wilcal Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 11 minutes ago, X.R. said: It makes sense, and I wouldn't be surprised if its because of pressure from entities within Uptown wanting to maximize the return on the Uptown BRT system. Its stupidly nice and while people are still slowing going back to normal why not begin the project. I've taken the BRT a handful of times, mostly for novelty and I'm near a stop, and I still don't know what I'm supposed to do with it unless I'm parking at my work and wanting to enjoy the galleria area. Connect it to Wheeler though, and ooooo boy. You know how many people could go carless to work? Or go carless to the galleria on the weekend and enjoy themselves? I would bet a lot, a looot of money that businesses would see a crazy boon. Edit: also, housing in the area isn't gonna get any cheaper and this allows the peons like me to live elsewhere and maybe minimize car costs and still work in the galleria area. I completely agree, and it is actually one of the reasons why I recently bought a place in Eastwood near where this line would have a mini transit center to connect the Green Line and the University BRT. It is going to be 15-30 minutes away from the 3 largest job centers (downtown, med center, and uptown), 3 major universities, and Hobby all via mass transit. Would be really nice to be able to not have to worry about what traffic is like on 59 to go Uptown or wherever else. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texasota Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 https://ridemetro.granicus.com/MetaViewer.php?view_id=5&clip_id=2141&meta_id=53819 Also a rendering of a potential Memorial Park station on the Inner Katy BRT! 4 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post wilcal Posted May 25, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted May 25, 2021 Here is the rendering. Looks great! An actual timeline of the Inner Katy BRT, too. 13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeerNut Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 11 hours ago, wilcal said: I completely agree, and it is actually one of the reasons why I recently bought a place in Eastwood near where this line would have a mini transit center to connect the Green Line and the University BRT. It is going to be 15-30 minutes away from the 3 largest job centers (downtown, med center, and uptown), 3 major universities, and Hobby all via mass transit. Would be really nice to be able to not have to worry about what traffic is like on 59 to go Uptown or wherever else. I'm also looking forward to the BRT stop near me. Two stops to Red Line and four to Purple. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
august948 Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 Does anyone know if bicycles are allowed on the brt (current or planned)? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilcal Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 8 hours ago, august948 said: Does anyone know if bicycles are allowed on the brt (current or planned)? Yes, and you bring them on with you just like the light rail. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samagon Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 11 hours ago, BeerNut said: I'm also looking forward to the BRT stop near me. Two stops to Red Line and four to Purple. the BRT station at east side transit will be great! too bad I've moved about a mile down the road and I'm not in Broadmoor any longer! well, I guess it's good, I expect the construction for this project is going to take way longer than it should to complete. especially as it runs under 45 where there is already the grade crossing for spur 5 and a railroad. it will be interesting to see how they shoehorn everything within the existing ROW, or are they going to reconfigure that whole interchange? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilcal Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 5 minutes ago, samagon said: the BRT station at east side transit will be great! too bad I've moved about a mile down the road and I'm not in Broadmoor any longer! well, I guess it's good, I expect the construction for this project is going to take way longer than it should to complete. especially as it runs under 45 where there is already the grade crossing for spur 5 and a railroad. it will be interesting to see how they shoehorn everything within the existing ROW, or are they going to reconfigure that whole interchange? I'm also interested to see how they are going to manage the rail crossing just south of Harrisburg. I'm guessing that they won't do a under or overpass or anything, so will just have to deal with the trains potentially. Where/when is that graphic from? I don't remember seeing that angle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samagon Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 (edited) 22 hours ago, Texasota said: https://ridemetro.granicus.com/MetaViewer.php?view_id=5&clip_id=2141&meta_id=53819 Also a rendering of a potential Memorial Park station on the Inner Katy BRT! this is where I found that photo, you have to scroll down to page 66 to see the University Line stuff. 27 minutes ago, wilcal said: I'm also interested to see how they are going to manage the rail crossing just south of Harrisburg. I'm guessing that they won't do a under or overpass or anything, so will just have to deal with the trains potentially. Where/when is that graphic from? I don't remember seeing that angle. I didn't even think of that. as close as this rail line is to Harrisburg, I don't think they can do a grade separation easily. further, doing grade separation on this BRT would really do some damage to the surrounding neighborhoods. grade separation for the rail line (doing a trench like they have on that one freight line coming through LA) would be the best way to add the BRT and have grade separation with the rail, and not interfere with the neighborhood. but I don't see the rail agreeing to do that. (thinking of this guy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alameda_Corridor) Edited May 26, 2021 by samagon 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X.R. Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 (edited) If y'all read Dug's article about the BRT line he mentions how the University line met resistance from those residents "west of Shepard" which eventually derailed ()the development. I can understand these detractors are a lot of people with money, but was that all of the opposition? I know Culberson was a naughty boy, so was it him and those residents? I was thinking about why now, like why did Metro feel these two particular BRT lines were the ones to push to get done (outside of the mandate by the voters). And I really think a good deal of it is Rice and their development around Wheeler. If it was still the old Sears, the Uptown development folks prolly wouldn't be too anxious to get BRT done from this direction (sorry Eastenders). But if Rice's development is at least partially successful (and it already is in terms of attracting tenants and Greentown Labs), that's a lot of potential spending power. Plus Rice is marketing this as a more walkable development with potential residents and users less likely to use cars; so they sure as hell want this. Just saying, I think there is now a lot of synergy between Uptown and Midtown and the East End that may not have been there even 5 years ago. And I'm happy for all the East End homies too 🥳 Edited May 26, 2021 by X.R. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samagon Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 if I remember correctly, it was specifically the Afton Oaks people who stopped it in its tracks (). well, them and Culberson. No offense taken, that Rice campus really lifts that area and makes it more desirable. Rice making that investment in the area, I'm sure, prompted Metro to evaluate who goes next. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HouTXRanger Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 1 hour ago, X.R. said: I was thinking about why now, like why did Metro feel these two particular BRT lines were the ones to push to get done (outside of the mandate by the voters). These two lines, especially Richmond, are the most important rapid transit lines in the city after the Red line. Thanks to Culberson et. al, our city has lacked an east-west rapid transit line to link our 3 largest job centers: downtown, galleria, and med center. The lack of a Richmond line to link our rail to the silver line is especially crippling. This is basically the second major step towards Houston having an actual viable regional public transit system. Also, I believe the Katy BRT is getting lots of money from TXDOT, so they want to get that going while they have the funds. I think that's an oversimplification of the two lines, but feel free to add in if anyone else knows more. 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeerNut Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 1 hour ago, X.R. said: I was thinking about why now, like why did Metro feel these two particular BRT lines were the ones to push to get done (outside of the mandate by the voters). And I really think a good deal of it is Rice and their development around Wheeler. If it was still the old Sears, the Uptown development folks prolly wouldn't be too anxious to get BRT done from this direction (sorry Eastenders). Isn't TXDOT moving forward to start on the segment near the Innovation District before others? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samagon Posted May 27, 2021 Share Posted May 27, 2021 15 hours ago, BeerNut said: Isn't TXDOT moving forward to start on the segment near the Innovation District before others? that's what I've heard, but I believe that the lawsuit, and the stop order from USDOT basically stops everything until it's hashed out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montrose1100 Posted May 27, 2021 Share Posted May 27, 2021 On 5/25/2021 at 11:05 AM, wilcal said: I completely agree, and it is actually one of the reasons why I recently bought a place in Eastwood near where this line would have a mini transit center to connect the Green Line and the University BRT. It is going to be 15-30 minutes away from the 3 largest job centers (downtown, med center, and uptown), 3 major universities, and Hobby all via mass transit. Would be really nice to be able to not have to worry about what traffic is like on 59 to go Uptown or wherever else. I really hope the BRT helps cut down transit time from our hood to the TMC (by avoiding Downtown to connect to the Red Line). It's currently +45 minutes to get there door to door. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilcal Posted May 27, 2021 Share Posted May 27, 2021 5 minutes ago, Montrose1100 said: I really hope the BRT helps cut down transit time from our hood to the TMC (by avoiding Downtown to connect to the Red Line). It's currently +45 minutes to get there door to door. Yeah, transferring lines in downtown is actually pretty annoying. Private car drive time from Eastwood TC to Wheeler Station is about 11 minutes plus time to make the 6 or 7 bus stops between. Silver line stops are scheduled to be very quick though. From the Four Oaks Station to Galleria Station, it is a 1 mileish journey with 5 stops and is scheduled to take 8 minutes. Wheeler to Memorial Hermann station is scheduled at 6 minutes. So maybe in the range of 25-30ish for Eastwood TC to Memorial Hermann stop if you nail a connection. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X.R. Posted May 27, 2021 Share Posted May 27, 2021 If I was the city, I would promote the hell out of this because now developers can develop in less expensive areas and talk about "galleria/TMC only 20 mins away without getting into a car" type stuff. If @wilcal is right, and you could go from Eastwood to Galleria maybe in 45 mins or so MAX, I would call that a big win. Why would the Afton Oaks people whine? Anyone take Richmond through there? People fly down that road at like 45-50mph when traffic is crazy on 59. This would cause some natural speed limiting and then people wouldn't have to idle in their driveway waiting for the perfect chance to back out of their driveway and not die. And yeah, I think the 59 project is supposed to move forward regardless of the lawsuit but who knows. I can't imagine the city looks at the recent flooding of 288 (even if its supposed to flood) and goes "Yeah, lets dig a giant hole that will flood in the area where we have some of the most important land development in the midtown/downtown area." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rechlin Posted May 27, 2021 Share Posted May 27, 2021 1 hour ago, X.R. said: Why would the Afton Oaks people whine? Anyone take Richmond through there? People fly down that road at like 45-50mph when traffic is crazy on 59. This would cause some natural speed limiting and then people wouldn't have to idle in their driveway waiting for the perfect chance to back out of their driveway and not die. The BRT line is not planned to go through Afton Oaks. It would drop down from Richmond in the Greenway Plaza area to follow Westpark. Even the last designs for the LRT line weren't even planned to go go through Afton Oaks. After the neighborhood made a big stink about it, Metro moved the planned route from Richmond to Westpark. The biggest difference I am seeing between the proposed BRT route and the formerly proposed LRT route, in the Wheeler to Uptown section, is that it now appears to cross IH-69 at Edloe instead of just west of Edloe (Timmons maybe?). Also, if they are only planning to do Segment 2 initially, I hope they at least do two more stops into Segment 1 to connect it with the Westpark / Lower Uptown Transit Center instead of dead-ending at the railroad tracks. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samagon Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 (edited) 17 hours ago, rechlin said: The BRT line is not planned to go through Afton Oaks. It would drop down from Richmond in the Greenway Plaza area to follow Westpark. Even the last designs for the LRT line weren't even planned to go go through Afton Oaks. After the neighborhood made a big stink about it, Metro moved the planned route from Richmond to Westpark. The biggest difference I am seeing between the proposed BRT route and the formerly proposed LRT route, in the Wheeler to Uptown section, is that it now appears to cross IH-69 at Edloe instead of just west of Edloe (Timmons maybe?). Also, if they are only planning to do Segment 2 initially, I hope they at least do two more stops into Segment 1 to connect it with the Westpark / Lower Uptown Transit Center instead of dead-ending at the railroad tracks. the Afton Oaks people complained years ago, like, 2010 timeframe, after the Houston public voted in favor of the University line. as it was designed the light rail was going to go down Richmond through Afton Oaks. they successfully fought to have it realigned so that it would jog from Richmond over the freeway near Greenway plaza, and over to Westpark. when all the dust from that finally settled, Culberson decided he would toss a rider onto a bill through congress that denied any federal funding for more light rail in Houston, effectively killing the University line, regardless of the corridor. I may be remembering the timing incorrectly, but I know there's a thread on here that details this a lot better. quite sad, but typical Houston. here ya go, jeez, it started in 2006! Edited May 28, 2021 by samagon 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_cuevas713 Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 And I still hate Culberson to this day. So happy Fletcher is in charge now. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
august948 Posted May 29, 2021 Share Posted May 29, 2021 3 hours ago, j_cuevas713 said: And I still hate Culberson to this day. So happy Fletcher is in charge now. Fletcher isn't really in charge, but she's a reliable yes vote to pretty much anything that's proposed in the house. Was just looking at her voting record and she's only voted no on three bills since she took office (that's in nine pages of bills going back to Jan 2019). Makes me wonder if she's actually looking at bills or just rubber stamping whatever her leadership tells her to stamp. At any rate, if any transportation funding is proposed you can bet she'll vote yes where Culberson voted no. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BeerNut Posted June 17, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 17, 2021 Metro about to draw first hard lines along Richmond, Westpark, Lockwood for big BRT route Quote Metropolitan Transit Authority board members are scheduled June 24 to approve a preferred alternative for the 25-mile University Line, the mammoth route that acts somewhat as an east-west spine of the region’s future transit plans. Setting the preferred route does not lock the agency into that exact path, but instead acts as the goal as design continues, leading to eventual public response to a proposal. 11 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_cuevas713 Posted June 24, 2021 Share Posted June 24, 2021 (edited) On 5/27/2021 at 1:42 PM, X.R. said: If I was the city, I would promote the hell out of this because now developers can develop in less expensive areas and talk about "galleria/TMC only 20 mins away without getting into a car" type stuff. If @wilcal is right, and you could go from Eastwood to Galleria maybe in 45 mins or so MAX, I would call that a big win. Why would the Afton Oaks people whine? Anyone take Richmond through there? People fly down that road at like 45-50mph when traffic is crazy on 59. This would cause some natural speed limiting and then people wouldn't have to idle in their driveway waiting for the perfect chance to back out of their driveway and not die. And yeah, I think the 59 project is supposed to move forward regardless of the lawsuit but who knows. I can't imagine the city looks at the recent flooding of 288 (even if its supposed to flood) and goes "Yeah, lets dig a giant hole that will flood in the area where we have some of the most important land development in the midtown/downtown area." The USDOT just sent another letter to TxDOT after community leaders went to the county, telling TxDOT to STOP ALL ACTION on this project and to stop harassing residents in acquiring their property. This just happened today. TxDOT thinks they can just bulldoze over people, and I'm happy to see Harris County fighting back. Edited June 24, 2021 by j_cuevas713 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BEES?! Posted July 7, 2021 Share Posted July 7, 2021 METRONext Moving Forward Plan Update as of June 2021. Not a lot of info on BRT, but as far as the Inner Katy BRT corridor goes, looks like there's a community meeting in July, then an interagency meeting in August. Hope they end up implementing the Memorial Park stop that was proposed. I am so interested to see how the BRT is going to interact with the LRT downtown- I guess it'll share the lane with the trains, is that right? There's also a lot of info in there about the BOOST corridors, looks like they're thinking that the pilot 1.5 mi section of the 56 Airline/Montrose BOOST corridor will be finished this year, and the 1.5 mi partner segment is supposed to have begun construction in June 2021. (6/30, actually) Has there been any info on the preferred alternative for the University BRT line posted anywhere since the Chron article? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilcal Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 That update makes me want to pull my freaking hair out! Do they have like a small handful of employees working on METRONext and that's it? 18 months just to design the BOOST corridor for the 82 and another 24 for construction? We are talking about ramps and bus shelters here. Also, since when is Inner Katy BRT a MNext project? That was fine before the boobs issue passed and is partially funded by H-GAC. Basically, in the 20 months since the bond passed they've done 300 bus stop improvements? And no design work on any LRT/BRT projects besides Inner Katy which shouldn't count? *Sigh* /Rant over 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
citykid09 Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 18 hours ago, BEES?! said: METRONext Moving Forward Plan Update as of June 2021. Not a lot of info on BRT, but as far as the Inner Katy BRT corridor goes, looks like there's a community meeting in July, then an interagency meeting in August. Hope they end up implementing the Memorial Park stop that was proposed. I am so interested to see how the BRT is going to interact with the LRT downtown- I guess it'll share the lane with the trains, is that right? There's also a lot of info in there about the BOOST corridors, looks like they're thinking that the pilot 1.5 mi section of the 56 Airline/Montrose BOOST corridor will be finished this year, and the 1.5 mi partner segment is supposed to have begun construction in June 2021. (6/30, actually) Has there been any info on the preferred alternative for the University BRT line posted anywhere since the Chron article? I hate BRT in cities like Houston. I feel like a metro area of 7+ million people should strive for something more significant. If they are going to settle for BRT, at least make it like these newer ones in China. They look just like light rail but with no tracks. METRO should replace the uptown line with these also. 2 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilcal Posted July 10, 2021 Share Posted July 10, 2021 If you don't like looking at the aesthetics of seeing wheels then maybe just close your eyes while you wait for it? 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_cuevas713 Posted July 10, 2021 Share Posted July 10, 2021 (edited) On 7/8/2021 at 12:08 PM, citykid09 said: I hate BRT in cities like Houston. I feel like a metro area of 7+ million people should strive for something more significant. If they are going to settle for BRT, at least make it like these newer ones in China. They look just like light rail but with no tracks. METRO should replace the uptown line with these also. When I took the bus in SF and before that Seattle, I cared less about what type of transit it was and more about how effective it got me to my general location. I didn't use the subway or light rail in SF because I had no reason to. It was mostly buses running on overhead wires. I think having these BRT routes running on overhead wires would really help embed it as a transit line and aesthetically it's pleasing and subconsciously tells motorists to slow down. Just my opinion. In either case it's really more about a feeling than a type when it comes to transit. If I feel I can get somewhere with little effort, then I really don't care. Plus the infrastructure around the BRT lines will be upgraded, enhancing the ability to walk to a transit stop. Once we see these routes running city wide, I think we'll learn to utilize it and appreciate it a bit more. The fact it's dedicated, effective, clean transit is what matters. Edited July 10, 2021 by j_cuevas713 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samagon Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 as long as it has dedicated ROW, and priority at signals to ensure it stays on schedule, I don't mind so much what it looks like. as far as traffic calming, the looks of the public transit has less to do with it, and it's more down to the size of lanes, and things that might force a driver to stay alert. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naviguessor Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 Agree with samagon, provided that streets/lane-ways are kept to a higher standard of maintenance and repair, then the rest of our third-world surfaces. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Some one Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 My only concern with BRT is the possibility that the buses might get too busy, especially on the University or Inner Katy corridor. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Houston19514 Posted July 14, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 14, 2021 8 hours ago, Some one said: My only concern with BRT is the possibility that the buses might get too busy, especially on the University or Inner Katy corridor. That would be an amazing problem to have. Let's hope for it. 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
astros148 Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 (edited) https://mobile.twitter.com/SecretaryPete/status/1415053476284047362 Every other democratic congressman are getting all their local cities massive train and public transit expansion wtf is lizzie doing ?!?! With the massive trillion dollar infrastructure bill (which this nation needed a decade ago) upcoming she should be using all her leverage to fund all metro projects. I've spoken to her office and I ask you guys to also. We really have a once in a generational opportunity to transform the public transit in Houston. We're not talking about expanded bus lines and other bs. True change and the money is there Edited July 15, 2021 by astros148 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_cuevas713 Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 (edited) 6 hours ago, astros148 said: https://mobile.twitter.com/SecretaryPete/status/1415053476284047362 Every other democratic congressman are getting all their local cities massive train and public transit expansion wtf is lizzie doing ?!?! With the massive trillion dollar infrastructure bill (which this nation needed a decade ago) upcoming she should be using all her leverage to fund all metro projects. I've spoken to her office and I ask you guys to also. We really have a once in a generational opportunity to transform the public transit in Houston. I was just about to ask how much do we think Houston will get. Who knows what Lizzie has already accomplished so far. I did see this tho a couple of weeks ago https://fletcher.house.gov/news/documentsingle.aspx?DocumentID=3276 Edited July 15, 2021 by j_cuevas713 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
astros148 Posted July 15, 2021 Share Posted July 15, 2021 (edited) 5 hours ago, j_cuevas713 said: I was just about to ask how much do we think Houston will get. Who knows what Lizzie has already accomplished so fa. I did see this tho a couple of weeks ago https://fletcher.house.gov/news/documentsingle.aspx?DocumentID=3276 The next bill will the massive infrastructure and next generation stuff. Congress will spend a total of 100-200b on public transit/trains/commuter. She needs to holdout for atleast a billion for metro in all together at minimum. I don't know why metro and others aren't lobbying her more. I spoke with her chief of staff they told me she's aware of metro rail expansion and is working with metro. Let's see honestly but with her vote meaning so much ( 5 seat majority in the house) she needs to demand for lots of $$$$. I've donated a decent amount to her in her campaign and she needs to be aware of the situation. Now that earmarks are back in congress let's get some damn money flowing and rebuild our public transit for truly next generation. Congress is never going to ever pass this sort of funding again in our lifetime and she needs to leverage her vote for some truly historic investments. (Not talking politics keeping it strictly bout infrastructure) We need to hold our elected officials accountable bottom line. I urge everyone here to contact her office and demand that she brings us more than bus lines. Grassroots and pressure works. I've had numerous friends and others call her also. Edited July 15, 2021 by astros148 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HouTXRanger Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 On 7/13/2021 at 11:41 PM, Some one said: My only concern with BRT is the possibility that the buses might get too busy, especially on the University or Inner Katy corridor. I can pretty much guarantee that the University BRT will be one of the busiest lines in the city within a few years, especially if the commuter bus system gets reworked. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Some one Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 On 7/14/2021 at 7:45 AM, Houston19514 said: That would be an amazing problem to have. Let's hope for it. On 7/16/2021 at 12:26 PM, HouTXRanger said: I can pretty much guarantee that the University BRT will be one of the busiest lines in the city within a few years, especially if the commuter bus system gets reworked. While I do agree that the bus lines being busy is great, what I meant is that the buses might exceed their capacity, which could become a huge problem in the near future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_cuevas713 Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 1 hour ago, Some one said: While I do agree that the bus lines being busy is great, what I meant is that the buses might exceed their capacity, which could become a huge problem in the near future. Yeah probably which means they’ll either need more buses or the case for rail will eventually be made. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samagon Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 On 7/18/2021 at 12:23 AM, Some one said: While I do agree that the bus lines being busy is great, what I meant is that the buses might exceed their capacity, which could become a huge problem in the near future. I would assume that when the busses start getting within a percentage of target capacity on an average over time they will consider the options to add capacity. it's not like, one day they will have 10 people on a bus, then the next day, boom, 100 people in line. and anyway, I think the capacity that they shoot for is well within the maximum limits of the ride vehicles. when you see them actually pack a bus at rodeo, the number of people they let in makes you think it must be a clown car. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_cuevas713 Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 (edited) Why not start on the University line and wait on the Inner Katy while we see whats going to happen with the NHHIP? 2025 seems like forever away https://communityimpact.com/houston/heights-river-oaks-montrose/transportation/2021/07/28/metro-officials-have-high-hopes-for-connectivity-of-planned-university-rapid-bus-line/?type=article&utm_source=newsletter&utm_campaign=newsletter_article&fbclid=iwar2hhdxoagb9m09jxt4z1_l82puvbxuhstnsxmdif5w_13_nb3brgj5qsbm Edited July 30, 2021 by j_cuevas713 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilcal Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 And it is only a portion of the University line :( 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houston19514 Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 1 hour ago, wilcal said: And it is only a portion of the University line :( I don't think it's for only a portion. I think all segments of the University Line BRT are on the same schedule. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X.R. Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 1 hour ago, Houston19514 said: I don't think it's for only a portion. I think all segments of the University Line BRT are on the same schedule. Yeah the way I read it is the same as @Houston19514 . It sounds like the enviro studies and pre-construction stuff for the whole line is under-way and construction on the thing as a whole doesn't begin until 2025. At this particular meeting however, they chose to focus on that certain piece. If they are doing BRT the same way they did BRT in Uptown, then I can see how this can be a long term project requiring crazy amount of prep. I mean Uptown BRT came with sidewalks with trees and lights and the median is full of trees and each stop has a nice shelter area and some LCDs. I think Uptown helped with a lot of that (someone correct me please) so even if it doesn't come with the sidewalks and stuff, and its just the median, I mean, that's still a massive project that I'm sure requires a lot to be prepped. Who knows, maybe they are also waiting for each TIRZ/neighborhood this thing goes through to get their plans in order so they can do a Uptown-type pedestrian experience for each place it goes through. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilcal Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 17 hours ago, Houston19514 said: I don't think it's for only a portion. I think all segments of the University Line BRT are on the same schedule. 14 hours ago, X.R. said: Yeah the way I read it is the same as @Houston19514 . It sounds like the enviro studies and pre-construction stuff for the whole line is under-way and construction on the thing as a whole doesn't begin until 2025. At this particular meeting however, they chose to focus on that certain piece. If they are doing BRT the same way they did BRT in Uptown, then I can see how this can be a long term project requiring crazy amount of prep. I mean Uptown BRT came with sidewalks with trees and lights and the median is full of trees and each stop has a nice shelter area and some LCDs. I think Uptown helped with a lot of that (someone correct me please) so even if it doesn't come with the sidewalks and stuff, and its just the median, I mean, that's still a massive project that I'm sure requires a lot to be prepped. Who knows, maybe they are also waiting for each TIRZ/neighborhood this thing goes through to get their plans in order so they can do a Uptown-type pedestrian experience for each place it goes through. From this article: https://www.houstonchronicle.com/news/houston-texas/transportation/article/Hoping-for-federal-funds-Metro-trying-to-move-16200166.php Quote It is the second and third segments Metro officials believe they can accelerate, along with a small stretch westward to the Hillcroft Transit Center, based on previous efforts that never passed the design stages. They are basically fast-forwarding this portion to try to get federal $$$ 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houston19514 Posted August 5, 2021 Share Posted August 5, 2021 (edited) On 7/31/2021 at 8:10 AM, wilcal said: From this article: https://www.houstonchronicle.com/news/houston-texas/transportation/article/Hoping-for-federal-funds-Metro-trying-to-move-16200166.php They are basically fast-forwarding this portion to try to get federal $$$ That's the danger of relying on the Chronicle... From looking at the Metro board presentations and listening to their meetings, I get no indication that they plan to move those segments ahead of the others or on any different schedule. They talk of leveraging the work previously done on those segments to accelerate the schedule in order to position the entire project for federal funding sooner rather than later. Edited August 5, 2021 by Houston19514 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Welling Posted August 16, 2021 Share Posted August 16, 2021 Inner Katy BRT Virtual Meeting tonight (8/16) at 5pm. I am not sure if there is an actual video presentation, or if you just walk through the powerpoint on your own. There is a place to leave comments though. Here is the link: https://www.ridemetro.org/Pages/METRORapid-Inner-Katy.aspx Click "upcoming events", and then you'll see the meeting. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texasota Posted August 16, 2021 Share Posted August 16, 2021 Ooooh, renderings of all the potential station locations: METRORapid-Inner-Katy-Station-Workshop-Presentation-080321.pdf (ridemetro.org) I would really like to see more stations than previously proposed. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_cuevas713 Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 (edited) Wow this is going to be great. Once this and the Richmond Ave BRT are built, I’m going to use my car even less than I do now. The stations look great! Edited August 17, 2021 by j_cuevas713 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BEES?! Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 (edited) The self-guided virtual meeting is online now. You can submit comments until 11:59 pm on 8/31. Here is the link I was really happy to see all the new stations being taken into consideration, and REALLY excited to see the proposed Franklin station- very smart of them to tie it into Amtrak/POST. I wonder if someone at POST/Downtown tossed their hat into the ring on that one? If so, that’s pretty brilliant, especially with the future extension to the HSR station, connectedness to Uptown, that will all really help that project. Edited August 17, 2021 by BEES?! 3 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nate4l1f3 Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 1 hour ago, BEES?! said: The self-guided virtual meeting is online now. You can submit comments until 11:59 pm on 8/31. Here is the link I was really happy to see all the new stations being taken into consideration, and REALLY excited to see the proposed Franklin station- very smart of them to tie it into Amtrak/POST. I wonder if someone at POST/Downtown tossed their hat into the ring on that one? If so, that’s pretty brilliant, especially with the future extension to the HSR station, connectedness to Uptown, that will all really help that project. The Aquarium within walking distance of the station as well. Whatever happened the the Aquarium expansion into that empty lot? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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