are owned by railroads, barge companies, and canal companies that no longer have railroads, barges, or canals, and exist today only as real estate developers.

Sorry to blather on about this.  I've written probably a hundred articles about LSE over the last 20 years, so it's something I know a bit too much about.

Pretty cool information!

[hindesky]

[CREguy13]

Not great picture quality, but was walking by this morning and noticed that the sign was up.  Of course would have preferred a retail component, but the ground level really turned out great imo.  The sidewalks, lighting at night, the lobby (looks great from street), the signage, etc.  

[Nate99]

Here’s an even worse shot of the sign…

[hindesky]

The entrance on Crawford St.

The exit on Texas Ave.

The lobby entrance.

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[79ta]

5 hours ago, hindesky said:

The before:

A nice addition!

Edited July 28, 2022 by 79ta

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[Texasota]

As much as I dislike these parking podia, this is really of the less unattractive ones. It kinda works. 

[alightindarkness]

All this time I was thinking it reminded me of something, and this angle just gave it away - it looks Minecraft-like! The parking podium mostly; it's as if it were made with quartz and stone bricks.

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Houston by Marc longoria, on Flickr

Houston by Marc longoria, on Flickr

[MidCenturyMoldy]

On 9/24/2022 at 10:01 AM, hindesky said:

"This view never gets old. Experience it for yourself..."

The view may never get old, but it has definitely gotten smaller... which is my only complaint about the location of the new building. 
 

Edited to add: Previous view. 👇

Edited November 19, 2022 by MidCenturyMoldy

[j_cuevas713]

I mean it is what it is. I'd rather have that building there than the empty lot

[MidCenturyMoldy]

11 hours ago, j_cuevas713 said:

I mean it is what it is. I'd rather have that building there than the empty lot

Are you guys kidding? (I’m including emoji reactions to my post.) I guess I look out, not down.

Previous view 👇

 

I would have stayed in that hotel for this view alone.👆Now there’s not much point.
 

Edited November 19, 2022 by MidCenturyMoldy

[004n063]

21 minutes ago, MidCenturyMoldy said:

Are you guys kidding? (I’m including emoji reactions to my post.) I guess I look out, not down.

Previous view 👇

 

I would have stayed in that hotel for this view alone.👆Now there’s not much point.
 

I mean, I could never afford to stay in that hotel either way, buy I prefer the view that doesn't have empty lots and parking garages.

 

Unless I'm in Switzerland or Glacier National Park or something, urban density will always be my favorite view.