Yankee_in_TX Posted October 21, 2010 Share Posted October 21, 2010 I assume with Walgreen's moving across the street there is something to the rumor of Kroger pulling up steaks now that the one on 11th is done?At one point I heard murmurs on here of a 24 hour fitness (which would be awesome, so much closer than Post Oak)? Any new news? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross Posted October 21, 2010 Share Posted October 21, 2010 I would like to see the Kroger redone to make it look like it did when it was built, and before the "Kroger identity" crap was put on the front. From the inside, it looks like the roof is a typical 50's/60's swooping plane wing shape. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan the Man Posted October 21, 2010 Share Posted October 21, 2010 There is a "Space For Lease" sign along Yale. Call the broker on the sign and ask how many square feet are currently available in the center. Also ask if there is the possibility that additional square footage will become available in the near future. If so, how much space will be available?Take these values and compare them to the overall square footage for the shopping center building (you can get this from HCAD or measure it on Google Earth). The amount of available space should be enough information to tell you whether Kroger is leaving with Walgreens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted October 21, 2010 Share Posted October 21, 2010 As run down as that Kroger is, it does serve a valuable purpose for the people in the area without cars. Lots of folks walk to/from here, or even take the bus. I'd rather it just get cleaned up and refreshed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brickfence Posted October 21, 2010 Share Posted October 21, 2010 I have heard that Kroger will redevelop the entire shopping center to become another Signature Kroger. Once Walgreens moves across the street, look for Kroger to take over the entire property.And yes, I do realize how close it is to the one on 11th st. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
west20th Posted October 21, 2010 Share Posted October 21, 2010 I have heard that Kroger will redevelop the entire shopping center to become another Signature Kroger. Once Walgreens moves across the street, look for Kroger to take over the entire property.And yes, I do realize how close it is to the one on 11th st.I could see them staying as is but I'm not sure they would want to invest too much more in a store that can't sell beer and wine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted October 22, 2010 Share Posted October 22, 2010 Pharmacist at Walgrees today said she heard Kroger was taking over. Just a rumor, but still. Walgreens on the south side of 20th opens 11/23, by the way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
little frau Posted October 22, 2010 Share Posted October 22, 2010 What are the boundaries for the dry area in the Heights? I didn't realize that it extended to 20th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
west20th Posted October 22, 2010 Share Posted October 22, 2010 What are the boundaries for the dry area in the Heights? I didn't realize that it extended to 20th.I'm just guessing to nearly 610. That is where the first "wet" business (Buffalo Fred's) shows up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonic0boom Posted October 22, 2010 Share Posted October 22, 2010 There's the the Boom Boom Room on Yale, and isn't Jus Mac selling beer and wine? I think the problem with trying to determine the wet/dry line by looking at what business are selling alcohol is that there aren't many places that would sell alcohol north of 19th and btw Shepherd and Yale in the first place. But surely the Kroger on 20th would be selling beer and wine now if they could(?). I doubt they would wait for a remodel for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedScare Posted October 22, 2010 Share Posted October 22, 2010 It is around 22nd or 23rd Street. If you look at one of the old Heights boundary maps, it will show the exact street, but it is either of those two. EDIT: Actually, it is 23rd Street, but only on the east side of Yale. The west side is dry over to Shepherd. Map located in this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angostura Posted October 22, 2010 Share Posted October 22, 2010 It is around 22nd or 23rd Street. If you look at one of the old Heights boundary maps, it will show the exact street, but it is either of those two.EDIT: Actually, it is 23rd Street, but only on the east side of Yale. The west side is dry over to Shepherd.Map located in this thread.http://www.houstonar...map-of-heights/The city is pretty inconsistent on this, and information on the exact boundaries is hard to come by. The dry area at the time of the 1912 vote extended to the middle of 22nd street East of Yale, and the middle of 26th street west of Yale. Therefore the Boom Boom Room and Fiesta Liquors are wet. See here. However the associated map doesn't match the legal description, since it goes to 23rd St East of Yale and 610 West of Yale.Jus' Mac is operating under a private club license even though they appear to be just outside the dry area. It may have just been easier than fighting it, since, in practical terms, there's very little difference. Just have to swipe a drivers license. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
west20th Posted October 22, 2010 Share Posted October 22, 2010 Trader Joe's in moving in! Ahh, one can dream...We'll probably end up with a mattress store, a pay-day loan center and a pawn shop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porchman Posted October 22, 2010 Share Posted October 22, 2010 It is around 22nd or 23rd Street. If you look at one of the old Heights boundary maps, it will show the exact street, but it is either of those two.EDIT: Actually, it is 23rd Street, but only on the east side of Yale. The west side is dry over to Shepherd.Map located in this thread.http://www.houstonar...map-of-heights/The map of the Heights really covers the territory of the Houston Heights Association. It's Houston Heights itself that is dry, but the map covers other subdivisions like Heights Annex where you can purchase beer and wine at La Mich at W 14 or Valero at W 16. Houston Heights also extends west of Durham at up around 24th Street, so I would presume that area would be dry, as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brickfence Posted November 4, 2010 Share Posted November 4, 2010 Now that Tommie Vaughn has passed away, the rules on dry vs wet locations are a lot looser. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiko Posted November 4, 2010 Share Posted November 4, 2010 Now that Tommie Vaughn has passed away, the rules on dry vs wet locations are a lot looser.Interesting, what's the connection between Tommie Vaughn and this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJxvi Posted November 4, 2010 Share Posted November 4, 2010 Did I miss something? Is Tommie Vaughn dead? Is the dealership going anywhere anytime soon even if he is?The only connection I see, is that as far as the wet commercial real estate goes, is that the Ford dealership is sitting on several of the only large contiguous parcels that would be well suited for any number of new shopping centers, restaurants, etc etc along both shepherd and durham. Most of the other property in that area is broken up into pretty small narrow hard to develop tracts or already commercially developed (Merchants Park) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJxvi Posted November 4, 2010 Share Posted November 4, 2010 I guess its also a possibility that Tommie Vaughn is/was a draconian figure personally making sure that the wet dry rules were harsh and well enforced... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
little frau Posted November 5, 2010 Share Posted November 5, 2010 There must be some record of hard lines defining the wet and dry areas. Otherwise, when a person applies for a beer/liquor permit, what criteria is used to approve or disapprove the application? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiko Posted November 5, 2010 Share Posted November 5, 2010 Tommie Vaughn passed away about five years ago. I'm pretty sure he didn't live in the neighborhood. The dealership isn't anywhere near the dry area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted November 29, 2010 Share Posted November 29, 2010 Wow, that new Walgreens is SMALL!!! Feels really claustrophobic. Must be a big change for the staff moving from such a large store to the new one.So, now we wait to see what will take over... I usually ask the Kroger folks when I go in there, but they usually don't have any idea what's going on wrt moving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 Any update on the 20th St Kroger? I know Walgrees next door is pretty much wiped clean, fixtures and all (or close to it, last time I checked). Haven't been to that Krog in a few weeks to ask Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan the Man Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 I noticed that Sally Beauty Supply recently vacated their space in the shopping center. Did they move to one of the new spots in Merchants' Park?. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 I noticed that Sally Beauty Supply recently vacated their space in the shopping center. Did they move to one of the new spots in Merchants' Park?.Yes, between the dentist and the AT&T store. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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