Flamin' hot chili thread

[memebag]

My Crockpot Chili

2 (16 oz.) red kidney beans, drained and washed

Stop right there. It ain't chili if it has beans in it. It's some kind of stew.

[Heights2Bastrop]

Stop right there. It ain't chili if it has beans in it. It's some kind of stew.

You and Frank X Tolbert need to chili out!

Tolbert is the one who, at the very first chili cookoff in Terlingua, claimed that

[memebag]

You and Frank X Tolbert need to chili out!

Tolbert is the one who, at the very first chili cookoff in Terlingua, claimed that "Texans don't eat beans in our chili". That was pure poppycock! I am a third GenTexan, and I love beans in my chili. Always have, always will.

Texans don't eat beans in their chili because if it has beans in it, it ain't chili. You may call that chili, but you're living a lie.

One thing Texans don't do is use the word "poppycock".

[Heights2Bastrop]

OK, let me try this again:

You and Frank X Tolbert are full of bullschytt!

Tolbert is the one who, at the very first chili cookoff in Terlingua, claimed that "Texans don't eat beans in our chili". That was pure bullschytt! I am a third GenTexan, and I love beans in my chili. Always have, always will.

There. Is that Texan enough for you???

[memebag]

OK, let me try this again:

You and Frank X Tolbert are full of bullschytt!

Tolbert is the one who, at the very first chili cookoff in Terlingua, claimed that "Texans don't eat beans in our chili". That was pure bullschytt! I am a third GenTexan, and I love beans in my chili. Always have, always will.

There. Is that Texan enough for you???

Definitely. It also accurately reflects Texans' general lack of logic skills. If chili doesn't have beans in it (an axiom) then anything with beans in it isn't chili. Therefore, Texans don't eat beans in their chili.

[sarahiki]

Tomato and Spinach Pasta

1.5 cups of rotini or penne pasta, uncooked

1/2 lb hot or mild italian sausage (I split pkg containing ~ 1.25 lbs and freeze other half)

1 pkg of baby spinach leaves

2 cans (14.5 oz) diced tomatoes with basil garlic and oregano, undrained

1 cup shredded low moisture part skim mozzarella cheese

optional: add'l Italian spices.

Cook pasta as directed on pkg.

Meanwhile, crumble sausage into large deep skillet. Cook on medium-high 10 to 12 min or until cooked through, stirring occasionally; drain.

Add tomatoes and spinach. Cook until spinach is wilted, stirring occasionally. Remove heat.

Drain cooked pasta and add to skillet. Stir and add cheese on top.

NOTE: I usually add some additional Italian spices when I add canned tomatoes, dried is fine.

I make a version of this... instead of sausage, diced chicken breast and some white wine in the sauce as it cooks...

[houstonmacbro]

OK, let me try this again:

You and Frank X Tolbert are full of bullschytt!

Tolbert is the one who, at the very first chili cookoff in Terlingua, claimed that "Texans don't eat beans in our chili". That was pure bullschytt! I am a third GenTexan, and I love beans in my chili. Always have, always will.

There. Is that Texan enough for you???

LOL

That is hilarious. I like chili, I like beans, but I generally think most chefs put too MANY beans in their chili. I think the beans should be an accent, not the main part of the chili.

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That is hilarious. I like chili, I like beans, but I generally think most chefs put too MANY beans in their chili. I think the beans should be an accent, not the main part of the chili.

I love chili and I love beans, but one bean in chili is too much. Chili is about meat and spice. Beans ruin it.

[musicman]

I love chili and I love beans, but one bean in chili is too much. Chili is about meat and spice. Beans ruin it.

just add some bean-no.

[houstonmacbro]

I love chili and I love beans, but one bean in chili is too much. Chili is about meat and spice. Beans ruin it.

Yummy. But I think a few beans are okay. A few.

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Once again, I find myself surrounded by philistines.

[editor]

The sort of Texans who claim that chili doesn't have beans in it are the "new" Texans -- the ones who drive around in air conditioned Hummers and live in master planned cul-de-sacs with children named Jennyfer and Madison and Ashley.

The real Texans who invented chili (back before it was Texas) absolutely used beans. They planted them along the trail and knew how many days they would take for them to germinate and bear fruit and then they would harvest them along the way back home and use them in their chili.

[memebag]

The sort of Texans who claim that chili doesn't have beans in it are the "new" Texans -- the ones who drive around in air conditioned Hummers and live in master planned cul-de-sacs with children named Jennyfer and Madison and Ashley.

The real Texans who invented chili (back before it was Texas) absolutely used beans. They planted them along the trail and knew how many days they would take for them to germinate and bear fruit and then they would harvest them along the way back home and use them in their chili.

That's bold talk for someone in Chicago. Source?

[TheNiche]

You and Frank X Tolbert are full of bullschytt!

Tolbert is the one who, at the very first chili cookoff in Terlingua, claimed that "Texans don't eat beans in our chili". That was pure bullschytt! I am a third GenTexan, and I love beans in my chili. Always have, always will.

There. Is that Texan enough for you???

I'll back up your third generation with eight more on my part.

[editor]

That's bold talk for someone in Chicago. Source?

Food Network, and one of the many books on Texas history that I bought when I moved to Texas. I'll see if I can find something on the interweb for you.

[editor]

That's bold talk for someone in Chicago. Source?

How about a scan of a page from a cowboy's journal?

William Crawford is the cowboy on the left. The picture was taken during a cattle drive.

A page from the journal reads, in part, "Finished planting beans, also planted little white cow peas"

[RedScare]

The sort of Texans who claim that chili doesn't have beans in it are the "new" Texans -- the ones who drive around in air conditioned Hummers and live in master planned cul-de-sacs with children named Jennyfer and Madison and Ashley.

The real Texans who invented chili (back before it was Texas) absolutely used beans. They planted them along the trail and knew how many days they would take for them to germinate and bear fruit and then they would harvest them along the way back home and use them in their chili.

Oh, you must be talking about real cowboys, as opposed to those who cook chili in stadium parking lots and only look at horses, rather than ride them.

It only takes a minimal amount of thought to realize that those who cooked chili as sustenance, as opposed to taste, would have used plenty of beans to stretch the meal, as well as to gain the nutritional value of the beans.

I do have one correction, editor. "Real" rhinestone Texans drive F-150s and Silverados, not Hummers. Hummer driver do not even cook chili. They cater out to Goode Co.

[houstonmacbro]

Oh, you must be talking about real cowboys, as opposed to those who cook chili in stadium parking lots and only look at horses, rather than ride them.

It only takes a minimal amount of thought to realize that those who cooked chili as sustenance, as opposed to taste, would have used plenty of beans to stretch the meal, as well as to gain the nutritional value of the beans.

I do have one correction, editor. "Real" rhinestone Texans drive F-150s and Silverados, not Hummers. Hummer driver do not even cook chili. They cater out to Goode Co.

I've seen shows where some people put chili over spaghetti, over rice, over potatoes.

Hmm ... that ain't chili!

And if it doesn't have a good dose of sharp cheddar and a dollop of sour cream with some crackers to go along with it, it ain't chili either.

[editor]

I've seen shows where some people put chili over spaghetti, over rice, over potatoes.

Guilty! At least about the spaghetti. Of course, I've been called a heretic before.

Once I was on the air at a radio station in Wisconsin and let it slip that instead of soaking my bratwurst in beer and then grilling it outside like God intended, I boil them in a nice pot of rice. The studio phones rang for hours afterward with outraged cheeseheads.

[memebag]

Food Network, and one of the many books on Texas history that I bought when I moved to Texas. I'll see if I can find something on the interweb for you.

None of that shows them putting beans in their chili con carne. Looking at Wikipedia (for what it's worth) shows this:

The essential ingredients are chili peppers and meat.

The Americanized recipe consisted of dried beef, suet, dried chile peppers (usually chilepiquenes), and salt, which were pounded together and left to dry into bricks, which could then be boiled in pots on the trail.

Original Texas-style chili

This contains no beans or vegetables except chiles which have been prepared by being boiled, peeled, and chopped. The beans should be cooked separately and served alongside, to be mixed at the diner's discretion in his or her own serving bowl.

Beef was plentiful and cheap in San Antonio and other cattle towns. As chili spread east into areas where beef was more expensive, however, chili made with beans became more prevalent.

BTW, I'm not a "new" Texan. My family has lived here since before the Battle of San Jacinto (one of my ancestors fought in it). Granted, we weren't the rich, meat eating Texans, but there's nothing "new" about the claim that beans don't belong in chili.

Edited July 24, 2008 by memebag

[TheNiche]

None of that shows them putting beans in their chili con carne. Looking at Wikipedia (for what it's worth) shows this:

BTW, I'm not a "new" Texan. My family has lived here since before the Battle of San Jacinto (one of my ancestors fought in it). Granted, we weren't the rich, meat eating Texans, but there's nothing "new" about the claim that beans don't belong in chili.

I call Wikipedia into question. They are frequently inaccurate on matters such as this.

And actually, you just described another factor that goes into Texas Chili: cost. Beans cost less than beef. There's no disputing that. And most Texans were poorly-paid ranchers or subsistence farmers in the early days. Heck, my college-educated ancestors spent most of their accumulated wealth just getting here and settling down...at one point they were relegated to the dismal low-paying task of making nails...were subject to indian raids on their meager supplies of corn...were getting by primarily upon grain-based products...forget about them eating beef. If they had any surplus beef to spare, it would've made far more sense to sell or trade it. And as immigrants go, they were well off. Many other immigrant groups were relegated to sausage comprised of some pretty nasty parts of the livestock that would never pass muster in chili.

[musicman]

Guilty! At least about the spaghetti. Of course, I've been called a heretic before.

LOL must be a white thing.

[sevfiv]

my goodness! do we need a chili topic split-off?

[musicman]

I've seen shows where some people put chili over spaghetti, over rice, over potatoes.

Hmm ... that ain't chili!

And if it doesn't have a good dose of sharp cheddar and a dollop of sour cream with some crackers to go along with it, it ain't chili either.

hmmm bro is coming more and more into question.

Edited July 24, 2008 by musicman

[houstonmacbro]

LOL must be a white thing.

Hilarious.

[houstonmacbro]

hmmm bro is coming more and more into question.

As a child we also ate it with heated tortillas.

Is that a little more ethnic enough?

[musicman]

As a child we also ate it with heated tortillas.

Is that a little more ethnic enough?

in some neighborhoods. it's all how the tortilla is prepared

[editor]

LOL must be a white thing.

Middle Eastern, actually. It's Lebanese Chili.

[houstonmacbro]

You know we all have ADD and can't keep on one topic.

[memebag]

I call Wikipedia into question. They are frequently inaccurate on matters such as this.

And actually, you just described another factor that goes into Texas Chili: cost. Beans cost less than beef. There's no disputing that. And most Texans were poorly-paid ranchers or subsistence farmers in the early days. Heck, my college-educated ancestors spent most of their accumulated wealth just getting here and settling down...at one point they were relegated to the dismal low-paying task of making nails...were subject to indian raids on their meager supplies of corn...were getting by primarily upon grain-based products...forget about them eating beef. If they had any surplus beef to spare, it would've made far more sense to sell or trade it. And as immigrants go, they were well off. Many other immigrant groups were relegated to sausage comprised of some pretty nasty parts of the livestock that would never pass muster in chili.

Wikipedia claims that beef was cheap in Texas at the time chili became popular, and beans may have been added as the dish moved to places where beef was more expensive.