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Yale St. Post Office Being Converted to Mixed-Use Development

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I have seen some old folks at this location using the post office boxes.  I assume that they are walking over from the nearby senior apartments.  It would be an inconvenience for them.  But that is the only reason I could think of to advocate for keeping it.  It is the worst post office in the world and a blight on Heights Blvd.  And it would be a great redevelopment opportunity with the new little retail strip on the northwest side of the intersection and the available old gas station across Yale St.

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The alternative PO has many disadvantages in its current state.

 

 

I would have to assume that they intend to upgrade the 18th St. facility in Shady Acres if they intend to consolidate retail services from the Yale St. location.  They will make good money selling the property on Yale St. and can make upgrades to 18th and still have money in the bank afterwards.

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Hopefully they'd also dole a little of that fundage towards the Anson Jones station on Cavalcade. Very small station that serves Monte Beach, The Heights, Norhill, etc. It, too, needs some upgraded facilities.

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So, there was a meeting yesterday with the rep from the USPS and community members.  The 19th st. post office has excess space and is currently underutilized.  It sounds like they would build out retail space there if they close Yale St.  USPS said they will make the consolidation unless it can be shown that the move would not save money or would be more costly than the status quo.  It does not sound like the USPS is going to be at all receptive to complaints about convenience due to their dire economic situation.  Given that the sale of the property would probably generate about 10x the funds needed to build out a retail counter and PO boxes at the 19th street center, it sounds like this is probably a done deal.

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http://swamplot.com/this-could-be-the-end-of-the-heights-post-office/2014-09-18/

 

I have seen some old folks at this location using the post office boxes.  I assume that they are walking over from the nearby senior apartments.  It would be an inconvenience for them.  But that is the only reason I could think of to advocate for keeping it.  It is the worst post office in the world and a blight on Heights Blvd.  And it would be a great redevelopment opportunity with the new little retail strip on the northwest side of the intersection and the available old gas station across Yale St.

 

Really, tear it down and put in retail space?  This is in the heart of residential properties.  You pissed and moaned about WalMart and it was a vacant field and had no impact on residential properties.

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Really, tear it down and put in retail space?  This is in the heart of residential properties.  You pissed and moaned about WalMart and it was a vacant field and had no impact on residential properties.

 

 

Walmart is >150k s.f. under roof.  The entire USPS property is less than 50k s.f.

 

All four corners of Yale & 11th are non-residential, as are most of 11th from Durham to Studewood and much of Yale from I-10 to 610. This is a more appropriate site for retail than it would be for residential.  I'm not sure I'd want to buy a single family house on that corner.

 

It's not zoned either way, so whoever buys it can decide what to do with it, but I'd guess that "highest-and-best use" (as economists say) would be either multi-family or some sort of retail or commercial use.

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Really, tear it down and put in retail space?  This is in the heart of residential properties.  You pissed and moaned about WalMart and it was a vacant field and had no impact on residential properties.

 

The issue with Walmart wasn't whether it was retail or not.  That is such a grotesque oversimplification of that debate that it is pretty much impossible to respond to the attempted argument.

 

Retail at that spot would be ideal.  As previously noted, this is at one of the busiest intersections in the Heights.  Across 11th st. is the strip center with Lola and an additional 3,000 sq ft of retail is currently under construction on the NW corner of Heights and 11th.  On the other side of Yale St. is a gas station (closed and on the market) and a dry cleaner.  There is a chiro office on the SE corner of Heights and 11th with Boulevard Coffee a few doors down on Heights (at least for the next few days). 

 

That intersection is busy both with vehicles and pedestrian traffic and is pretty much the mid point of the Heights, meaning that it is close to a lot of residents.  A casual restaurant could do a good business from breakfast to dinner at that location, especially considering that there will be an additional 700 new units of apartments a few blocks down the street.  What we do not need is another Shady Acres-esque town home cluster or a Fisherville mid-rise. 

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Retail at that spot would be ideal.  As previously noted, this is at one of the busiest intersections in the Heights.  Across 11th st. is the strip center with Lola and an additional 3,000 sq ft of retail is currently under construction on the NW corner of Heights and 11th.  On the other side of Yale St. is a gas station (closed and on the market) and a dry cleaner.  There is a chiro office on the SE corner of Heights and 11th with Boulevard Coffee a few doors down on Heights (at least for the next few days). 

 

That intersection is busy both with vehicles and pedestrian traffic and is pretty much the mid point of the Heights, meaning that it is close to a lot of residents.  A casual restaurant could do a good business from breakfast to dinner at that location, especially considering that there will be an additional 700 new units of apartments a few blocks down the street.  What we do not need is another Shady Acres-esque town home cluster or a Fisherville mid-rise. 

 

As you stated, "this is one of the busiest intersections in The Heights" which is exactly why I am opposed to more retail.  They already took away 1 lane in each direction on Heights Blvd. for bicyclists that refuse to obey traffic laws.

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As you stated, "this is one of the busiest intersections in The Heights" which is exactly why I am opposed to more retail.  They already took away 1 lane in each direction on Heights Blvd. for bicyclists that refuse to obey traffic laws.

 

So, you are concerned about traffic impacts.  Fair enough.  But where were you when everyone was protesting Walmart?

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So, you are concerned about traffic impacts.  Fair enough.  But where were you when everyone was protesting Walmart?

 

 

Supporting it 100%.

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So, you are concerned about traffic impacts.  Fair enough.  But where were you when everyone was protesting Walmart?

Everyone? Overstate much?

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Supporting it 100%.

 

Never mind.  I did not expect you to get the irony that you are against retail in one place due to potential traffic impact but are 100% for it in another place with no regard for traffic impact.

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Another retail spot would be better than those ugly condo/townhomes that are going up on Yale. This intersection hasnt always been this busy but it has always been a !!!!! to cross. Ive seen many accidents and near accidents here. Unfortunatly, with the recent growth in HH, Im afraid most intersections off Yale will be just as bad. We have a lot of folks that cut thru our neighborhood to get to 610.

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Never mind.  I did not expect you to get the irony that you are against retail in one place due to potential traffic impact but are 100% for it in another place with no regard for traffic impact.

The only thing the Walmart site and the Post Office site have in common is proximity. Otherwise it is apples and oranges. 

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The only thing the Walmart site and the Post Office site have in common is proximity. Otherwise it is apples and oranges. 

 

Exactly.  That is why it is so silly for Heightsplus20 to call me out for opposing one but supporting the other.  Thanks for driving my point home.

 

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Exactly.  That is why it is so silly for Heightsplus20 to call me out for opposing one but supporting the other.  Thanks for driving my point home.

 

 

WalMart was built where there was NO, and I mean absolutely NO residential or traffic impact.  It was a frigging ABANDONED business that had been there for years and traffic was never an issue until the bicycle lane was put in on Heights Blvd. that supposedly had a traffic impact study completed which stated there would be no impact.

 

Many traffic IMPROVEMENTS were made due to WalMart.  One major improvement is that there is now an exit to Yale and Heights from I10 East.  There is no need to go all the way to Studewood.

 

Sorry for the caps and bolding, but you seem to have issues with comprehending what people say if you are not in agreement.

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Exactly.  That is why it is so silly for Heightsplus20 to call me out for opposing one but supporting the other.  Thanks for driving my point home.

 

I didn't see where Heightsplus20 did that. Must have missed something.

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Sorry, Heights20, the Walmart was built there because of the exit from I10, not the other way around. 

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Sorry, Heights20, the Walmart was built there because of the exit from I10, not the other way around. 

 

The exit did not exist prior to WalMart being built.

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HAHA!  Everything that now exists that did not exist before the Walmart was built is caused by the Walmart being built.  Who knew?

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The exit was built as a result of the gvt wanting "shovel-ready" projects to help the economy.  If the exit had not been built, neither would the Walmart. 

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HAHA!  Everything that now exists that did not exist before the Walmart was built is caused by the Walmart being built.  Who knew?

 

 

Pretty much so, much like the changes to the feeder road down by Target.

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