travelguy_73 Posted June 14, 2005 Share Posted June 14, 2005 A few blocks away from my old house in Willow Meadows. From the pictures, it looks to be a good condition, which would make sense given its premium price for the neighborhood (heavily remodeled ranchers go for about the same). 10111 Cliffwood http://harpictures.marketlinx.com/MediaDisplay/73/hr1491773-1.jpg 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texasdago Posted June 14, 2005 Share Posted June 14, 2005 Doesn't look like a Jenkins-designed house to me. Cool but not Jenkins. I would love to have a port cochere... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rd Nipple Posted June 14, 2005 Share Posted June 14, 2005 Its a Jenkins....attended the open house over the weekend and the original blue prints were out on display. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoAtomic Posted June 14, 2005 Share Posted June 14, 2005 The open house was great, and (surprisingly) most people there were hip to the architectural significance of the house. And what a neat house .... pretty original, except for the kitchen appliances. But with the plans (which have every little detail down to the brand of the original floor tiles) one could restore it quite easily. The original (on the plans) 'Fleetwood' built-in TV is there, but the story according to the hosting realtor is that it quit working 6 months after the house was completed. Also, I believe I heard that the house was built from new on foundation piers, which explains not a single crack in the original brick flooring.The atrium baths are sooooo cool with the stepdown tubs. Probably the coolest thing, though, was the built in china cabinets, which have no back and are against the windows to the dining atrium - they're see-through !!Just loved the house, and really it seems a good deal considering the history and what non-notable houses are going for in nearby Meyerland. It's just one of those well-cared for, well preserved specimans that don't come along very often. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texasdago Posted June 14, 2005 Share Posted June 14, 2005 Wow... I stand corrected. Looks like a cool house... does anyone have any other pictures they can post? When was it designed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpaceAge Posted June 14, 2005 Share Posted June 14, 2005 Click on the address on the first post for more photos. The plan is similar to the former Jenkins residence at 10911 Willowisp he designed in 1956. Seems a trademark of their office was the low hanging light fixtures which this house has at least four. It is a beautiful house but the back yard is compromised by the extra long extension of the living area. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travelguy_73 Posted June 14, 2005 Author Share Posted June 14, 2005 It is a beautiful house but the back yard is compromised by the extra long extension of the living area.<{POST_SNAPBACK}>Is the extension original? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subdude Posted June 14, 2005 Share Posted June 14, 2005 Nice, although the metal roof seems to detract from the midcentury look in the photos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rps324 Posted June 15, 2005 Share Posted June 15, 2005 There are more photos on the listing. It is included in folder 2 on the Houstonmod.org site, under the available mod properties. that folder was just updated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texasdago Posted June 15, 2005 Share Posted June 15, 2005 I saw those pictures on the HAR listing - very nice. Hope it goes to a good owner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willowisp Posted June 16, 2005 Share Posted June 16, 2005 I wish I had known about the open house! Hopefully I can get in over there anyway for an appointment. It may give me some clues to my house as well, though it looks like it has been changed a bit if not a lot... To me it seems more or a ranch house than the mods down our street, but I look forward to seeing it!So far I have visited 3 other Jenkins besides my own and they are all fun to get to know. The plan is to eventually get the area Jenkins house owners together on an occaisional basis for dinner parties, rotating from house to house, so if you buy this one... Welcome to the club!The Willow Meadows homes prices are about $25 per sq ft. higher than the Willowbend ones for some reason... I have a hard time telling the difference. Closer to the loop? North of Belfort is "nicer" than South? As I understand it, it's more likely to flood on the other side of the neighborhood. I visited a lovely modern on Cliffwood near 610 (just knocked on the door - curious if it was a Jenkins, but apparantly not) and the owners told me of their home getting flooded in Allison and ruining their hardwoods. Most of our street didn't get water in the house.Jason Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travelguy_73 Posted June 16, 2005 Author Share Posted June 16, 2005 The Willow Meadows homes prices are about $25 per sq ft. higher than the Willowbend ones for some reason... I have a hard time telling the difference. Closer to the loop? North of Belfort is "nicer" than South? As I understand it, it's more likely to flood on the other side of the neighborhood. I visited a lovely modern on Cliffwood near 610 (just knocked on the door - curious if it was a Jenkins, but apparantly not) and the owners told me of their home getting flooded in Allison and ruining their hardwoods. Most of our street didn't get water in the house.Jason<{POST_SNAPBACK}>W Bellfort to 610 (and the part of the neighborhood inside 610) is zoned to Bellaire HS (vs Westbury HS), which probably is part of the difference. The Westbury half seems to be valued about the same, perhaps due to being all the same neighborhood. I lived in the Westbury half (where this mod is located) and actually found it to have a better housing stock with more heavily remodeled properties, and it was a bargain compared to Meyerland.As for flooding, there was certainly flooding along Cliffwood and near 610 during Allison. There is an open ditch that runs between Cliffwood and Willow Grove that went over its banks (not sure how much over or if it was along the entire stretch). It was sad to see all the hardwoods and carpet out by the curb the weeks following the flood. Outside 610, I don't believe there are any real flood concerns outside of something like Allison. Inside 610 might be in a flood zone, but I don't know for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpaceAge Posted June 17, 2005 Share Posted June 17, 2005 Is the extension original?<{POST_SNAPBACK}>Will some of you that saw the plans answer this? What was the date on the plans?The screen porch extension appeared well detailed and original to me. The similar in plan house on Willowisp has had the porch glazed and a window air conditioner added.Looks like the flood potential for this house and Willowisp is similar as they are located near the same ditch. The flood map link above shows a high risk of flooding. Better budget for flood insurance as a yearly expense. I guess all the Mods in California have to budget for earthquake insurance. I'll take flooding over earthquakes any day.As for determining values by location, Buffalo Bayou seems to be one of the major factors in Houston. Generally, the closer to the bayou, the higher the value. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoAtomic Posted June 17, 2005 Share Posted June 17, 2005 Will some of you that saw the plans answer this? What was the date on the plans?The screen porch extension appeared well detailed and original to me. <{POST_SNAPBACK}>As I remember it, the extension was definitely on the plans and is as-built. I didn't catch the plan date, though. Something else I noticed on the plans - there originally was a large, grid-like planting pocket that ran toward the street from in front of the porte-coche (which I believe was noted as 'carport' on the plans). It looked like about the same size as the carport (20x20) but is now covered over with grass. Cool idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpaceAge Posted June 17, 2005 Share Posted June 17, 2005 Something else I noticed on the plans - there originally was a large, grid-like planting pocket that ran toward the street from in front of the porte-coche (which I believe was noted as 'carport' on the plans). It looked like about the same size as the carport (20x20) but is now covered over with grass. Cool idea.<{POST_SNAPBACK}>Very interesting. The design kept the center axis theme consistent from the front to rear property line. He established a concept and stuck with it. It's unfortunate the 1980's looking landscape destroyed some of the strength of the original concept. I wonder what type of plantings the grid featured? A transitional approach of intermitent turf, gravel and trimmed groundcover might work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rps324 Posted June 18, 2005 Share Posted June 18, 2005 At least it is just landscaping that got an 80's update, if you have done any mod house shopping you have seen what other areas of a house can get bad 80's updates! The results can be absolutely frightening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jm1fd Posted June 18, 2005 Share Posted June 18, 2005 I can't vouch for its accuracy, but I've used www.efloodmap.com to investigate an area's flooding potential.<{POST_SNAPBACK}>Nifty site...I'm adding that to my arsenal along with tsarp.orgThanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willowisp Posted June 19, 2005 Share Posted June 19, 2005 Thanks for the info. I didn't realize anyone in the area went to Bellaire High. That can make a big difference if you have kids. I don't know the difference between the 2 schools, but I can imagine there is one.About flooding, I don't know about that side of the neighborhood, but our side has the concrete "waterway" now, and the former owner said it hasn't flooded since they put it in.JasonW Bellfort to 610 (and the part of the neighborhood inside 610) is zoned to Bellaire HS (vs Westbury HS), which probably is part of the difference. The Westbury half seems to be valued about the same, perhaps due to being all the same neighborhood. I lived in the Westbury half (where this mod is located) and actually found it to have a better housing stock with more heavily remodeled properties, and it was a bargain compared to Meyerland.As for flooding, there was certainly flooding along Cliffwood and near 610 during Allison. There is an open ditch that runs between Cliffwood and Willow Grove that went over its banks (not sure how much over or if it was along the entire stretch). It was sad to see all the hardwoods and carpet out by the curb the weeks following the flood. Outside 610, I don't believe there are any real flood concerns outside of something like Allison. Inside 610 might be in a flood zone, but I don't know for sure.<{POST_SNAPBACK}> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willowisp Posted June 27, 2005 Share Posted June 27, 2005 We got out to the open house today and found this house to be breathtaking!The bathrooms looking out on a rock garden and mini reflecting pool was probably my favorite feature. Talk about a peaceful place! The lack of this feature in our bathrooms makes me a little jealous of this house! The hardwood floors were interesting to see, as the other Jenkins we've been in didn't have them. This house seemed to be the most upscale Jenkins I know of. The panelling was reminiscent of the house 2 doors down from us. Other elements were near copies (or possibly improvements?) of the house across the street. Jenkins work is truly fascinating to me!The built in tv cabinet was a real conversation piece, but the built in china cabinet in the dining room wasn't as attractive as I hoped. The large closets caused more jealous feelings... The screened porch was cool to see. I could see myself sipping tea there.Seeing the backyard gave me hope that we can make more out of ours. All of our neighbors have much nicer backyards too, so I've got lots of inspiration - and work to do.I've got my fingers crossed that a real lover of MCM will buy this house and make it the palace it deserves to be. Though I'm still not sure that the price is right - all the power to the owners for trying to get the most for it.Jason Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowbrow Posted July 5, 2005 Share Posted July 5, 2005 Another open house scheduled for July 10 2-4. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willowisp Posted July 8, 2005 Share Posted July 8, 2005 I will probably go again. I can't resist! I think the asking price is a little high on this house, but I'm surprised no one has made a good enough offer by now. It's in a great location and it's gorgeous as far as I'm concerned. It needs a little work, but not enough to break the bank. The perks of this house far outweigh the problems.JasonAnother open house scheduled for July 10 2-4.<{POST_SNAPBACK}> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowbrow Posted July 10, 2005 Share Posted July 10, 2005 Willo- Good to meet you at the open house. Me and the wife went and looked at your place afterwards and absolutely love what youve done with it. Props to you.I like the Cliffwood house but even with the new reduced asking price it seems a little stiff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sevfiv Posted July 11, 2005 Share Posted July 11, 2005 Thanks for the info. I didn't realize anyone in the area went to Bellaire High. That can make a big difference if you have kids. I don't know the difference between the 2 schools, but I can imagine there is one.About flooding, I don't know about that side of the neighborhood, but our side has the concrete "waterway" now, and the former owner said it hasn't flooded since they put it in.Jasongrowing up in the area, i noticed that parents and students would do almost anything to NOT go to westbury! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowbrow Posted August 19, 2005 Share Posted August 19, 2005 Update: I believe the Cliffwood house has come down another 10k for those interested. If it had one more bedroom, I'd be a bit more interested. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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