sevfiv Posted April 28, 2006 Share Posted April 28, 2006 http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/chronicle/3827412.htmlUnder the legislation, police will not penalize people for possessing up to 5 grams of marijuana, 5 grams of opium, 25 milligrams of heroin or 500 milligrams of cocaine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orikal Posted April 28, 2006 Share Posted April 28, 2006 "The object of this law is to not put consumers in jail, but rather those who sell and poison," said Sen. Jorge Zermeno of the ruling National Action Party.I'm all for it. Although, I understand this will increase the capacity to catch the dealers, but on the same hand, wouldn't this just increase the dealer's market? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ V Lawrence Posted April 28, 2006 Share Posted April 28, 2006 I'm all for it. Although, I understand this will increase the capacity to catch the dealers, but on the same hand, wouldn't this just increase the dealer's market? So, um, this wouldn't stop somebody there from growing it for themself to light up, right?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Posted April 28, 2006 Share Posted April 28, 2006 Viva la Mexico! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wendyps Posted April 28, 2006 Share Posted April 28, 2006 haha! the accompanying byline should read...millions of illegal emigrants (hippy but happy) expected in the coming weeks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedScare Posted April 28, 2006 Share Posted April 28, 2006 This could cause a reverse border rush by stoned Americans. BTW, I'm not good with math. Would this be less than 5 grams? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Posted April 28, 2006 Share Posted April 28, 2006 This could cause a reverse border rush by stoned Americans. BTW, I'm not good with math. Would this be less than 5 grams? Yeah your math needs a little work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJones Posted April 28, 2006 Share Posted April 28, 2006 Gotta find me a similar HAR website in Mejico, PRONTO ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Original Timmy Chan's Posted April 29, 2006 Share Posted April 29, 2006 I'm all for it. Although, I understand this will increase the capacity to catch the dealers, but on the same hand, wouldn't this just increase the dealer's market?Your question is, are people going to start smoking weed just because it's legal?I don't think they will...I think those who want to smoke dope already do so, regardless of its legal status. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bachanon Posted April 29, 2006 Share Posted April 29, 2006 IMO, it will decrease the amount of resources spent on your average joe who has no ill will towards others and wants to get a buzz. it remains to be seen if it will increase public intoxication rates. spring break and vacationing in mexico will take on a whole new meaning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heights_yankee Posted April 29, 2006 Share Posted April 29, 2006 Your question is, are people going to start smoking weed just because it's legal?I don't think they will...I think those who want to smoke dope already do so, regardless of its legal status. I agree. I mean, I don't use cocaine. I'm not going to start carrying around a few milligrams of it just because I can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cabanaboy Posted April 29, 2006 Share Posted April 29, 2006 I agree. I mean, I don't use cocaine. I'm not going to start carrying around a few milligrams of it just because I can. I am glad to hear this as I often carry 5 grams of opium on my person when in Mexico. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbigtex56 Posted April 29, 2006 Share Posted April 29, 2006 I am glad to hear this as I often carry 5 grams of opium on my person when in Mexico. But he's not saying where... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarthaG Posted April 29, 2006 Share Posted April 29, 2006 haha! the accompanying byline should read...millions of illegal emigrants (hippy but happy) expected in the coming weeks Yep... packing my bags now and heading for the boarder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sevfiv Posted May 3, 2006 Author Share Posted May 3, 2006 http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/chronicle/3836230.htmlOn Friday, San Diego Mayor Jerry Sanders said he was appalled by the bill."I certainly think we are going to see more drugs available in the United States," Sanders said. "We need to register every protest the American government can muster." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parrothead Posted May 3, 2006 Share Posted May 3, 2006 I agree with Sanders--this is going to make much more trouble for the U.S.--all the more reason to seal our border to Mexico."The object of this law is to not put consumers in jail, but rather those who sell and poison," said Sen. Jorge Zermeno of the ruling National Action Party.That is the dumbest thing I have ever heard! It makes no sense! Where does Senator Zermeno think "consumers" are going to be getting this stuff from? America? Not if it's as cheap as it's about to be in Mexico! Love the logic there... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeebus Posted May 3, 2006 Share Posted May 3, 2006 That is the dumbest thing I have ever heard! It makes no sense! Where does Senator Zermeno think "consumers" are going to be getting this stuff from? America? Not if it's as cheap as it's about to be in Mexico! Love the logic there...You really don't think before you speak do you? I'll essssssplain it to you Lucy: Legalized drugs simply mean that law enforcement can focus on dealers & not buyers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parrothead Posted May 3, 2006 Share Posted May 3, 2006 Excuse me? Yeah, uh...I most certainly think before I speak. This sounds like more of a problem on your part. Apparently you can't read. We are talking about Mexican criminals here--like they give a rat's ass about this! It doesn't affect them in the least. They are already breaking the law--decriminalizing small amounts of pot and coke isn't going to change that at all. All this is going to do is send people from the US down to buy drugs to sell here on our soil. If you're so smart, Ricky , why don't you tell me how decriminalizing pot and coke is going to make any difference at all in their crackdowns? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedScare Posted May 3, 2006 Share Posted May 3, 2006 All this is going to do is send people from the US down to buy drugs to sell here on our soil. Oh, no! I hope that doesn't start happening! This is such a nice little country. If people start going to Mexico to get drugs to sell here, it will ruin EVERYTHING! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJones Posted May 3, 2006 Share Posted May 3, 2006 Oh, no! I hope that doesn't start happening! This is such a nice little country. If people start going to Mexico to get drugs to sell here, it will ruin EVERYTHING! That sarcasm is sooooo thick, I need a chainsaw ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeebus Posted May 3, 2006 Share Posted May 3, 2006 If you're so smart, Ricky , why don't you tell me how decriminalizing pot and coke is going to make any difference at all in their crackdowns?Because now instead of wasting time, manpower, & money to run stings to catch buyers (by posing as sellers) they can focus ALL their time, manpower, & money strictly on the sellers.By legalizing the posession of drugs you eliminate over half of the criminal element you were pursuing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
713 To 214 Posted May 4, 2006 Share Posted May 4, 2006 Who wants to bet that this will lead to the de-criminalization of these drugs (at least marijuana) in this country w/in the next 5 - 10 years? Now that our neighbors to the North and South have de-criminalized posession to a certain degree, we'll be squeezed into doing the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parrothead Posted May 4, 2006 Share Posted May 4, 2006 Red...not really your best material. Jeebus, the people who have 5 or 10 grams of pot in their pocket are not really the "criminal" element. Oh, whoopie, they passed a law that actually enables their cops to sit on their ass and not arrest anyone smoking a bowl...how is that different from before? Words on paper, my friend. The real problem is, and has always been, the big-time dealers. Since they're paying off the government, they won't get touched. This is horsecrap that, like 713 mentioned, will most likely bring about forced compliance in this country, and you know what that will say about us? That we're a bunch of pu*sies in this country. Oh wait--we already say that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedScare Posted May 4, 2006 Share Posted May 4, 2006 Red...not really your best material. Jeebus, the people who have 5 or 10 grams of pot in their pocket are not really the "criminal" element. Oh, whoopie, they passed a law that actually enables their cops to sit on their ass and not arrest anyone smoking a bowl...how is that different from before? Words on paper, my friend. The real problem is, and has always been, the big-time dealers. Since they're paying off the government, they won't get touched. This is horsecrap that, like 713 mentioned, will most likely bring about forced compliance in this country, and you know what that will say about us? That we're a bunch of pu*sies in this country. Oh wait--we already say that. Yes, after the Nazi/Governor post, I kind of had a letdown. Actually, though the Mexican government does not publicize it, part of the reason for legalization is to fight corruption. Mexico's cops are well known for shaking down small time users for cash. By legalizing small amounts, the cops lose the ability for shakedowns. By not wasting time on the large number of consumers, they will also have more manpower for the dealers. That would also apply in this country. Our cops waste more time on miniscule amounts of dope than any other "crime". We waste massive amounts of jail space on them also. Legalization would conserve resources and lower violent crime committed by dealers, as well as users who need money for dope. Maybe we could even use the money we save to protect the borders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest danax Posted May 4, 2006 Share Posted May 4, 2006 Who wants to bet that this will lead to the de-criminalization of these drugs (at least marijuana) in this country w/in the next 5 - 10 years? Now that our neighbors to the North and South have de-criminalized posession to a certain degree, we'll be squeezed into doing the same.I applaud the Mexicans if this is truly a noble experiment. It will be interesting to see if this creates more addicts or not. No one has really experimented with the decriminalization of hard drugs before, so Mexico will be the world's guinea pig (guinea puerco). California had pot possession of less than an oz. a ticketable offense in the 70s and I don't remember there being any difference as to who smoked and who didn't.I had the thought that this would soften the market for those drugs in Mexico and so force more into the US, but that might not be the case. The growers and dealers would still have to operate illegally so their risk factor and overhead would be the same, and the demand would too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeebus Posted May 4, 2006 Share Posted May 4, 2006 This is horsecrap that, like 713 mentioned, will most likely bring about forced compliance in this country, and you know what that will say about us? That we're a bunch of pu*sies in this country.So if America finally comes to its senses and legalizes pot, you think the world will look at us like a bunch of pansies? How warped is that line of thought? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sevfiv Posted May 5, 2006 Author Share Posted May 5, 2006 http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/4971416.stmPresident Vicente Fox has returned the measure to Congress, saying it should make clear that possessing and using drugs will remain a criminal offence.Mr Fox has been accused in the Mexican media of bowing to US pressure.US officials had voiced concern that more lenient policies in Mexico could lead to a wave of drugs-related tourism across the border. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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